What is femininity ?

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, meta_male said:

Half the guys chasing them wouldn’t know the difference.

I don't think any guys enjoys dating an unhinged woman. Guys want women to be chill.

[meta_male]

@Leo Gura Yeah, no guy in his right mind consciously chooses an unhinged woman. It just takes too much effort and patience to filter properly, especially when the alternative is "starving."

[AION]

Softness 

[Davino]

At the core, femininity is Love.

You can have all the truth in the world and still feel miserably truthful to the point of suicide. Only love makes life worth it. That's the power of the feminine.

Masculine is Truth

Feminine is Love

Then: What is Sex?

[Schizophonia]

5 minutes ago, Davino said:

At the core, femininity is Love.

You can have all the truth in the world and still feel miserably truthful to the point of suicide. Only love makes life worth it. That's the power of the feminine.

Masculine is Truth

Feminine is Love

Then: What is Sex?

Hence opiates decrease testosterone 😏

[Xonas Pitfall]

6 minutes ago, Davino said:

At the core, femininity is Love.

You can have all the truth in the world and still feel miserably truthful to the point of suicide. Only love makes life worth it. That's the power of the feminine.

Masculine is Truth

Feminine is Love

Then: What is Sex?

Masculine is Self

Feminine is Love

Then: What is Sex? Self-Love! ❤

[Xonas Pitfall]

2 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

@Xonas Pitfall I enjoy your posts, IMO refreshing views and nice deconstruction of believes/assumptions

Bless! 😊💞💗💛

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 hours ago, meta_male said:

 And if you're constantly validated just for existing, growth doesn't feel necessary. Until reality hits hard.

As a man, do you feel this type of coddling is negative/detrimental? 

Almost a reward for zero effort. Participation trophy. 

On the one hand, it can be very powerful to be validated just as we are. We are allowed. No pressure to DO anything. Achieve anything. In some ways that can be a relief of pressure. Feminine love in overdrive.

Life gets boring & stagnant very quickly without challenge. Complexity is the element we can do away with. But a challenge feels like the sort of pressure most men crave as a path to feeling valid within masculinity.

Just my sleepy thoughts 

[Sugarcoat]

@Xonas Pitfall Do you write your posts yourself or use ai?

[Xonas Pitfall]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

@Xonas Pitfall Do you write your posts yourself or use ai?

I write it myself first, but I can't be bothered with grammar, capitalization, or spelling, so my original is very wonky. Then I run it through AI and say, 'Hey, correct grammar and capitalization.' It's an awesome combo, hehe! 

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

I write it myself first, but I can't be bothered with grammar, capitalization, or spelling, so my original is very wonky. Then I run it through AI and say, 'Hey, correct grammar and capitalization.' It's an awesome combo, hehe! 

Ok cool because you write very elaborate 

[Xonas Pitfall]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

Ok cool because you write very elaborate 

Thank you very much! I highly suggest this tip, to be honest. I feel like my thoughts got progressively clearer once I started doing it. I guess seeing them written out 'prettier' and properly motivated me to push extra hard to keep redefining my logic and communication style.

[Talinn]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Women have always relied on men for survival. So this is how the feminine tends to survive.

As long as a woman knows how to please a man, she won't have much problem surviving. So many women take on that role. This allows the woman to avoid confronting serious reality. She lives in a kind of socially constructed bubble detached from reality. She can get away with that as long as she's young, hot, and pleases men. It's a whole survival strategy, but at the cost of serious disconnection from truth. These kinds of women tend to be the most emotionally unhinged because facing serious reality is what's required to be emotionally grounded.

The reason I am grounded is because my survival and success required it. No one else was going to take care of me. No one else would even give me emotional support. If I had sugar daddies my whole life, I would be a spoiled, ungrounded person.

Yes this is mostly true. I feel as though feminine spirituality is like swinging on a trapeze bar, to borrow a phrase from Anaïs Nin. You're holding onto something concrete while swinging on the bar, but it does feel pretty airy. When you can preserve your femininity while still piercing the veil...

 

Edited Friday at 05:21 PM by Talinn

[Sugarcoat]

28 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

Thank you very much! I highly suggest this tip, to be honest. I feel like my thoughts got progressively clearer once I started doing it. I guess seeing them written out 'prettier' and properly motivated me to push extra hard to keep redefining my logic and communication style.

Thanks

[Jayson G]

On 7/24/2025 at 11:10 AM, Leo Gura said:

This is a poor selection of examples which muddle the issue.

The feminine is fundamentally ungrounded. Which is why it needs the masculine to ground it.

Women's minds live in emotional fantasy. Men provide the logical factual ground.

Anyone who's dated a feminine woman knows how ungrounded she is. That's why women are called hot & crazy.

A grounded woman is basically a man. These are the women who run corporations. Hilary Clinton is a grounded woman. She's got bigger balls and me.

The reason dealing with young hot women is so annoying is because they are ungrounded emotional messes. Women do not care about nor deal with truth, which makes them ungrounded. Men are forced to deal with truth or they starve to death or killed in battle.

Your understanding of spirituality is inverted. Masculine spirituality is the definition of ground. Truth IS ground. The masculine is pursuing ultimate grounding which the feminine cares nothing about. Your family's survival is not truth nor ground, it's Maya.

The pursuit of God is not an abstract flight of fancy, it is the most sober, grounded way of existence. The feminine is too chaotic to want that kind of grounding.

@Leo Gura I've been thinking about what you said here since yesterday .. 

So are you saying that all young, hot women are emotional messes to some degree? Are there no chill, honest, conscious women who are young, hot and feminine as well? 

I ask because I hope to get married some day to a woman who is all that - a) young, hot, and feminine but also chill, not crazy, honest and into personal growth. 

What I'm asking really is that is what you're saying the overall trend, or does this apply to all women? 

Like is your intent with this post to connect this to how reality works, or is it some kind of absolute statement that all young, hot, feminine women are ungrounded, emotional messes? 

Can a woman not be feminine and care for truth? 

Also I think I sense a limit in what you're saying .. You say: "Your family's survival is not truth nor ground, it's Maya." Emerald was talking for ex. about a mother being grounded for a child, and you said that's a poor example. But why is that a poor example? Aren't you yourself not just talking about god and truth, but also just their day-to-day character, emotional state, etc. when you talk about them being an emotional mess? I don't think most mothers are an emotional mess when dealing with their child. 

Also when reflecting back, yes I have dealt with a lot of emotionally messy, feminine women. But also I can think of feminine women who are also emotionally grounded as well. 

Also what about Emma Watson for example, she seems truth-oriented to some degree, not delusional or crazy, and young, hot and feminine? I think she is also some UN ambassador, and fights for feminism and equality. 

[Talinn]

8 minutes ago, Jayson G said:

@Leo Gura I've been thinking about what you said here since yesterday .. 

So are you saying that all young, hot women are emotional messes to some degree? Are there no chill, honest, conscious women who are young, hot and feminine as well? 

I ask because I hope to get married some day to a woman who is all that - a) young, hot, and feminine but also chill, not crazy, honest and into personal growth. 

What I'm asking really is that is what you're saying the overall trend, or does this apply to all women? 

Like is your intent with this post to connect this to how reality works, or is it some kind of absolute statement that all young, hot, feminine women are ungrounded, emotional messes? 

Can a woman not be feminine and care for truth? 

Also I think I sense a limit in what you're saying .. You say: "Your family's survival is not truth nor ground, it's Maya." Emerald was talking for ex. about a mother being grounded for a child, and you said that's a poor example. But why is that a poor example? Aren't you yourself not just talking about god and truth, but also just their day-to-day character, emotional state, etc. when you talk about them being an emotional mess? I don't think most mothers are an emotional mess when dealing with their child. 

Also when reflecting back, yes I have dealt with a lot of emotionally messy, feminine women. But also I can think of feminine women who are also emotionally grounded as well. 

Also what about Emma Watson for example, she seems truth-oriented to some degree, not delusional or crazy, and young, hot and feminine? I think she is also some UN ambassador, and fights for feminism and equality. 

We want to be lifted up by men, but we want to maintain the dream that at any time we can say "Put me down, love, I can stand on my own two feet." And we can definite being "lifted up by men" in different ways - but that is one feminine essence. There are others.

I wish that I could explain it better.

 

Edited Friday at 06:17 PM by Talinn

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Jayson G

Leo did begin with 'in general'. 

I noticed this because if he said all, I probably would have been tempted to get the red stilettos out 😈 ready for some verbal jousting 

 

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

It might be useful to further define some terms here - the difference between feeling and emotions. 

While women in general can be less grounded EMOTIONALLY. Grounded feeling and body interoception, I would argue, is higher for woman. This is again due to survival - women must have a keener development within this realm due to bearing children and giving birth. Caring for young - they must pay greater attention to physical feeling states to raise children. You see this reflected in reality - the body grounding and feeling states prompt women to more regularly go to the doctor etc. It's a common trend that men ignore physical feeling states and avoid doctors. Women need to be aware of body feeling states to act to protect pregnancy. To be receptive to communication from children regarding their physical feeling. To respond and provide caregiving.

And this also is born of necessity and survival. Men bleed in war, women bleed for birth. Men have been required to push through body interoception/feeling and ignore it to achieve. To protect. 

Stoicism acting as a survival mechanism. 

I think women are less grounded emotionally, more grounded in body feeling states and interoception. 

 

Edited yesterday at 02:51 AM by Natasha Tori Maru

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I think this is what we are seeing with Ralston. He is grounded in emotion - masculine stoicism - while simultaneously grounded in physical feeling states - feminine. You can see the incredible level of body presence and groundedness in his YouTube talks. He looks completely comfortable and at ease within his physicality.

I think he has a lot of balance of yin/yang. Probably due to his martial practice. 

[Leo Gura]

12 hours ago, Davino said:

At the core, femininity is Love.

You can have all the truth in the world and still feel miserably truthful to the point of suicide. Only love makes life worth it. That's the power of the feminine.

Masculine is Truth

Feminine is Love

No!

It is about survival. Immature people are incapable of love and don't know what love is.