Leo's advice on pick up can be misleading.

[Majed]

Leo doesn't emphasize the importance of being holistically well put together overall to succeed in dating. Like if you're homeless, most likely you won't get laid. Money, and looks matter almost as much social skills. I feel like Leo doesn't stress this enough. I kinda wasted years chasing girls without a proper money foundation and working on my look, which ended in me not getting laid. My skillset in game and seduction improved significantly though. 

Also women, and i know this from experience, are attracted to luxury. If you wear a luxurious watch, clothes or drive a luxurious car... All those factors help you get laid. Social skills are not enough, you also need money, and looks, otherwise getting laid will be difficult. 

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Majed said:

If you wear a luxurious watch, clothes or drive a luxurious car... All those factors help you get laid.

Nonsense.

The only obstacle money presents is that you may need money to access the areas where the women are, like nightclub. Other than that money is not needed for pickup.

Edited Friday at 10:04 PM by Leo Gura

[Miguel1]

On the contrary,

Money can be a huge hindarance in getting ONS & low investment sex.

[Princess Arabia]

24 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Money can be a huge hindarance in getting ONS & low investment sex.

Another women are the prize comment. Men don't usually need to be invested in to get sex from them. Neither one is a requisite for sex but you just made women's sex a prize or not by rating how it's gotten. I made a pact to point out how men automatically make women the prize without even noticing it. It's so natural that it's in the language and expectations. Your words says men should invest in a woman before sex is expected, if not it's called 'low investment', meaning easy prize.

[Tenebroso]

You are just discovering as an adult man that looks and money matter?

[Leo Gura]

I have never gotten a girl with my money. The very notion strikes me as absurd. Girls never know how much money I have.

I've had girls come home with me act surprised that I wasn't homeless. "Wow! You have a nice house. I thought you were homeless." I had a girl say that to me. She was a 10.

Says more about her than about me

If you think hot girls don't sleep with homeless guys, you don't know girls.

I encourage you to tell every girl you date that you're homeless. Just for fun. Just to see that they will sleep with you anyway.

Edited yesterday at 01:55 AM by Leo Gura

[Miguel1]

@Princess Arabia Of course when it comes to solely just sex, women have the power.

When it comes to commitment and relationship from the top guys, that’s a whole another story.

[Razard86]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I have never gotten a girl with my money. The very notion strikes me as absurd. Girls never know how much money I have.

I've had girls come home with me act surprised that I wasn't homeless. "Wow! You have a nice house. I thought you were homeless." I had a girl say that to me. She was a 10.

Says more about her than about me

If you think hot girls don't sleep with homeless guys, you don't know girls.

I encourage you to tell every girl you date that you're homeless. Just for fun. Just to see that they will sleep with you anyway.

I can confirm I know a girl who is like an 8 and she dated a homeless guy and had sex with him.

[Majed]

@Leo Gura Notice that you needed to put your finances together, before entering pick up. This wasn't a coincidence. 

Also what kinda nonsense is this: women sleep with homeless men ? Maybe 1% of homeless men sleep with women, 99% of homeless men do not get sex. As a bisexual man myself, i wouldn't want to sleep with a homeless man, i have at least some standards. Women prefer men who are have money, over men who don't. That's obvious enough. Without money you'll get nowhere in dating. Money and looks matter a lot. Stop misleading people. Without money you can't move to a good city, without money you can't handle the logistics, so yeah obviously money matters. And in a relationship, a girl would rather be with a guy who has money than with a homeless penniless guy.

Edited 19 hours ago by Majed

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Majed said:

@Leo Gura Notice that you needed to put your finances together, before entering pick up. This wasn't a coincidence. 

It's not a requirement but it does help to have enough money that you aren't grinding at work nonstop.

I have low energy from chronic health problems, so for me working and doing pickup was not sustainable. But for normal healthy people you can work and still go out at night.

As I said, I had many friends in pickup who worked normal jobs and none of them were rich.

Finances will not help you get girls. It will help you get an apartment close to clubs, a car to drive to clubs, and money to pay for clubs. But then again, daygame is free. Many bars are free.

Edited 19 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Keryo Koffa]

3 hours ago, Razard86 said:

I can confirm I know a girl who is like an 8 and she dated a homeless guy and had sex with him.

Homeless people are based, I wish I had the guts to be homeless.

[AION]

Don’t homeless people stink? Hard to imagine 10’s sleeping with them. The US is a crazy place. Something like that wouldn’t happen in Europe. The homeless people here can’t even get in a nightclub. 

[AION]

I had an American friend here in Europe and he said he didn’t get laid once here in Europe while in the US he would just get laid by talking. 

The US a very lax hookup culture that other places don’t have. I think Leo is underestimating cultural differences. Even Western Europe don’t have that culture. Only certain cities and holiday destinations where hedonism is rampant. 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, AION said:

I had an American friend here in Europe and he said he didn’t get laid once here in Europe while in the US he would just get laid by talking. 

What bollocks!

I have an American friend who moved to Eastern Europe just for all the sex. He picks up 2 new girls a week. Ukraine then Poland.

Edited 19 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Keryo Koffa]

1 hour ago, AION said:

1. Don’t homeless people stink? Hard to imagine 10’s sleeping with them.
2. The US is a crazy place. Something like that wouldn’t happen in Europe.
3. The homeless people here can’t even get in a nightclub. 

You seem to have missed a vital Actualized.org episode on Inflection!
But have you considered the alternative interpretation that homeless people are hot? 

Edited 18 hours ago by Keryo Koffa

[joeyi99]

16 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What bollocks!

I have an American friend who moved to Eastern Europe just for all the sex. He picks up 2 new girls a week. Ukraine then Poland.

Daygame?