Does improvement/growth in life has to be painful? Or it can be fun?

[Never_give_up]

Does life always have to be about pain? can someone practice something to level up in life and have fun while doing it or it's a delusion and personal developement has to be side by side with pain or at least discomfort? 

[Princess Arabia]

15 minutes ago, Never_give_up said:

Does life always have to be about pain? can someone practice something to level up in life and have fun while doing it or it's a delusion and personal developement has to be side by side with pain or at least discomfort? 

The enjoyment is in the pain and the pain in the enjoyment. Can't separate the two. 

Momma went through a lot of pain to have you but the enjoyment was in the delivery. Lots of pain involved in birthing, the joys are felt in the rewards.

[Rafael Thundercat]

As soon as you draw a concave you create at same time a convex

[Jacob Morres]

When i lift heavy i love the pain. It means im growing and getting better. Theres a positive association with it in my mind and i actually crave the progressive overload. Sort of like this lmao

 

 

[Never_give_up]

@Jacob Morresif you love pain cause there is a positive association, doesn't this mean that you actually having fun? Cause you feel a slight pain for a second and suddenly all the pain is gone. Which means that progress is fun and you love your journey.... or am I wrong?

[Rigel]

I don’t see why both can’t exist at the same time.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, Never_give_up said:

@Jacob Morresif you love pain cause there is a positive association, doesn't this mean that you actually having fun? Cause you feel a slight pain for a second and suddenly all the pain is gone. Which means that progress is fun and you love your journey.... or am I wrong?

You can endure the pain/suffering of the discipline, when you are pursuing your personal meaning.

Finding that meaning is it. Once you unlock it, the pursuit becomes the pleasure.

[Jacob Morres]

@Never_give_up 

yeah i would say a lot of aspects of it are fun. Esp when i get into flow during the workout. Lots of pain but "who cares thats the point" i think 

Edited July 17 by Jacob Morres

[samijiben]

No pain, no gain.

[Ramanujan]

Learn to enjoy it

Eliminate pain, stop doing it by pain

Practice loving the thing you do and soon it become enjoyable

 

It's possible to improve by pleasure

It's possible to improve without pain

[Aaron p]

Maaany people have developed a liking for the infliction of pain during sexual intercourse. I don't see why it can't be done for daily living in every day life. Pain is interesting. Think about why people order really spicy food. The difficulty and *intentional* suffering is an interesting colour. You want the full package 📦  when that Amazon delivery guy comes to your front door, you don't take 90% of your package, you take the whole thing and you want to have a big package.

[Basman]

Inside your comfort zone you already essentially mastered your environment. The experience you will gain from outside your comfort zone is what you'll need to grow ultimately.

Anything valuable will require some short-term pain, but the long-term pleasure will pay for that pain with interests.

The trick is to associate more pleasure than pain to acting on your growth and more pain than pleasure to avoiding taking action. 

1. What actions have you have been avoiding taking?

2. Why haven't you been taking action? What pain have you linked to this action?

3. What have been all the pleasures you've had indulging in negative patterns of behavior?

4. What will it cost you if you don't change?

5. What pleasures will you receive by taking action now?

Edited July 17 by Basman

[Basman]

You want to have a growth mindset where leveling up is more interesting than staying the same. There will always be some kind of pain to pushing yourself because you have to discipline yourself, put in effort and take risks. But see it as challenge that makes your life more interesting. Like, a video game on super easy mode gets boring fast. 

We tend to overestimate how painful pushing our comfort zone actually is anyway. You can handle much more than you think. Like soldiers going through boot camp push themselves physically much farther than they thought they where capable of and end up just fine.