I think I might have destroyed my life completely.

[theleelajoker]

3 hours ago, inFlow said:

Once you FULLY no longer care about this dream you can leave it consciously.

@inFlow

I am very curious. How do you come to this conclusion? 

I kind of have a similar idea, there were two moments in my life where I felt that I dissolve, that I leave the world if I completely let go now.  First time I only got scared. Second time I got scared and I clearly felt the one thing I am attached to, the one thing keeping me here. (Was scared to never see my gf again)

First time I was on weed other time simple meditation. Since then I ponder if there is indeed an exit door I can take. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, integral said:

If Hitler was saying all the things Sadhguru was saying, I would still learn

The problem is saying a lot of constructive and interesting things only to introduce little bugs that subjugate you, that nullify you. That's how the devil acts, disguised as kindness.

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, inFlow said:

If you are attached to the this dream, you hold on to it, it doesn't hold you in it. Once you FULLY no longer care about this dream you can leave it consciously.

 The key is seeing that who about it's reality is a structure, a node of consciousness. What sees this is the structure itself. So through it, the whole shines through. So the structure sees that it's veiling the whole. So, it can disappear when the time is right without resistance. Because it realizes that everything it loves about this structure is a reflection of the whole. Everything is in the whole, your girlfriend, your mother , the blue sky. Nothing is missing, it's everything. 

[Schizophonia]

33 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 The key is seeing that who about it's reality is a structure, a node of consciousness. What sees this is the structure itself. So through it, the whole shines through. So the structure sees that it's veiling the whole. So, it can disappear when the time is right without resistance. Because it realizes that everything it loves about this structure is a reflection of the whole. Everything is in the whole, your girlfriend, your mother , the blue sky. Nothing is missing, it's everything. 

You mean the dream always contains everything ?

[theleelajoker]

34 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 The key is seeing that who about it's reality is a structure, a node of consciousness. What sees this is the structure itself. So through it, the whole shines through. So the structure sees that it's veiling the whole. So, it can disappear when the time is right without resistance. Because it realizes that everything it loves about this structure is a reflection of the whole. Everything is in the whole, your girlfriend, your mother , the blue sky. Nothing is missing, it's everything. 

Knowing this, what keeps you here?

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

You mean the dream always contains everything ?

The experience is not a dream, it's relationship of the infinity with itself, it's impossible that there is no relationship because there are not limits so there are infinite perspectives. Any perspective contains the total of course, because the only possibility for a perspective is the reality reflecting in itself 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, theleelajoker said:

Knowing this, what keeps you here?

I see it through the density of my structure. I have a ton of work to do, a path to follow to the end, like anyone else. 

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The experience is not a dream, it's relationship of the infinity with itself, it's impossible that there is no relationship because there are not limits so there are infinite perspectives. Any perspective contains the total of course, because the only possibility for a perspective is the reality reflecting in itself 

So life as it seems to be right now is infinity observed from an infinitely small point (in infinity); like a magnifying glass but inverted?

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

So life as it seems to be right now is infinity observed from an infinitely small point (in infinity); like a magnifying glass but inverted?

The reality turns on itself and "looks" at itself, that is, if there is a fluctuation, a change, there must be two separate realities changing states with respect to each other. If this didn't happen, there would be nothing. This happens because there are no limits, so at some point, this happens. "Some point" is always, because the absence of change is "never." If this happens inevitably, as we see, it happens unlimitedly, that is, infinitely. This doesn't happen from a point, since there are no points before movement. Movement always exists and is always infinite, and it never stops. The total power of infinity is given by its limitlessness. Infinite multiverses flowing over themselves infinitely. They are all the same, reality creating forms, relating to itself in an inevitable way. The perspective that is me now looking at a phone is composed of infinite perspectives superimposed at infinite angles, the same as any other, that of a fly or that of an energetic vibration. All in essence, they are the same, total reality. You can access it at any time. A fly can't do that because it's completely focused on form. A human functions on another level. It's another phase in which reality can turn on itself and look beyond form.

[inFlow]

@theleelajoker I do a lot of yoga and kriya yoga and often do pranayama practices. These things that im talking about I grasped being sober. I noticed that I'm no longer interested in some things that previously I was. And it feels like it anchors the body/mind to this reality really hard. Once I noticed, I felt myself being very liquid sort of, less bound to this reality. After that I just looked around what keeps "me" locked in here and intuitively understood that one day, by the help of all these practices, you will clean yourself so much that nothing will hold you here anymore, you will not be anchored by anything and you will sort of leave this place in what is called "mahasamadhi" and the more I practice sadhana the more plausible it seems. Your belief of this reality is what keeps you on here. It feels like I still believe this dream is important and that I have shit to do, that's why it's still there. And my belief with my own direct experience is that by bypassing these beliefs or destroying them through practice is what will get me there.

[theleelajoker]

@inFlow

@Breakingthewall 

Thx your replies. I have similar experiences and impressions. For me it seems to be a lot about letting go of conditioned practices, rules, patterns etc. Literally gaining liberation by being and acting more and more free in this world. 

Curious where this will lead to. Wishing you (and all others) the best and lot's of fun on the journey! I neglected that a long time but the journey and this world here is supposed to be fun here, isn't it? At least I hope...

Edited Tuesday at 07:34 PM by theleelajoker

[inFlow]

@theleelajoker yes, letting go of everything is key. Even practices has to be let go of when you sit down for deep contemplation. Detaching is a skill that has to be strengthened. And yes it's supposed to be fun, but being attached gives you conditional "happiness", strive for that unattached, unconditional happiness. 🙏🤍

[theleelajoker]

2 hours ago, inFlow said:

@theleelajoker yes, letting go of everything is key. Even practices has to be let go of when you sit down for deep contemplation. Detaching is a skill that has to be strengthened. And yes it's supposed to be fun, but being attached gives you conditional "happiness", strive for that unattached, unconditional happiness. 🙏🤍

Fully aligned with my experience 🙏❤️