Is There Anything to Fear at All?

[Someone here]

9 minutes ago, Dodo said:

You're not afraid of h*ll? Takes balls to say that..

50 minutes ago, Hojo said:

You should be scared of death. Its the scariest fkin thing ever.

So you are going to die and death is painful as hell .

And you're going to go to hell and hell is painful as death .

How do you like that ?

There is nothing that your ego can do . The only thing that's going to save your ass is total nihilism to unimaginable degrees..maybe .

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat your aware its happening. Imagine you wake up in the morning and there's nothing there but you know there's nothing there and you just sit there. You can still think you can still emote. Its like your ears plugged, eyes sewn shut ,mouth sewn shut, body tied together you cant move but you know you are there. Then you go to sleep after 16 hours and experience the same thing nothing. Then you wake up and you experience everything sewn shut again then go to sleep wake up over and over for infinite time. Forever not 100 years not 1000 years more than 1 million years. Its so long you lose concepts of everything and just cry out for experience.

Its like I have no mouth but want to scream I have no eyes but want to see i have no ears but want to hear i have no body but want to move. I'm by myself but want other people.

If you came out of death you would want the horrible reincarnation over death. You would beg for it. You would say please God I want to experience something.

Edited Friday at 09:56 PM by Hojo

[Dodo]

39 minutes ago, Someone here said:

So you are going to die and death is painful as hell .

And you're going to go to hell and hell is painful as death .

How do you like that ?

There is nothing that your ego can do . The only thing that's going to save your ass is total nihilism to unimaginable degrees..maybe .

39 minutes ago, Someone here said:

So you are going to die and death is painful as hell .

And you're going to go to hell and hell is painful as death .

How do you like that ?

There is nothing that your ego can do . The only thing that's going to save your ass is total nihilism to unimaginable degrees..maybe .

or God.. i cant saave myself for shit. Everyone has redeemable qualities.. you breathed, you gave back life to the trees and the plants. If you are not downright evil, I expect everyone gets a fair punishment based on severity of their crimes and actions, and God will judge, not any one human ego.

Edited Friday at 09:58 PM by Dodo

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Sugarcoat your aware its happening. Imagine you wake up in the morning and there's nothing there but you know there's nothing there and you just sit there. You can still think you can still emote. Its like your ears plugged, eyes sewn shut ,mouth sewn shut, body tied together you cant move but you know you are there. Then you go to sleep after 16 hours and experience the same thing nothing. Then you wake up and you experience everything sewn shut again then go to sleep wake up over and over for infinite time.

Its like I have no mouth but want to scream I have no eyes but want to see i have no ears but want to hear i have no body but want to move. I'm by myself but want other people.

If you came out of death you would want the horrible reincarnation over death. You would beg for it.

Are you aware of the nothingness during deep sleep? No right. So why wouldn’t death be like that (if death is nothingness)

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat no but you are aware when you wake up. You will wake up and still be in the deep sleep space, aware that you are existing in nothing. Its like if this world never existed and you are there in nothing. Hours go by days go back years go by and you are aware that you are existing. You will have periods of being aware and not aware. So you still have deep sleep states but that and being aware are the same thing. Theres no difference between being asleep and awake in the state except you will know you are there.

Like the deep sleep space is just you not struggling. If you woke up and were still in the deep sleep space you would struggle. You would say WTF is happening  ! And you will say where is everyone where am I? I died and I'm all alone forever! 

Edited Friday at 10:02 PM by Hojo

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Sugarcoat no but you are aware when you wake up. You will wake up and still be in the deep sleep space, aware that you are existing in nothing. Its like if this world never existed and you are there in nothing. Hours go by days go back years go by and you are aware that you are existing. You will have periods of being aware and not aware. So you still have deep sleep states but that and being aware are the same thing. Theres no difference between being asleep and awake in the state except you will know you are there.

Like the deep sleep space is just you not struggling. If you woke up and were still in the deep sleep space you would struggle. You would say WTF is happening  !

But how do you know that

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat i saw it.

After so many days or months of struggling eventually my aware state and deep sleep state merge together and I become God. Perma deep sleep. But you have to go through all your left over shit by yourself.

Thats why people meditate they are focusing on nothing so when they die they won't struggle. No attachments always brain dead. Thats mukti no struggle on death instant respawn or no respawn. The problem is dont know how you will react until you get there. You dont see the fruits of your labour until its over.

Its sort of like being grounded in your room by your parents but forever. God won't let you out until you stop pouting.

Since there's no sun or light you dont know how long it takes. You can only know by how many times you fall asleep and wake up in nothing. When it happened to me it felt like I spent 3 solid months in nothing. Then I randomly woke up in my own same body that I died in the next morning.

And now I understand the saying die before you die and you never die again. When your aware and sleep merge together into deep sleep you are looking directly at Shiva.

When I eat shrooms the deep sleep state showed itself to me while I was awake and said remeber me? I am real. And I am always with you. Even when you are dead.

So how do I know? Shiva showed and told me.

Edited Friday at 10:18 PM by Hojo

[Someone here]

@Dodo "god " is not an entity . God is a state of consciousness. Thats how i understood it . You can call it god ..nihilism..liberation..not giving a shit or anything.. but at some point you have to have the courage to surrender all fear.  You have to be able to dance naked in public and not give two squats what people think cuz you're fully conscious of something that is beyond words . Surrendering fear is inevitable because you have no other choice .you don't have to do it .it will be done out of your own will.so no need to worry . You can sleep tight. 

[JayT79]

Fear will always exist. Speaking of fear I just had an encounter with someone today at a convenience store, my fear and adrenaline was kicked in high gear, felt like I was about to get into a big fight so I caved in, I wish I had confronted it in a different way. Now I'm kicking myself.

[Sugarcoat]

9 hours ago, Hojo said:

@Sugarcoat i saw it.

After so many days or months of struggling eventually my aware state and deep sleep state merge together and I become God. Perma deep sleep. But you have to go through all your left over shit by yourself.

Thats why people meditate they are focusing on nothing so when they die they won't struggle. No attachments always brain dead. Thats mukti no struggle on death instant respawn or no respawn. The problem is dont know how you will react until you get there. You dont see the fruits of your labour until its over.

Its sort of like being grounded in your room by your parents but forever. God won't let you out until you stop pouting.

Since there's no sun or light you dont know how long it takes. You can only know by how many times you fall asleep and wake up in nothing. When it happened to me it felt like I spent 3 solid months in nothing. Then I randomly woke up in my own same body that I died in the next morning.

And now I understand the saying die before you die and you never die again. When your aware and sleep merge together into deep sleep you are looking directly at Shiva.

When I eat shrooms the deep sleep state showed itself to me while I was awake and said remeber me? I am real. And I am always with you. Even when you are dead.

So how do I know? Shiva showed and told me.

Cool experience

[Schizophonia]

@Hojo @Sugarcoat Nothingness doesn’t exists or at least it’s the same thing than everything at the same time, that would be like being completely alive.  

Like you imagine nothingness as a black void, but “black” and “void” are already limits; it’s not nothingness it’s even the opposite it’s very limited.

When you fall asleep there is never non existence as we can imagine it it’s an illusion, you either go in a dream of to the next day; you’re alive and then you’re alive and experimenting again just not the same thing.

 

Edited Saturday at 08:11 AM by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

10 hours ago, Hojo said:

@Sugarcoat i saw it.

After so many days or months of struggling eventually my aware state and deep sleep state merge together and I become God. Perma deep sleep. But you have to go through all your left over shit by yourself.

Thats why people meditate they are focusing on nothing so when they die they won't struggle. No attachments always brain dead.

10 hours ago, Hojo said:

Thats mukti no struggle on death instant respawn or no respawn. The problem is dont know how you will react until you get there. You dont see the fruits of your labour until its over.

Its sort of like being grounded in your room by your parents but forever. God won't let you out until you stop pouting.

Since there's no sun or light you dont know how long it takes. You can only know by how many times you fall asleep and wake up in nothing. When it happened to me it felt like I spent 3 solid months in nothing. Then I randomly woke up in my own same body that I died in the next morning.

And now I understand the saying die before you die and you never die again. When your aware and sleep merge together into deep sleep you are looking directly at Shiva.

When I eat shrooms the deep sleep state showed itself to me while I was awake and said remeber me? I am real. And I am always with you. Even when you are dead.

So how do I know? Shiva showed and told me.

I saw somewhere 5 MeO DMT can give the feeling to last hundreds even thousands or years

[Sugarcoat]

5 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

@Hojo @Sugarcoat Nothingness doesn’t exists or at least it’s the same thing than everything at the same time, that would be like being completely alive.  

Like you imagine nothingness as a black void, but “black” and “void” are already limits; it’s not nothingness it’s even the opposite it’s very limited.

 

Yea that’s in the absolute sense, but I’m talking about nothingness in the relative sense, meaning the absence of something (because in the relative sense there is separate things) . 
 

 

7 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

@Hojo @Sugarcoat 

When you fall asleep there is never non existence as we can imagine it it’s an illusion, you either go in a dream of to the next day; you’re alive and then you’re alive and experimenting again just not the same thing.

 

I mean non existence is nothing, so it cannot be experienced or recognized, as we can only experience and recognize “something”. That’s why it seems we just “pass it” in our sleep. So yea you could say non existence never ~is~ because it’s nothing 

 

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

I saw somewhere 5 MeO DMT can give the feeling to last hundreds even thousands or years

Damn so you’re telling me I could essentially escape my own life for thousands of years into dmt realm

[Schizophonia]

12 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Damn so you’re telling me I could essentially escape my own life for thousands of years into dmt realm

To escape from Valentin’s lame jokes and derealization a bit lol

Yea I talked to youtuber I know that taken plenty of psychedelics about 5 MeO DMT, he explained me that when he take a big dose (it was under form of bufo alvarius)by smoking it the idea of time completely collapsed and felt tike there literally were hundreds of years between each breath and the totality of experience last thousands of years.

Then the afterglow is very good according to him, like you feel happier and more like a child the next weeks.

 

Edited Saturday at 08:34 AM by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

10 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Yea that’s in the absolute sense, but I’m talking about nothingness in the relative sense, meaning the absence of something (because in the relative sense there is separate things) . 
 

10 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

 

I mean non existence is nothing, so it cannot be experienced or recognized, as we can only experience and recognize “something”. That’s why it seems we just “pass it” in our sleep. So yea you could say non existence never ~is~ because it’s nothing 

 

Yes

[Sugarcoat]

20 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

To escape from Valentin’s lame jokes and derealization a bit lol

Yea I talked to youtuber I know that taken plenty of psychedelics about 5 MeO DMT, he explained me that when he take a big dose (it was under form of bufo alvarius)by smoking it the idea of time completely collapsed and felt tike there literally were hundreds of years between each breath and the totality of experience last thousands of years.

Then the afterglow is very good according to him, like you feel happier and more like a child the next weeks.

 

I’m still in disbelief my parents really threw away such a precious substance

[James123]

15 hours ago, Hojo said:

You should be scared of death. Its the scariest fkin thing ever.

The body is prison. 

[gettoefl]

Fear is, I don't want bad stuff happening. Problem is, the bad is on the way. If today is good tomorrow is bad. Welcome the bad when it arrives. Bad isn't the end. It's what makes you interesting. Every day when I work out, I work out until pain is brutal. Pain is my good friend. And it's not that bad. Take charge of your life and see how fear is equipping you for divinity.

[Hojo]

There is something there witnessing it. That which is not will be witnessing it. The same way, that which is not is witnessing your dreams.The same way that which is not is witnessing your deep sleep. The same, that which is not that is witnessing your life. You are not you you are that which is not you. That which is not never goes away its here right now and when in deep sleep and in dreams.

That which is not can have 2 ways of being. Aware and not aware. When death comes you will be an aware of, that which is not ,and a not aware of that which is not. Until you stop becoming unaware and are a fully aware, of that which is not for infinite. Cause thats all there is.

Edited Sunday at 01:45 AM by Hojo