Treat Women Like Children

[Leo Gura]

30 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Still a judgement you stand by. Smart of you to elude the question.

It's amusing to me that the women here feel so strongly it's a judgment.

Women interpret a harsh truth as an attack because it disregards feelings.

Which beautifully proves the central point of this whole thread.

Bottom line is: talk about serious truths with women and you will absolutely regret it, because what they care about is feelings, not your truth.

Edited April 6 by Leo Gura

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

This ain't the middle east.

Oh nevermind I just got the impression that I'm actually in  Saudi Arabia right now .

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, integral said:

Regardless of how you got yourself into the mess of an abusive relationship which was likely not your fault it is now your responsibility to get yourself out of it.

He said the "abusive relations happens when one is irresponsible"..... Not when one stays....

[Emerald]

11 minutes ago, aurum said:

I still kind of am. It just needs to be balanced.

It's a nuanced issue.

In the past, men have made mistakes both being too authoritarian and being too egalitarian. I'm interested in helping guys to correct both of those.

I don't see it as a binary scale like that which is meant to be consistent. It's more like modes to be shifted in and out of so that it feels good to both partners... or even colors to paint with.

And I guess that there are some people who really want some kind of a bdsm dynamic to play out in all parts of their lives... like the people who like to live as each other's pets and slaves and stuff like that.

But to me, the power deferential is only enjoyable if it's a pattern interrupt from the otherwise egalitarian relationship. Otherwise, it just feels stagnant and boring... and stifling.

But regardless of what people prefer, you have to have the foundation of commonality and friendship to have an intimate relationship. Otherwise, it's just a power dynamic.

[MsNobody]

A thread of men being overly emotional about women who are emotional  

 

[Emerald]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No. I stand by my statement.

It's harsh but truthful. Which is exactly the kinda thing women dislike.

Why do you have to be sexist about it?

Just stop being so judgmental all the time... and you might learn something.  

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Abusive relationships happen to irresponisible people

That's the difference. "Happens".

[Terell Kirby]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's amusing to me that the women here feel so strongly it's a judgment.

Women feeling strongly about something? No way .. 

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, MsNobody said:

A thread of men being overly emotional about women who are emotional  

 

Lol

[integral]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

He said the "abusive relations happens when one is irresponsible"..... Not when one stays....

He said "boiling frog", it implies an abusive man will put a mask to Swindle you into a relationship, so its starts off good.

[Emerald]

28 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Emerald I think you need to relax a little bit and stop playing Tom & Jerry with Leo.

Which one am I? Tom or Jerry?

[Someone here]

10 minutes ago, MsNobody said:

@Someone here yes we all need to relax. You go first  

I don’t see her roasting anyone, she has been extremely respectful and quite logical for a woman.

 

No.  ladies first 😎. 

You see ..I'm a sucker for Leo.  .I do believe Leo is one of the few people in human history who actually got the fucking clue .you can sense that by listening to him . Now Emerald is trying to roast Leo's bald head with a sniper...and I have to side with Leo like a good little fanboy 😂. 

. Had someone mentioned me in another thread my response probably would have been different. 

Honestly im getting sick and tired by all this talk about masculine and feminine More simply put..it feels amazing not to talk shit about yourself and focus on abstract nonsense. 

[Emerald]

14 minutes ago, integral said:

He's talking about taking 100% responsibility for your life. Which is a core self development concept.

Regardless of how you got yourself into the mess of an abusive relationship which was likely not your fault it is now your responsibility to get yourself out of it.

If you are ignorant and don't understand your own mechanisms that are keeping you in that relationship or if you don't even recognize that you're in abusive relationship these are all aspects of your own lack of self-awareness and development.

None of this is "your fault", none of this is "blame", it's just what it is. your lack of development hit reality in a way where you got hurt.

Like you said you learn from your mistakes which is responsibility and you didn't make that mistake again.

I literally said this earlier int he thread... and how taking responsibility for learning from these kinds of situations is important.

But that's different than blame and judgment.

I just think you like to argue for no reason.

[integral]

1 minute ago, Emerald said:

I literally said this earlier int he thread... and how taking responsibility for learning from these kinds of situations is important.

But that's different than blame and judgment.

So leo was not victim blaming? I'm glad we agree? lol

1 minute ago, Emerald said:

I just think you like to argue for no reason.

I guess we have something in common?  

Edited April 6 by integral

[Someone here]

6 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Which one am I? Tom or Jerry?

Well since jerry is usually the one who outsmarts Tom ..you'd be Tom. Even though it seems like jerry is more feminine than Tom.

 

[Emerald]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

No.  ladies first 😎. 

You see ..I'm a sucker for Leo.  .I do believe Leo is one of the few people in human history who actually got the fucking clue .you can sense that by listening to him . Now Emerald is trying to roast Leo's bald head with a sniper...and I have to side with Leo like a good little fanboy 😂. 

. Had someone mentioned me in another thread my response probably would have been different. 

Honestly im getting sick and tired by all this talk about masculine and feminine More simply put..it feels amazing not to talk shit about yourself and focus on abstract nonsense. 

Leo has a lot of really deep perspectives on many topics... but women, Femininity, and relationships are topics that he's fairly shallow in his understanding of.

But that's mostly because he's not really interested in exploring the topic more deeply... as he doesn't see the value in it beyond basic pick-up stuff.

I just wish that he wouldn't speak on it like such an authority when he understands to little on the topic. I would leave him alone if he wasn't doing that.

[Emerald]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

Well since jerry is usually the one who outsmarts Tom ..you'd be Tom. Even though it seems like jerry is more feminine than Tom.

And which cartoon character are you?

[gambler]

1 minute ago, Emerald said:

And which cartoon character are you?

He's Krillin from Dragonball Z.

 

[RendHeaven]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's amusing to me that the women here feel so strongly it's a judgment.

Women interpret a harsh truth as an attack because it disregards feelings.

Which beautiful proves the central point of this whole thread.

Bottom line is: talk about serious truths with women and you will absolutely regret it.

Yup that's a mic drop

[aurum]

19 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I don't see it as a binary scale like that which is meant to be consistent. It's more like modes to be shifted in and out of so that it feels good to both partners... or even colors to paint with.

Such a woman response