Is porn a net negative to society?

[something_else]

On 24/06/2025 at 7:12 AM, RendHeaven said:

Do you know how long I pretended to verbally not have a porn addiction while jerking it to a flickering screen in shame every night?

The problem here is the shame, not the jerking off to porn.

Jerking off once a day is not going to hurt you in any meaningful way unless you attach a ton of shame to it.

 

[Leo Gura]

What is this shame?

Why???

[RendHeaven]

11 hours ago, something_else said:

The problem here is the shame, not the jerking off to porn.

No.

11 hours ago, something_else said:

Jerking off once a day is not going to hurt you in any meaningful way unless you attach a ton of shame to it.

Sure, if you close your eyes and use your imagination

[something_else]

1 hour ago, RendHeaven said:

No.

Great argument 

1 hour ago, RendHeaven said:

Sure, if you close your eyes and use your imagination

Use your imagination sometimes, watch porn sometimes. Can you actually explain why you think porn is bad for you instead of just asserting that it is the case?

IMO in moderation porn isn't bad for you, but if you believe it is then you'll feel guilt and shame and a whole other concoction of negative emotions.

[RendHeaven]

2 hours ago, something_else said:

Can you actually explain why you think porn is bad for you instead of just asserting that it is the case?

I have post after post after post across page 2 and 3 with elaborate detail

2 hours ago, something_else said:

IMO in moderation porn isn't bad for you

I agree

[Twentyfirst]

Porn is a result of prolonged adolescence. If you got married at 20 and had as many kids as possible you wouldn't need porn. Instead guys wait until 40 and women have careers. The guys go on a rampage but by the end always end up saying they just want one nice girl. The funniest thing on twitter right now are the posts saying that women's careers are just daycares for them to not have children but still keep them busy lmao. I know some women are surgeons and stuff and thats actually useful but all those other jobs are not important enough to replace raising the next generation

If the masses of women were smart they would monopolize sexual and bodily access to drive up their prices on the market but instead they give it out so cheap that it's basically the cost of nothing now. Free sex, porn, talking about sex in public, wearing thongs and bras to go shopping for groceries. Men used to create inventions just to see a pair of tits that were probably not even the best tits around but now any boy can skip the development of becoming a man but still get the benefits. I want to open up a tinder for billionaires to connect with virgins and take a percentage because it's so rare now that these guys will pay however much it costs. All feminism is is that women should be able to get married while not having virginity. All red pill is is that men want virgins. And all porn is to keep everyone sedated long enough for the fertility clock to run out

Here is the solution. Have all of your porn fantasies in the privacy of your own home in wedlock and feel no shame about it. But that would be too simple and fix too many problems for people to accept it

As always traditional > modernity 

[Twentyfirst]

Men Did Greater Things When It Was Harder To See Boobs

https://thefederalist.com/2016/06/23/men-did-greater-things-when-it-was-harder-to-see-boobs/

[Basman]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What is this shame?

Why???

They are convinced that it is more masculine to abstain, so when they "relapse" they see it as a personal and moral failure, like they are emasculating themselves.

Plus religious/conservative attitudes, where they see masturbation and porn as inherently immoral and gross. Like how religious dudes look at gay men holding hands. 

[Florian]

On 24.6.2025 at 8:16 AM, Leo Gura said:

It's a net positive because humans are not conscious, mature, nor developed enough to manage heathily without it.

Such a level of maturity and development cannot be achieved through legal bans.

There is no better alternative at this time.

@Leo Gura

So does that mean that in your mind its better or healthier for a developed person who is consious and mature to avoid porn?

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Florian said:

@Leo Gura

So does that mean that in your mind its better or healthier for a developed person who is consious and mature to avoid porn?

It's more conscious to transcend the sex drive entirely. But unless you do that, then it's not a big deal.

Edited June 26 by Leo Gura

[Basman]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's more conscious to transcend the sex drive entirely. But unless you do that, then it's not a big deal.

Why is that? Is sex inherently unconscious? 

[vibv]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's more conscious to transcend the sex drive entirely. But unless you do that, then it's not a big deal.

It's a big deal when it's an addiction. Why's that? Because addiction contradicts truth.

[Florian]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's more conscious to transcend the sex drive entirely. But unless you do that, then it's not a big deal.

Hmm, Im still unsure because I stopped watching porn entirely like 277 days ago and I can definitly say my social interaction ability has improved dramatically, even already at around day 30 and I think it has gotten even better and also even since then I continiously get my life more under control via perfect diet, having a consistent and healthy sleep schedule and also working on my life purpose everyday a little bit and building more coherent habits. I have been working on all that for years and maybe now is just the time where it finally clicked and all comes together but I still feel like avoiding porn is playing a big part in all this.

[cistanche_enjoyer]

When you look at porn you are looking at God right?

As long as it’s not an addiction, you can see it as exploring the infinite Beauty of God.

[Someone here]

I think who the hell even enjoys watching porn anymore?  Maybe because I watch it a lot that I've grown bored and sick of it. Or maybe I'm becoming asexual.  What's so interesting about watching a penis going in and out of some pussy and a couple of fake tits combined with some fake moans ?

I think porn was really something exciting a decade ago or when it wasn't so easily accessible..but now in 2025 its literally lost its "spark".  Not that I don't still watch it ..but it's like "yeah porn ..whatever ".

[RendHeaven]

5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

watching a penis going in and out of some pussy

watching non-solo videos in 2025 🥀🥀

[Someone here]

@RendHeaven everything lost its spark not just porn . That's cause we are fucking glued to our smartphones and have ruined our brains . Food tastes like shit as well in 2025. Amazing. 

[Schizophonia]

17 hours ago, Someone here said:

I think who the hell even enjoys watching porn anymore?  Maybe because I watch it a lot that I've grown bored and sick of it. Or maybe I'm becoming asexual.  What's so interesting about watching a penis going in and out of some pussy and a couple of fake tits combined with some fake moans ?

I think porn was really something exciting a decade ago or when it wasn't so easily accessible..but now in 2025 its literally lost its "spark".  Not that I don't still watch it ..but it's like "yeah porn ..whatever ".

Porn is quite addictive for me, maybe more than anything else.

 

 

Edited July 11 by Schizophonia

[Someone here]

10 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Porn is quite addictive for me, maybe more than anything else.

 

 

It's addictive no doubt about it . But overwatching it have desensitised my brain. I literally should unlock a prize for world record in watching this crap...which is why it stopped working on me . That's why I get into gay and Japanese shemale and disgusting shit .lol

Do yourself a favour and cut porn completely from your life. It's  one of the biggest traps of modern life .not in a moral sense but I don't need to explain cuz I did elsewhere. 

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

It's addictive no doubt about it . But overwatching it have desensitised my brain. I literally should unlock a prize for world record in watching this crap...which is why it stopped working on me . That's why I get into gay and Japanese shemale and disgusting shit .lol

lol first time i hear about that.

My thing is really tall, thin white women; i love it; i can also watch videos with black and Asian women too even if i like less.

 

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Do yourself a favour and cut porn completely from your life. It's  one of the biggest traps of modern life .not in a moral sense but I don't need to explain cuz I did elsewhere. 

Yes you’re right