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Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

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On 5/21/2026 at 2:16 PM, Rafael Thundercat said:

You'd think for such a small country / population + global negative opinion about that country / population = they'd learn to tone down or hide their behaviour / rhetoric a little better. The ratio of negative content : population is ridiculous , its like they haven't learnt anything or simply double down ie '' the world hates us, its true they are anti-semitic, fuck it lets be genocidal ''

 

 

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@zazen This is how collective stereotypes are formed. People see violent groups and extreme rhetoric and start generalizing outwards. Israelis sometimes do this towards Palestinians (as we see here in your videos), Europeans sometimes do this towards Israelis, and your message does this too. This is just human nature. And no, Youtube is not a reliable way to understand a country or society. For that you need much deeper exposure than videos and preference-driven algorithms.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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I admit I do it too sometimes for example towards the Ultra Orthodox in my country, though in other times when I succeed better to separate, I try to remind myself that five years ago when I had a bad time, before I knew better how to help myself with my own ways, I went to CBT therapist who is Ultraorthodox that has a degree on Social Work and had much more open therapeutic view than the common protocols (like really he had regular approach but plus more things) and two years before that I heard about another one who do webiners on NLP with also kind of cutting edge Yellow thinking and writing here right now really helps me to hold the position that there are probably many Ultraorthodox in many spiral stages even if the majority are gravitate towards Blue but this is only in gross averages.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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7 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

I admit I do it too sometimes for example towards the Ultra Orthodox in my country, though in other times I try to remind myself that five years ago when I had a bad time, before knew better, I went myself to CBT therapy with an Ultraorthodox person that has a degree on Social Work and had much more open therapeutic view than "regular" therapists (like really he had regular approach but plus more things) and two years before that I heard about another one who do webiners on NLP with also kind of cutting edge Yellow thinking and writing here right now really helps me to hold the position that there are probably many Ultraorthodox in many spiral stages even if the majority are gravitate towards Blue but this is only in gross averages.

Yes, I noticed it too in some Ultra-Orthodox people. While there are those who are fanatical and very red-blue, the reality is that they are not all similar and are often a combination of a few spiral dynamic states.

I have Ultra-Orthodox neighbors who smoke weed, listen to psychedelic trance music, and are sort of hippies, but are also Ultra-Orthodox. This is interesting.


Perhaps you would be better off finding some way to embrace your new nature, instead of fighting it.

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Many of Israel's atrocities, not all obviously, are being documented in an archive with images, their geolocalizations, and descriptions.

https://archivegenocide.com/

 

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This is a good report by channel 5.

The million dolar question: How can they make peace with each other?


I am the impossible made reality.

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It's weird to me how in the spirituality forum, the state of discussion is about how we're all solipsistic instances of consciousness, and reality is a reflection of us etc etc, and then over here in the politics forum it's just basic bitch opinions from the Arab street.

Anyway, taking into account an advanced understanding of God consciousness, Palestinian statehood cannot exist or survive in the current state. Palestinian identity such as it is, is an identity of victimhood and self-pity, and these are emotions that cannot survive or sustain themselves on their own. 

Let's say that Palestinians do achieve statehood out of the current situation. It will be a national identity of weakness, which was bestowed upon them by foreign powers who really held the power. A nationality bestowed upon them from without, not from within themselves. An identity they'd have to wake up every day and know, they are the weaker ones. They couldn't do it on their own, they had to rely on Israel, the United States, Europe, giving them permission to exist, out of the sheer amount of self-pity they live under. There's no capital-L Love in that.

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11 minutes ago, thedoorsareopen said:

It's weird to me how in the spirituality forum, the state of discussion is about how we're all solipsistic instances of consciousness, and reality is a reflection of us etc etc, and then over here in the politics forum it's just basic bitch opinions from the Arab street.

Anyway, taking into account an advanced understanding of God consciousness, Palestinian statehood cannot exist or survive in the current state. Palestinian identity such as it is, is an identity of victimhood and self-pity, and these are emotions that cannot survive or sustain themselves on their own. 

Let's say that Palestinians do achieve statehood out of the current situation. It will be a national identity of weakness, which was bestowed upon them by foreign powers who really held the power. A nationality bestowed upon them from without, not from within themselves. An identity they'd have to wake up every day and know, they are the weaker ones. They couldn't do it on their own, they had to rely on Israel, the United States, Europe, giving them permission to exist, out of the sheer amount of self-pity they live under. There's no capital-L Love in that.

There isn’t a bigger victim card than the Jew card played by Israelis and the white Europeans who colonized the land. 

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@Lyubov Jews were persecuted for centuries until the situation reached a breaking point and had to come to an end. That process created new problems and injustices for the Palestinians and those also need to be resolved. Both sides deserve a solution that will bring justice to both.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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