Is Charisma and Game all just faking status?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Emerald

I admire your optimism - really inspiring.

Do you think you see more of the smaller % of the population of women who are into this work? It could make your view skewed more to believing there are more of us out there.

I feel very isolated. When my colleagues / existing family ask me what I did on the weekend and I reply 'meditated, float tank, consciousness work, mindfulness, dog' etc the conversation DIES. I just don't really talk much to others as this topic kills the conversation. My grandfather raised me, and the family members who heavily lead me to spirituality are gone now. I feel very different being raised with no TV in an artist's studio with buddha heads, human skulls, religious icons, ganesh statues etc. Probably the turpentine fumes made me existentially depressed from a young age haha!

Spiritual groups just never work for me. I never find pragmatic individuals, who are also able to maintain elevated states of consciousness, in a healthy way to facilitate exploration. Not that I can do this all the time, but I am a lot happier and content and powerful within myself than most. The questions I ask of reality - most people don't get.

They can't manage the material nature of existence and hold space for consciousness work.

 

Edited June 20 by Natasha Tori Maru

[Miguel1]

8 hours ago, Onecirrus said:

Jocko is objectively the stronger man, but women’s psychology would be convinced your pua buddies are the stronger man.

Big difference between physical and mental strenght.

A jacked guy who is a scaredy cat vs a small fearless guy, who doesn’t take shit from anyone.

It’s easy to imagine who girls would be more attracted to, at the end of the day.

[Puer Aeternus]

36 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Emerald

I admire your optimism - really inspiring.

Do you think you see more of the smaller % of the population of women who are into this work? It could make your view skewed more to believing there are more of us out there.

I feel very isolated. When my colleagues / existing family ask me what I did on the weekend and I reply 'meditated, float tank, consciousness work, mindfulness, dog' etc the conversation DIES. I just don't really talk much to others as this topic kills the conversation. My grandfather raised me, and the family members who heavily lead me to spirituality are gone now. I feel very different being raised with no TV in an artist's studio with buddha heads, human skulls, religious icons, ganesh statues etc. Probably the turpentine fumes made me existentially depressed from a young age haha!

Spiritual groups just never work for me. I never find pragmatic individuals, who are also able to maintain elevated states of consciousness, in a healthy way to facilitate exploration. Not that I can do this all the time, but I am a lot happier and content and powerful within myself than most. The questions I ask of reality - most people don't get.

They can't manage the material nature of existence and hold space for consciousness work.

 

Thou shalt wager a guess! 

It's somewhere.. it's somewhere in the middle. I mean Emerald's out here making content on this stuff.. so of course, people interested in said content swim on in. And it's hard not to have perception skewed with that level of access!

You're on the opposite end of the spectrum. As in, you could go through your in-person life not brushing shoulders with anyone on your level.. or at least? Not being aware that you did. Cause yanno..

When my colleagues / existing family ask me what I did on the weekend and I reply 'meditated, float tank, consciousness work, mindfulness, dog' etc the conversation DIES. I just don't really talk much to others as this topic kills the conversation. 

This response KILLS trying, because most of the time. It doesn't work! Same is happening to other people out there like you, they're shuttin up n laying low. But they're still out there, God knows where. Just sort of.. Invisible.

There's also- Well. There's different depths  to the game  Maybe the folks you're meeting at the spiritual groups just aren't as far in as you. I mean I'm not quite sure what you're looking for! But seems like it could be a case of you being like let's go free diving in the ocean, bitchesss. But they're still getting used to wadin around in the kiddie pool  There's always gonna be a blob of beginners that have to be filtered through 

Edited June 20 by Puer Aeternus

[aurum]

It's very context dependent.

Someone like Jocko is a bad example because he is a serious person who thrives in serious environments. That's his niche.

Expecting Jocko to thrive in a nightclub, where it's about cutting loose and having fun, is not that realistic. He might be able to do it but it's not going to be his strength.

A lot of "game" is about understanding what environment you thrive in and setting things up in your favor.

The only reason nightclubs are recommended is because of volume. If you're going out to deliberately approach women, you just need a lot of them in one area to make it worth the time investment. Also, there's more of a chance for casual encounters because people are feeling loose and partying. It's not because nightclubs will automatically play into the strengths of your personality.

Edited June 20 by aurum

[Natasha Tori Maru]

17 minutes ago, Puer Aeternus said:

Thou shalt wager a guess! 

It's somewhere.. it's somewhere in the middle. I mean Emerald's out here making content on this stuff.. so of course, people interested in said content swim on in. And it's hard not to have perception skewed with that level of access!

You're on the opposite end of the spectrum. As in, you could go through your in-person life not brushing shoulders with anyone on your level.. or at least? Not being aware that you did. Cause yanno..

When my colleagues / existing family ask me what I did on the weekend and I reply 'meditated, float tank, consciousness work, mindfulness, dog' etc the conversation DIES. I just don't really talk much to others as this topic kills the conversation. 

This response KILLS trying, because most of the time. It doesn't work! Same is happening to other people out there like you, they're shuttin up n laying low. But they're still out there, God knows where. Just sort of.. Invisible.

There's also- Well. There's different depths  to the game  Maybe the folks you're meeting at the spiritual groups just aren't as far in as you. I mean I'm not quite sure what you're looking for! But seems like it could be a case of you being like let's go free diving in the ocean, bitchesss. But they're still getting used to wadin around in the kiddie pool  There's always gonna be a blob of beginners that have to be filtered through 

You are quite right - my problem is I lack the ability to discern the qualities I seek.

It is not so much they aren't present, but I fail to see the signs.

Or, others aren't as interested in exploring spirituality cohesively. But I know this must not be the case, as there are groups abound.

I think finding someone I truly see eye-to-eye with is mostly the issue

[Puer Aeternus]

3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

You are quite right - my problem is I lack the ability to discern the qualities I seek.

It is not so much they aren't present, but I fail to see the signs.

Or, others aren't as interested in exploring spirituality cohesively. But I know this must not be the case, as there are groups abound.

I think finding someone I truly see eye-to-eye with is mostly the issue

Tsk tsk, how to sniff out the match you're looking for eh. 

So, it is 100% discernment? You're idyllic lake advertised on a water bottle levels of crystal clear on what qualities you're looking for? Or are there doubts there too?

How do you try to assess people? Are you very analytical with it or do you more so just let the intuition go craaaazy? Or perhaps, something else? 

[Schizophonia]

Charisma comes from self-honesty 

[Salvijus]

I think you need to have "main character" vibes to score. But to make a genuine connection you just have to be genuine. Depends what you're looking for. 

Edited June 20 by Salvijus

[Onecirrus]

5 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

Big difference between physical and mental strenght.

A jacked guy who is a scaredy cat vs a small fearless guy, who doesn’t take shit from anyone.

It’s easy to imagine who girls would be more attracted to, at the end of the day.

Idk, I’m not convinced Owen Cooke or Julian Blanc are exceptionally strong people. I think it’s about how the woman perceives strength, or how good you market yours to her which is what game is about. The strongest guys in America are in the Alaskan wilderness, and they get no girls.

[Miguel1]

7 hours ago, Onecirrus said:

I’m not convinced Owen Cooke or Julian Blanc are exceptionally strong people.

They are definitely mentally one of the most strongest people.

Julien was the most hated man in the world, and he is standing strong despite all that. Owen has been cancelled multiple times pretty hard too.

[Onecirrus]

1 hour ago, Miguel1 said:

They are definitely mentally one of the most strongest people.

Julien was the most hated man in the world, and he is standing strong despite all that. Owen has been cancelled multiple times pretty hard too.

I don’t know, they both promote lifestyles of hedonism and weakness. They wouldn’t know strength if I hit them over the head with it. If your skin isn’t on the line, you ain’t strong. But your entitled to your opinion.

[Leo Gura]

You don't need to be strong, you just need to talk to thousands of women.

It's like you are arguing over which podcaster is strongest. It doesn't matter. What matters how many clicks they get.

Edited June 20 by Leo Gura

[RawJudah]

38 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need to be strong, you just need to talk to thousands of women.

It's like you are arguing over which podcaster is strongest. It doesn't matter. What matters how many clicks they get.

I’m 31. Too late to talk to thousands of women?

[Onecirrus]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need to be strong, you just need to talk to thousands of women.

It's like you are arguing over which podcaster is strongest. It doesn't matter. What matters how many clicks they get.

I tried for quite a long time but never closed, but I did get into a fight and thrown out of a party. I’d like to move to Vegas and try it again one day.

[Puer Aeternus]

4 minutes ago, RawJudah said:

I’m 31. Too late to talk to thousands of women?

Mate you could literally do that in a year or two if you're living in a reasonably large city and not working crazy hours a week.

[RawJudah]

2 minutes ago, Puer Aeternus said:

Mate you could literally do that in a year or two if you're living in a reasonably large city and not working crazy hours a week.

I might have to. It’s got to the point where I have to change my entire life. Living in a town in England isn’t getting me anywhere. Everyone knows each other. There isn’t anyone new to meet. I can see that if I don’t do something, I’ll end up seriously regretting it. 

[Princess Arabia]

10 hours ago, Salvijus said:

I think you need to have "main character" vibes to score. B

Another 'woman are the prize' comment.

[Onecirrus]

@Princess Arabia Why do so many main characters have more than one prize? Prize must not be all that to them

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Onecirrus said:

@Princess Arabia Why do so many main characters have more than one prize? Prize must not be all that to them

Wouldn't you try to get all the prizes you can get. I'm not saying women are the prize all on their own but to men they are. Still not saying that without men they aren't but no one is anything without a relation. The dynamic leaves women to be the prize, Score? Isn't that a prize. 

[Onecirrus]

@Princess Arabia I guess the woman usually gets the better end of the deal. We have to put in like 1000% more effort to get even mediocre results. But what about Charles Manson? These girls ruined their lives for him