Anti human spirituality

[Mmartinez28]

@Breakingthewall hey I’m new to this forum, just wondering the only primary foundational absolute truths insights are the enlightenment insights presented in the many facets of awakening enlightenment video of Leo Gura right? Any other views on consciousness not presented on the facets of awakening insights is not considered absolute truth primary foundational insight ? The view that you can zoom forever in consciousness is considered a view not considered primary foundational absolute truth insight? Leo Gura said that I’m not conscious of certain views on consciousness like zooming forever does that necessarily mean that I’m not conscious of the views as being absolute truth? 

Edited 4 hours ago by Mmartinez28

[Wilhelm44]

34 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

There are many people who have a broken psychological structure. For example, me. As I see it, this is caused, among other things, by weak parents. Weak parents can be narcissistic, addicted, abusive, suicidal, depressed, etc. When this is your reality, your psyche automatically covers this up in order to survive as a functioning human. This is the main objective of the psyche when it's forming. Once this structure solidifies, it constantly vibrates with an anxious vibration, since it's not aligned with reality. This is massive today. There are countless approaches to fix, improve, and ease this constant suffering, but in my experience, nothing really works. Because once your structure is broken at the core of your psyche, there is a lack. This is dangerous; it can lead to toxic relationships, addictions, and general misery, even to hellish levels.

In my experience, there is only one real solution: the complete rupture of your psychological structure and its opening to your total nature. Once opened, it progressively restructures itself, changing completely. It's not something subtle or light, but total. A progressive equalization begins, an alignment of your structural lines with the flow of reality, becoming more and more precise, which progressively decreases anxiety and opens your perspective without limits

Yes, we internalized the ways we were treated as children in order to survive, and replay those traumas in various situations today, not only because those unprocessed emotions are still stuck in the nervous system, but also because we unknowingly associate the shitty ways we were treated with love.

I liked the way you described the only real solution, thank you.

 

[SOUL]

15 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

This is the objective of real spirituality. 

Again that is YOUR objective of spirituality and it isn't the only spirituality that can be.

Mine isn't as concerned with analyzing abstractions, I just be present. The only time I even think about my 'spirituality' is when I would try to explain it to someone else, like on here. Otherwise, it's simple. I don't give it much thought unless something arises on it's own from the subconscious and then I just watch it pass on by. Years of doing that has my subconscious a pretty quiet creature, too. It just chills.

You seem to think that having an intricate belief structure that explains every perception in excruciating complication is the only way to express spirituality.  Then going out into the world pushing your perception of spirituality onto others and calling other people's perception that doesn't match your own 'wrong'. Kinda weird.

I know this forum is filled with lots of people doing it, this doesn't make it 'right' and others 'wrong'. It isn't the only way...no matter how much you want it to be.

[Breakingthewall]

18 minutes ago, SOUL said:

Again that is YOUR objective of spirituality and it isn't the only spirituality that can be.

Mine isn't as concerned with analyzing abstractions, I just be present. The only time I even think about my 'spirituality' is when I would try to explain it to someone else, like on here. Otherwise, it's simple. I don't give it much thought unless something arises on it's own from the subconscious and then I just watch it pass on by. Years of doing that has my subconscious a pretty quiet creature, too. It just chills.

You seem to think that having an intricate belief structure that explains every perception in excruciating complication is the only way to express spirituality.  Then going out into the world pushing your perception of spirituality onto others and calling other people's perception that doesn't match your own 'wrong'. Kinda weird.

I know this forum is filled with lots of people doing it, this doesn't make it 'right' and others 'wrong'. It isn't the only way...no matter how much you want it to be.

Maybe I didn't explain well, Let me put it this way: the goal of spirituality is to break through our limited perspective and exist in an unlimited one. When I say an approach is wrong, it's when it claims its perspective is unlimited when it's limited.

[Breakingthewall]

38 minutes ago, Mmartinez28 said:

@Breakingthewall hey I’m new to this forum, just wondering the only primary foundational absolute truths insights are the enlightenment insights presented in the many facets of awakening enlightenment video of Leo Gura right? Any other views on consciousness not presented on the facets of awakening insights is not considered absolute truth primary foundational insight ? The view that you can zoom forever in consciousness is considered a view not considered primary foundational absolute truth insight? 

From my perspective there are only two possibilities: limited or unlimited. This doesn't mean that if you break through the limitation and constantly operate without limits, you're a Buddha or something like that. It means that you perceive yourself without limits, as flow and as essence. "Perceiving" is the same as "being", since there are no limits between one and the other. You clearly understand your immortality, since it's absolutely impossible for there to be a limit like death. From this perspective, your perception of everything graduallychanges , becoming fluid and no longer static. You start perceiving the synchronicity in everything. This is how I see it. I suppose there are other ways of seeing it

Edited 4 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Mmartinez28]

@Breakingthewall I don’t understand all I was asking if the only absolute truths insights were in his video the many facets of awakening enlightenment. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Mmartinez28 said:

@Breakingthewall I don’t understand all I was asking if the only absolute truths insights were in his video the many facets of awakening enlightenment. 

I don't remember. I guess that they could be infinite facets of anything