What is experience?

[UnbornTao]

I wanted to start a shared contemplation with you: 

What is experience? 

[Sugarcoat]

Experience is the sense that there is something going on, something existing. And that sense comes about because there’s a sense of a self. So sense of self creates sense of something, of experience Experience of something= sense of something 

Something along those lines is what I think. It’s based on my own experiences 

Very deep interesting topic 

Edited April 21 by Sugarcoat

[Yimpa]

Just now, Yimpa said:

 

[Osaid]

What isn't experience?

[ChrisZoZo]

My thought, Experience is actually the opposite of what you would expect. It’s absolutely everything all at once cut down to not have absolutely everything all at once but a perceived something. though  absolutely everything all at once is also an experience so there is nothing that is not an experience. 
 

define something that’s not an experience.

[Someone here]

It's this . It cannot be defined. Since a definition implies there is something else other than experience..while experience is all there is . It's the UnbornTao 

[Breakingthewall]

Experience is the perception of the change 

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Experience is the perception of the change 

I know we already talked about it but you mean we can’t perceive complete stillness?

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

I know we already talked about it but you mean we can’t perceive complete stillness?

It's impossible because without movement there is no "happening", no time. But stillness is impossible because now it's movement, then it's stillness, then it's movement again. So where is the stillness? Nowhere , never happened, because it's nothing. The movement is absolute because it's contrary, the stillness, is nothing. It's an absence not something with a reality. Absence is always covered by presence, because there are not limits, so at the end the movement will happen, and "at the end" is always. 

Maybe someone could say: "in deep meditation i reach the stillness" . Sure, when infinite movements are happening in you, infinite quantum vibrations synchronized at infinite power, and the guy believes that by not thinking for a while he has reached "stillness"

[Breakingthewall]

The real question would be: what is perception? Perception implies a subject who perceives and an object that changes, but perception is really movement itself, that is, perception is reality. Perception is only the apparently dual structure of reality now, in which there is a subject who receives information, but that subject only exists if that information exists; without it, it disappears. Therefore, the subject is the object. The fact that there are two apparent layers of reality, that which is perceived and the perception, means nothing since there are infinite layers of reality, and all of them are reality.

So, the question: what is experience? The answer would be: the reality.

And here someone could say: reality is a dream and you are god dreaming the reality. Wrong.  Reality is reality and you are that, there is not difference, not dreamer and dream, reality is, you are. That's it. 

Edited April 21 by Breakingthewall

[gettoefl]

Experience is rapid fire snap-shots of the absolute, experienced by the absolute.

Me is looking upon I am.

And I look on it and say, it is good, according to Genesis 1. 

God looks on itself by imagining falsely limiting itself and returns to true experience of itself by remembering itself.

[Breakingthewall]

So the question would be: What is reality? Reality is the absence of limits, which results in synchronous movements or changes of state to the infinite potential, aka absolute being.

The fact that perception takes one vibration as a model to construct another vibration or manifestation of reality is the intertwining of infinite changes of state in infinite layers absolutely synchronized with each other.

What we call enlightenment is completely opening the focus that is closed in concrete movement and capturing the nature or essence of reality that is absence of limits. Capturing means being; there is no subject who captures, but a reality that opens.

The infinite being is exactly the same: closed as open, but closed, it is limited, enclosed. Opening is liberation; it's like a natural process that occurs when the vibration reaches a certain frequency. You don't realize you are enlightened; you are enlightenment. Then you return to closed density. The change in frequency is evolutionary, a gradual process, like an ascending graph with a constant high and low undulation.

Edited April 21 by Breakingthewall

[Sugarcoat]

The reason you have a sense of having an experience, of something going on is because you have a self. Period. I’ve been in states of near total self dissolution naturally that I barely can talk about with anyone because it’s so strange. And in those states the world has almost no 3D depth, it’s the self that creates that 3D depth that space sense. Sense of time too, sense of continuity, sense of something going on at all. All becuase you have a self, if it was reduced or gone you’d understand 

[Ishanga]

8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

The reason you have a sense of having an experience, of something going on is because you have a self. Period. I’ve been in states of near total self dissolution naturally that I barely can talk about with anyone because it’s so strange. And in those states the world has almost no 3D depth, it’s the self that creates that 3D depth that space sense. Sense of time too, sense of continuity, sense of something going on at all. All becuase you have a self, if it was reduced or gone you’d understand 

This is correct, Experience is everything, we experience no experience too while in Deep Sleep, Subjectively everything is within You this Self of sorts, to deny the Self is to deny Experience and therefore Existence and Life itself which is a major misnomer on the Spiritual path but many fall into this trap that nothing exists, nothing is happening, no one exists or only I exist and these sorts of things..

Experience is mostly coming from the basic 5 senses synthesized in the Brain but there are other levels of Experience not using those senses and have to be strived for, we are given the basic 5 to survive another day combined with our superior Intellect, but this is Survival level only which most are living on, strive for more (beyond simple accumulation of ppl, places and things) and it will be shown to You as this is what it means to be Human! 

[Leo Gura]

Just sit and look at your hand.

That is experience. That is Truth. That is God. That is Infinity. That is Love.

Shut up and look.

Edited April 21 by Leo Gura

[Breakingthewall]

20 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

The reason you have a sense of having an experience, of something going on is because you have a self. Period. I’ve been in states of near total self dissolution naturally that I barely can talk about with anyone because it’s so strange. And in those states the world has almost no 3D depth, it’s the self that creates that 3D depth that space sense. Sense of time too, sense of continuity, sense of something going on at all. All becuase you have a self, if it was reduced or gone you’d understand 

When you were 1 year old  was an experience and you hadn't sense of self, there is only experience. Same if you were an ant. There is experience, but not sense of self. The sense of self exist because the experience creates it. It's the consequence not the cause

Edited April 21 by Breakingthewall

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

When you were 1 year old you had an experience and you hadn't sense of self, there is only experience. Same if you were an ant. There is experience, but not sense of self. 

How do you know baby has experience? And ant. We have no memory of being baby could as we’ll have been nothing 

Edited April 21 by Sugarcoat

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

How do you know baby has experience? And ant. We have no memory of being baby could as we’ll have been nothing 

I remember when I was a baby more or less, 1,5 years. And I can reach states without self, it's not so difficult, it's when the duality perceptor/perception collapses and only the reality is. You could do with psychedelics or sober, that's the key to change the vibration and open the limits. Then you understand what the self is. It's not false or illusion, it's a configuration of the reality, a kind of structure that really is taking now

[Sugarcoat]

10 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I remember when I was a baby more or less, 1,5 years. And I can reach states without self, it's not so difficult, it's when the duality perceptor/perception collapses and only the reality is. You could do with psychedelics or sober, that's the key to change the vibration and open the limits. Then you understand what the self is. It's not false or illusion, it's a configuration of the reality, a kind of structure that really is taking now

But don’t the first memory come from when a self had formed? I don’t remember before that

yea I see the self as a structure too. 
 

With no duality between preceptor and perception wouldn’t that be same as nothing

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

But don’t the first memory come from when a self had formed? I don’t remember before that

yea I see the self as a structure too. 
 

With no duality between preceptor and perception wouldn’t that be same as nothing

The self is formed by the concrete configuration of this dimension of reality , but it is not a requirement for experience to exist. Imagine you have brain surgery and become retarded, and your memory is zero and your intellectual capacity is zero, but you continue receiving sensory information. Reality is colors, changes of state, physical sensations, in a continuous present moment. Even if your memory of what happened one second ago disappears, the ripple is occurring. In the pure present, there is movement, sensation. You know nothing, not even that you are alive, nor what absolutely anything means, only sensations, forms, movement. That is experience, that is reality, only in a simpler state, but it's quality is the same than our experience, only that our experience has another level of complexity