How women manipulate men

[Natasha Tori Maru]

7 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

"women don't like men who whine about their problems online"

Translation: Shut the fuck up don't talk about your issues. And if you do talk about your issues, politely, eloquently, I'm allowed to dismiss you and gaslight you about them.

Give me a fucking break

Do you understand the definition for the word 'whine'?

In its definition, it emphasizes a complaint about a problem that is within your control to take action. Fix.

Again, you need to reframe this. You do have the internal control to influence your situation @SwiftQuill. I personally do want you to see this.

Consider this your break

[Puer Aeternus]

52 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

It's obnoxious. I can't discuss these topics almost anywhere. On reddit, on r/vent and r/loneliness and all of those vent subreddits, all of them censor you for it. And on most mental health support groups they don't allow it. And any group that exists for men to discuss their issues is always "manosphere" no matter if it's actually quite healthy.

Yanno what boss, ya ain't wrong on that. And you reminded me that I've got to do a lot better at that, I've been slacking off lately.

 

It'd be better to have discussions in good faith, more open. Folks could actually come to an understanding of each other and sort things out, even if they didn't agree. 

 

Lots of shutting someone down and denying them even a single braincell of effort in understanding. It only causes agitation and mental doubling down of the problem. Then where do the men go? To manosphere and  similar communities opposite the spectrum where they can actually discuss these things.

 

Need more effort and understanding than dunking on/debating and labeling/banning. I could toss you the "correct" answers.. or what seems to be, to me. But they end up not doing jack, because they lack context to your actual situation.

 

That being said, respectfully. I do think you may SOMETIMES put worse intentions on some of the forum members than they really have. Not saying you don't have your reasons though! 

 

[Kid A]

"I've had some bad experiences on Reddit, so now I have a free pass to behave like a bitter and hateful asshole."

And I thought I was immature…

[something_else]

6 hours ago, SwiftQuill said:

It's obnoxious. I can't discuss these topics almost anywhere. On reddit, on r/vent and r/loneliness and all of those vent subreddits, all of them censor you for it. And on most mental health support groups they don't allow it. And any group that exists for men to discuss their issues is always "manosphere" no matter if it's actually quite healthy.

Then the issue is definitely your tone. I see posts about loneliness and male mental health on Reddit all the time, and usually the comments are very supportive, unless the poster comes across like a fuckwit.

So if even on reddit you’re not getting support, I’m sorry, but it’s on you.

I may have been a bit harsh in my wording in my last post, but I stand by the core of what I said.

Edited May 24 by something_else

[koops]

9 hours ago, gengar said:

Blackpill ideology is a trap, but there are many truths about it.

At the bottom line, Women's suffrage, liberation and economic empowerment sliced the romantic and sexual propects of men in half. And that's just the hard truth about it.

The reason men fall in these traps is because nothing is done in education to educate about your prospects as a man. Noone in school tells you that chances are pretty high you're unsuccessful and how to cope with that and still live your life.

We are fed propaganda from a young age about love being iffy diffy and that there's a soulmate out there for everyone.

Classic Lib mythology.

Well, thats reality nowadays. There is no point fighting against societal changes. Just adapting to them.

And you must educate yourself. You have infinite free education on youtube and millions of books in amazon at 10$.

Go deep on how to improve as a man, understanding male-female dynamics and sexual polarity.

There is no way around that.

 

[Kid A]

11 minutes ago, something_else said:

Then the issue is definitely your tone. I see posts about loneliness and male mental health on Reddit all the time, and usually the comments are very supportive, unless the poster comes across like a fuckwit.

So if even on reddit you’re not getting support, I’m sorry, but it’s on you.

I may have been a bit harsh in my wording in my last post, but I stand by the core of what I said.

To be fair: Reddit is not the nicest place to be. Pretty much all the subs there are echo chambers with very little tolerance for different perspectives.
I created my first Reddit thread the other day, which was just an honest, completely non-offensive question, and I got a lot of downvotes for no apparent reason…

[something_else]

11 minutes ago, Kid A said:

To be fair: Reddit is not the nicest place to be. Pretty much all the subs there are echo chambers with very little tolerance for different perspectives.
I created my first Reddit thread the other day, which was just an honest, completely non-offensive question, and I got a lot of downvotes for no apparent reason…

Yea, you’re right. It varies a lot depending on the sub. Generally you have to pick the right place to post and you’ll be alright. 

[The Caretaker]

4 hours ago, Kid A said:

To be fair: Reddit is not the nicest place to be. Pretty much all the subs there are echo chambers with very little tolerance for different perspectives.
I created my first Reddit thread the other day, which was just an honest, completely non-offensive question, and I got a lot of downvotes for no apparent reason…

I use Reddit mostly for technical or vibe feedback. If it can pass their tolerance test, then it's ready for a softer audience 😹.

But yeah, even this forum can be harsh at times, so it's expected that less conscious forums will be much worse.

[AION]

12 hours ago, SwiftQuill said:

"women don't like men who whine about their problems online"

Translation: Shut the fuck up don't talk about your issues. And if you do talk about your issues, politely, eloquently, I'm allowed to dismiss you and gaslight you about them.

Give me a fucking break

Any advice that tells you to not be yourself is bogus advice. Because if you play the mask game you won’t grow as a person but just optimize for fakery.

Like don’t whine, don’t be desperate, don’t act needy because she won’t like that. Fuck what she likes. Start respecting yourself. Self respect is most attractive thing and you shouldn’t have self respect because it is attractive but because it is authentic self respect without a calculated thing. 

Edited May 24 by AION

[Emerald]

@AION @SwiftQuill It's unwise to succumb to victim's mentality. And the narrative in this video just takes men's insecurities and feeds them right into a victim's mentality narrative, where these insecurities can never be properly resolved.

With victim's mentality, a person scapegoats and villainizes an individual or group (in this case, the scapegoated group is women) and blames them for their problems.

This enables the person in victim's mentality to avoid taking personal responsibility for their own issues by giving them a person or group to blame and shovel off responsibility onto.

But it also enables them to engage in the "drama triangle story" (of victim, hero, villain), where they play the role of victim and cast the scapegoat (in this case women) as the villain. And then, they crusade as the hero by doing villainous things to try to harm or defeat the scapegoat/villain.

And people who don't like engaging in drama will notice this going on and will be intuitively repelled from the person who's engaging in the victim narrative.

[AION]

@Emeraldthose are some good points 

[Carl-Richard]

How many IQ points did I just lose from just glancing at that chart?

[Schizophonia]

33 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

How many IQ points did I just lose from just glancing at that chart?

Lol

[Schizophonia]

If I were handicapped by my physique in relationships i would simply do aesthetic surgery.

Then everything else can be changed.