The craziest things happened when I drank ayahusca

[Flowerfaeiry]

24 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

What is an enemy for the one who is everything? 

 

Are you claiming Jesus is everything? This is getting into tricky territory for this forum  

 

27 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

The thing is people have all sorts of funny associations with Jesus, including me. Christianity is a deeply corrupt religion and it is a religion that encourages group think and blind faith. Many people who follow Jesus don’t care about truth. Jesus the saint and of course his teachings are fine. If you are experiencing only positives and benefits from studying what Jesus teaches then that is a good thing. Many people turn it into a dogma though. Anyways good for you and hope you have more helpful trips. 

Agree 100%!! It’s a big mess to be honest. Oh and I won’t be tripping anymore. I’m full on born again repented from my sins kind of thing. It’s pretty crazy what Jesus convicted me of. 
 

20 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

Leo has a lot of young men that follow him and look up to him. I really enjoy reading what Leo has to say here sometimes cause he’s a good writer and an interesting guy. But I definitely do not agree with many things he says and don’t condone his spiritual path for everyone. My path is very different from his. But it’s to be expected. You are basically at the house of Leo right now, it’s his website so you get his biggest fanatics and likeminded folk.

Dude Leo is absolutely onto something really good and he deserves mad respect, but he misses the mark on a few pretty big things imo. 
 

Also to the person who hid their comment. I’m talking about Jesus Christ. You know who that is otherwise you wouldn’t be talking like that…

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

Are you claiming Jesus is everything? This is getting into tricky territory for this forum  

Everything includes Jesus. 

[Flowerfaeiry]

8 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Everything includes Jesus. 

Jesus is not the devil. But again I’m not gonna get too much into that particular kinda talk on this forum 🙃

[Salvijus]

@Flowerfaeiry ok

Amen

[UnbornTao]

4 hours ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

Spirits are unseen beings. I mean THE Jesus.. the most high being in all of the realms that exist. 

That doesn't say much.

Where are those beings? What do you mean by unseen?

Didn't Jesus say that basically he's just a dude and that we are not separate from him?

And what realms are there? Would it make a difference to vocalize 'Yeshua' instead of Jesus?

And who's the one benefiting from that story? Do you realize what your being is?

Edited Sunday at 12:54 AM by UnbornTao

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

If one is to be really skeptical, one cannot think in terms of one being more likely than the other.

From a completely blank state, both are equally probable.

Jesus may be as uneral as an unicorn, from your perspective. So is Leo turning into a Grey alien.

But I'm not skeptical. Ultimate skepticism is just intellectual laziness.

Edited Saturday at 10:05 PM by Carl-Richard

[Scholar]

17 hours ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

Hi. Some of you know me, some don’t. It’s been a wild ride 😅 But anyway, JESUS revealed himself to me like in a really radical way. I abandoned new age and now I’m a Jesus freak.

 

Ok but what about the ayahuasca…? Well…it is intimately tied into my revelation about Jesus. You can watch me talk about it a little on my YouTube channel. The link is in my Instagram bio. But basically ayahuasca opened me up to the spirit world and all these energies. I became highly sensitive and in tune with spirits. Both good and evil. You might be rolling your eyes right now. Try to be open minded. 

The evil spirits showed me parts of myself that were broken, but in a malicious way. Being in tune with energies taught me about the world in a new, deep way. I tried protecting myself against the bad spirits through all sorts of spiritual protection methods because they were intense, and it became hard for me to function, overtaking my senses. 
 

I talk about this more in my video but long story short I kept trying things but the name of JESUS was the one thing that fended off the bad spirits more than anything else, I became more curious about him because of that and then one day I just got saved. Like I was literally a new creation just like how they talk about in the Bible. 
 

Make sense of that. Anyway that’s all for now. 

The evil spirits are you, your inability to accept parts of yourself. Their evil is your evil, their maliciousness is your maliciousness. They are projections of your own egoic self.

Jesus is the evil one here, as he rejects parts of himself, framing them as evil, protecting yourself from yourself. It is demonic.

[Oppositionless]

I'm not sure it's wise to put Jesus on a pedestal above other realized beings. In fact, based on developmental psychology , modern masters should have a more integrated , deeper level of awakening .

also if we believe the Gospels contain the literal words of Jesus, he said a lot of problematic things .

 

If Jesus really performed any of the miracles in the gospels, to me that just means he had a whole lot of Shakti, not that he was the most realized being of all time.

Edited Saturday at 11:18 PM by Oppositionless

[Carl-Richard]

31 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

I'm not sure it's wise to put Jesus on a pedestal above other realized beings. In fact, based on developmental psychology , modern masters should have a more integrated , deeper level of awakening .

You gotta distinguish awakened masters from saints. If Sadhguru is the genetic equivalent of Ronnie Coleman, Jesus is the genetic equivalent of the top 10 of all the Ronnie Colemans that existed for the last 30 000 years.

Edited Saturday at 11:47 PM by Carl-Richard

[Eskilon]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

But I'm not skeptical. Ultimate skepticism is just intellectual laziness.

This is false. Ultimate skepticism is real sensemaking. 

[Carl-Richard]

4 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

This is false. Ultimate skepticism is real sensemaking. 

Ultimate skepticism is "meh we can't know anything so what is the difference?". Pragmatism is when you take the step out of Peter Pan land and into the harsh reality and ask "what is the best bet?".

Edited Saturday at 11:43 PM by Carl-Richard

[Flowerfaeiry]

1 hour ago, UnbornTao said:

That doesn't say much.

Where are those beings? Do they sleep? Can you step on them?

Unseen as in not perceived? Not objectively existing - imagined, perhaps?

Didn't Jesus say that basically he's just a dude and that we are not separate from him?

And what realms are there?

Would it make a difference to vocalize 'Yeshua' instead of Jesus?

And who's the one benefiting from that? Do you know what your being is?

The spiritual realm is a very real place my friend. You don’t sound open minded enough for me to try to convince you of anything right now. 

[Lyubov]

17 minutes ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

The spiritual realm is a very real place my friend. You don’t sound open minded enough for me to try to convince you of anything right now. 

So what is the point of you changing your state and going to the spirit realm? What is the benefit for you? In what way is this true for you and better for your life as opposed to before? 

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Scholar said:

The evil spirits are you, your inability to accept parts of yourself. Their evil is your evil, their maliciousness is your maliciousness. They are projections of your own egoic self.

Jesus is the evil one here, as he rejects parts of himself, framing them as evil, protecting yourself from yourself. It is demonic.

 

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The evil people are you, your inability to accept parts of yourself. Their evil is your evil, their maliciousness is your maliciousness. They are projections of your own egoic self.

Jesus is the evil one here, as he rejects parts of himself, framing them as evil, protecting yourself from yourself. It is demonic.

If this quote is not identical to the one above, I will welcome you to the crypto-materialist label as well:

 

Edited Sunday at 12:33 AM by Carl-Richard

[Oppositionless]

55 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You gotta distinguish awakened masters from saints. If Sadhguru is the genetic equivalent of Ronnie Coleman, Jesus is the genetic equivalent of the top 10 of all the Ronnie Colemans that existed for the last 30 000 years.

People had spontaneous nondual awakenings around Ramana. That to me is a more impressive "miracle" than walking on water .

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Oppositionless said:

People had spontaneous nondual awakenings around Ramana. That to me is a more impressive "miracle" than walking on water .

My brotha, Jesus created a world religion. Not to shit on Ramana, but some of the awakened beings of history are unmatched in their level of realization and embodiment.

[Oppositionless]

8 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

My brotha, Jesus created a world religion. Not to shit on Ramana, but some of the awakened beings of history are unmatched in their level of realization and embodiment.

Influence on culture isn't a sign of awakening. Jesus was the right person at the right time. 

[UnbornTao]

3 hours ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

The spiritual realm is a very real place my friend. You don’t sound open minded enough for me to try to convince you of anything right now. 

I'm saying we don't even have a clear understanding of what this "realm" is, or what self and experience actually are - let alone any real knowledge about the presumed existence of other ethereal beings. And yet, drugs can induce states where people might begin to take highly subjective experiences seriously - like believing they are all sorts of things. It doesn't help that people start calling them medicine, either. I'm not denying that such experiences may have value and power, but that doesn't make them any less invented in many cases. If your self itself is constructed, what else could be?

If you're sincere, can you say with a straight face that you know who Jesus was - what he looked like, or even what he said? Most of what we have about him is secondhand. So what are we really talking about here?

Edited Sunday at 03:25 AM by UnbornTao

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Oppositionless said:

Influence on culture isn't a sign of awakening. Jesus was the right person at the right time. 

I guess Buddha wasn't very enlightened either then...

[Oppositionless]

3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I guess Buddha wasn't very enlightened either then...

You're misrepresenting my argument . I'm not saying Jesus wasn't awakened, I'm simply saying that there are individuals equally as awakened who don't have as big of an impact due to a very complex set of cultural and historical factors .

I hope i don't sound condescending, that's something im trying to work on 

That being said, I've felt Jesus at church before , at Easter 2 years ago. So I agree there's something there.

Edited Sunday at 12:51 AM by Oppositionless