Leo's predictions about Trump are coming true

[Lyubov]

Will Trump even finish his term? 

[Inliytened1]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They are implementing Project 2025. It is aweful stuff.

WW3 it is not.

If you wanna change things around to fit your narrative, sure. 

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

If you wanna change things around to fit your narrative, sure. 

Stop acting like you are objective on this issue.

You are the one changing things around.

My position and predictions on Trump have been consistent for 10 years.

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Stop acting like you are objective on this issue.

You are the one changing things around.

My position and predictions on Trump have been consistent for 10 years.

Well..if you want to span decades then we will need decades to know of his presidency led to an improvement.  

[Oppositionless]

23 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It is not the point of politics to convince hardcore loyalists but to shift the clueless lukewarm middle.

What do you think the chances are Trump ends up in some kind of hell realm after his death?

[Inliytened1]

13 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well..if you want to span decades then we will need decades to know of his presidency led to an improvement.  

@Leo Gura you want a deep understanding of Trump.  You have more to go

He's a weird mixture. 

Edited Saturday at 11:53 PM by Inliytened1

[Inliytened1]

11 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

What do you think the chances are Trump ends up in some kind of hell realm after his death?

He's you.  So he's not going to end in a hell realm. You are haullicating him

 

[Joshe]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

He's not any worse than the democratic presidents before him.

To believe this, you have to be mired in bias or lack the ability to read people. You likely want Trump to not be as bad as he actually is because previous positions you’ve held. Which is bias. 

If you think Trump is near equal in character to most other presidents, you gotta get this fixed bro. It’s a matter of looking at things objectively. 

[Inliytened1]

@Josheno i just feel hes not any worse. 

[Oppositionless]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

He's you.  So he's not going to end in a hell realm. You are haullicating him

 

I just really want some form of justice and I don't see it happening in this life 

[Leo Gura]

@Inliytened1 Dude, I'm sorry, but your political takes are really bad and uninformed.

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Josheno i just feel hes not any worse. 

Come on. Just consider the amount of lies he spouts, for example. 

Edited Sunday at 01:53 AM by UnbornTao

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Come on. Just consider the amount of lies, for example. 

The amount of lies is no more than the amount of lies given by the democratic party.   It's just that you've taken a particular side.  

@Leo Gura is it? or are you to biased to see the Truth.  If you are indeed hallucinating realty ..which by the way you are..then you dreamed up Trump.  You wouldn't make him that bad because if you did you would put yourself out of the game.  You did just enough to make it interesting 

 

[UnbornTao]

32 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The amount of lies is no more than the amount of lies given by the democratic party.   It's just that you've taken a particular side.  

Of course I've taken a side.

Don't compare an individual to an entire party. And is that even true, though?

If you equate Trump with any other contemporary president or even presidential candidate, you're not paying attention. Biden may have been cognitively declining, but even that doesn't trump being an immature, pathological liar - to put it mildly.

Edited Sunday at 01:51 AM by UnbornTao

[Joshe]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Josheno i just feel hes not any worse. 

Looking at your signature, I see you value truth. Which means you don’t like falsehood. When we judge character, one of the main things we look for is integrity. Integrity is built upon truth. In other words, the degree to which one of your highest stated values is trampled upon can be a good gauge for how good or bad a character is. So how much one lies and deceives is the first thing you could look at.

The second thing you could look at is the degree to which one is self-serving at the expense of others. People who score high here are referred to as “pieces of shit”.  

These two metrics are currently sufficient for assessing the character of leaders as better or worse. 

Take all the presidents and stack them up objectively to see who is most deceptive and the degree to which they are willing to serve themselves at the expense of others, and if you’re honest, you’ll see Trump is in a league of his own. No one else even comes close. This is just objectively true.

These are the main metrics we use to assess the character of leaders as good or bad. 

35000 lies is objectively worse than 10. And actually caring about whether you cause harm to people is objectively better than not caring what harm you cause them at all. 

Malignant narcissism is objectively worse than typical narcissism, by orders of magnitude. Trump fleeced his supporters out of 250 millions dollars worth of donations, claiming he would use the money to help save America. He fleeces them all the time. No other politician that I’m aware of has ever done such depraved shit on such a large scale in our history. And this is just one of dozens, if not hundreds of depraved things Trump has done that hardly no other politician even comes close to. 

Edited Sunday at 02:56 AM by Joshe

[Inliytened1]

21 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Looking at your signature, I see you value truth. Which means you don’t like falsehood. When we judge character, one of the main things we look for is integrity. Integrity is built upon truth. In other words, the degree to which one of your highest stated values is trampled upon can be a good gauge for how good or bad a character is. So how much one lies and deceives is the first thing you could look at.

The second thing you could look at is the degree to which one is self-serving at the expense of others. People who score high here are referred to as “pieces of shit”.  

These two metrics are sufficient for assessing the character of leaders as better or worse. 

Take all the presidents and stack them up objectively to see who is most deceptive and the degree to which they are willing to serve themselves at the expense of others, and if you’re honest, you’ll see Trump is in a league of his own. No one else even comes close. This is just objectively true.

These are the main metrics we use to assess the character of leaders as good or bad. 

35000 lies is objectively worse than 10. And actually caring about whether you cause harm to people is objectively better than not caring what harm you cause them at all. 

Malignant narcissism is objectively worse than typical narcissism, by orders of magnitude. Trump fleeced his supporters out of 250 millions dollars worth of donations, claiming he would use the money to help save America. He fleeces them all the time. No other politician that I’m aware of has ever done such depraved shit on such a large scale in our history. And this is just one of dozens, if not hundreds of depraved things Trump has done that hardly no other politician even comes close to. 

Clinton was pretty messed up.

[Recursoinominado]

On 7/25/2025 at 9:04 PM, Leo Gura said:

I'm not a mind-reader. I don't know what all his crimes are. I just know there's too many crimes there to count.

But he will not be charged with any until he is out of office.

Why would a person with so many skeletons in the closet choose to be in the spotlight? 

He could live his whole life and die without paying for any of his crimes, but he had to be the center of attention and this attention made people investigate his life ever deeper. 

If I were him, I would just lay low, do my grifts, enjoy my money and that's it.

[Cocolove]

@Inliytened1 How about the lens of spiral dynamics? of personality disorders, insecurity? Of coming from a place of hate versus love? Yes the democratic establishment is fucked up but there are levels to these things. As a collective entity democrats are terribly corrupt, but also hold a pretty reasonable set of economic & social standards compared to most of human history. Trump literally frauds his golf performances like Kim Jong Un.

[Inliytened1]

3 hours ago, Cocolove said:

@Inliytened1 How about the lens of spiral dynamics? of personality disorders, insecurity? Of coming from a place of hate versus love? Yes the democratic establishment is fucked up but there are levels to these things. As a collective entity democrats are terribly corrupt, but also hold a pretty reasonable set of economic & social standards compared to most of human history. Trump literally frauds his golf performances like Kim Jong Un.

He's stage red but I think a lot of the democrats were so scared the world as we knew it would come to an end if he became President.  It didnt.  At the same time Trump hasn't made much of an impact.  Other nations laugh in his face and back home things haven't gotten any better.   If anything you guys should be happy about that.  It might open the door for a democrat to step back in.  Musk wants to see to it too.

Edited Sunday at 09:15 AM by Inliytened1

[Hardkill]

19 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

The amount of lies is no more than the amount of lies given by the democratic party.   It's just that you've taken a particular side.  

@Leo Gura is it? or are you to biased to see the Truth.  If you are indeed hallucinating realty ..which by the way you are..then you dreamed up Trump.  You wouldn't make him that bad because if you did you would put yourself out of the game.  You did just enough to make it interesting 

 

To be quite frank, that kind of false-equivalency or bothsideism thinking is an example of how people like you go too far with centrism, which plays right into the hands of authoritarians like Trump even though Trump will never gain total unchecked power like Hitler or Stalin did.