How to transcend physical pain

[Sugarcoat]

On 2025-07-24 at 7:02 PM, Breakingthewall said:

Sure, psychedelic works but that's depends about some factors. First, each person's innate structure, and second, intention. The intention must be one of openness, dissolution, and surrender. That is, if what you want is to see things, to understand, then you constantly situate yourself in a separate position. If your intention is openness, then it's possible.

It's quite simple. At a certain point, you realize that you are not looking at reality, but that you are reality. You truly realize, that there is no outside, there is no observer; this is the reality. Then, the opening can occur, which is that you, as reality, break through the limits. You are total, you have no bottom, and the vitality that emerges and permeates everything is totally obvious. You realize that you are that, that living substance that is synonymous with limitlessness. It's not that it is alive as biology, but that, being limitless, it is, and is total, everything. 

The point is achieving that openess easy, every day. At first maybe you need psychedelics, then you start to do adjustments in you energetic structure, they happen unconsciously, it's like everything else, if you really want becoming a professional boxer you will do little by little adjustments in your structure in that direction, if you really want openess, same, and things outside start to be synchronized. 

Thank you

[Ishanga]

You transcend it by not being so intouch with it, the Body and Mind complex, right now the majority of Us are super Attached or Identified with our Body/Mind complex whether we are Conscious or Unconscious of it! The more Identified with Body/Mind You are the more anything that touches it will hurt, its that simple, the opposite is true too, the more removed and detached/unidentified with it You are, the less it hurts..

The Path of going thru intense Suffering as a way to Realization is a very dangerous path, especially today with super identification situations with many aspects of one's self the people are involved with, most will not make it to the other side like the like of Frankl and others, much better to go the Peace or Bliss path, as slower and steadier/safer path for sure imo...

[Someone here]

17 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

It’s ok

For absolute majority suffering ends when we die

Some even say enlightenment isn’t end to suffering

So who knows

The guy in the video I sent about mindfulness and pain has at least transcended the physical. But he had to go through a lot to get to that point

I don’t know if Buddha achieved it in his life

OK I see . My point once again I can't conceive of the end of suffering as long as forms and limitations and lack and need exist In this world . If death is pure fucking eternal sleep then unfortunately that's the only way to escape suffering permanently. And unfortunately death is just like sleeping you take a pause to refresh and then start all over again =reincarnation. 

But buddhism actually teaches Nirvana or permanent nothingness if you conquer desire .

Edited 6 hours ago by Someone here