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[JTL]

@Leo Gura 

In the Psychedelic Visualizations video you posted on your blog, I have a question — maybe two. Are you saying that when someone takes a psychedelic, they see the world as it truly is — that reality is non-material? If that's the case, does it mean that when someone on a hard drug like meth hallucinates, their hallucinations are also "more real" than normal perception?

For example, if I were standing next to someone taking a psychedelic and filmed everything around us, the camera would just capture the normal world, right?

Basically, my question is: if these experiences only happen inside the person's mind, how can you know you're not just hallucinating — similar to how a person on the street might see ghosts while high?

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, aurum said:

But I don't get the sense this guy has really grasped himself as God.

That is a projection of yours that can be questioned.

Stop focusing on if others grasp God. Only YOU!

Where is this need to control how God should be coming from?

Edited April 28 by Yimpa

[aurum]

3 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

That is a projection of yours that can be questioned.

Stop focusing on if others grasp God. Only YOU!

It matters from a pragmatic, teaching POV.

If I posted a video of some rambling fool and said they grasped God, that would confuse a lot of people and lead them down the wrong path.

So yes, ultimately grasping God is for you. But assessing teachings still matters.

[Leo Gura]

27 minutes ago, JTL said:

@Leo Gura 

In the Psychedelic Visualizations video you posted on your blog, I have a question — maybe two. Are you saying that when someone takes a psychedelic, they see the world as it truly is — that reality is non-material? If that's the case, does it mean that when someone on a hard drug like meth hallucinates, their hallucinations are also "more real" than normal perception?

For example, if I were standing next to someone taking a psychedelic and filmed everything around us, the camera would just capture the normal world, right?

Basically, my question is: if these experiences only happen inside the person's mind, how can you know you're not just hallucinating — similar to how a person on the street might see ghosts while high?

You're missing the point. Everything is a hallucination, whether you are on a psychedelic or not. The psychedelic just makes it more obvious.

[Yimpa]

[JTL]

45 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You're missing the point. Everything is a hallucination, whether you are on a psychedelic or not. The psychedelic just makes it more obvious.

I see. So, psychedelics only change the person's perception, not the thing itself. But I guess there would have to be someone else present to perceive it differently/ as before the psychedelics/normal.

[Leo Gura]

@JTL The world is God's hallucination.

[Soul_Guy]

@Leo Gura

In response to your post about Exorcist Fantasies, I’ve been reflecting on how many so-called “Christian fantasies” might actually be real energetic or emotional experiences - just filtered through a particular lens.

What someone interprets as a “demonic exorcism” could just as easily be seen as the release of stuck emotions or trauma. I’ve gone through intense emotional purges myself that felt like exorcisms - so I get why someone might describe it that way.

But here’s the thing: calling it “trauma release” is also just another interpretive frame. Who’s to say one lens is more valid than the other? Perhaps they’re all just metaphors - different ways of pointing to the same ineffable human experiences. And some people will resonate more with "demonic exorcism" - some will resonate more with "trauma release".

[Aaron p]

On 28/04/2025 at 9:09 PM, Leo Gura said:

You're missing the point. Everything is a hallucination, whether you are on a psychedelic or not. The psychedelic just makes it more obvious.

@JTL 

Sure even main stream materialism/realism/physicalism postulates that our waking experience is a brain created copy of a world that we will never, ever see. Mainstream science and materialism holds that our waking reality is constructed by electromagnetic activity in the brain. So, thats where we start. That's where cutting edge neuroscience is now. I'm not making it up. Current cutting edge neuroscience claims that your waking experience of your body, your car, your house, your family is all rendered, in incredible resolution, by electrical signals in the brain. 

Notice this: you exist. Right? Ok, so it's kinda normal to ask the question: what is everything? Your options are:

1- Materialism - Your reality is a brain constructed copy of the real world beyond your senses. (This is mostly the normal, mainstream scientific stance today). What is "real" isn't actually real, it's a copy.

2- Idealism - Your reality is not physical, it is made of mind, localises by the brain which itself is an illusion created by mind also. Your reality is direct, what you see is literally all there is...what is "real" is real, (reality is what it is). 

These are broadly speaking the only two choices that exist for you to choose from when attempting to answer the question "what is everything"

...either way, something verrrry fishy is going on. Contemplate the words "brain constructed copy" then contemplate that this is your starting point (normal science). 🐟

Edited April 30 by Aaron p

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Soul_Guy said:

But here’s the thing: calling it “trauma release” is also just another interpretive frame. Who’s to say one lens is more valid than the other?

It's not the same thing.

Believing that Jesus will save you from a demon is a fantasy.

Emotional trauma vs Jesus fighting demons is not the same level of imagination.

Edited May 1 by Leo Gura

[integral]

On 4/28/2025 at 4:38 PM, Yimpa said:

Reminds me of Half-Life 1

Edited April 30 by integral

[LordFall]

Have you thought about integrating web 3 and blockchain to your video games? I see the fundamental flaw of gaming as that its seperate from the real world economy and thus only can serve as escapism, entertainment and distraction. If you can make money from it though then it will become creative work and valuable exploration.

I spent so many thousands of hours in worlds made by random companies that now have my characters be useless. There are lessons I can reflect on but if I had NFTs to mark my progress and crypto money from it that would be life changing. 

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, LordFall said:

if I had NFTs to mark my progress and crypto money from it

Dear God no.

[Yimpa]

On 6/24/2023 at 11:08 PM, Yimpa said:

And what would happen if the voices said they were demons or spirits? Then what?

Quote

“The Devil’s genius and intelligence is awesome.” - Me 

 

[LordFall]

@Leo Gura But what's the thought process behind that hesitation? You know that an NFT is just a non fungible token, i.e. a unique piece of code that you can keep track of even 30 years from now as long as the blockchains are still there. 

Don't throw the baby out of the bathwater with the NFT art trend that was going huge in 2021, that was one small potential application of the technology.

If you like video games as an art medium, why wouldn't you want some real world utility to them? 

[integration journey]

The whistleblower UFO story was really fascinating, thanks for sharing Leo

[The Crocodile]

https://www.loudersound.com/features/killing-joke-inside-the-great-pyramid-at-giza

 

[Rafael Thundercat]

15 hours ago, Soul_Guy said:

@Leo Gura

In response to your post about Exorcist Fantasies, I’ve been reflecting on how many so-called “Christian fantasies” might actually be real energetic or emotional experiences - just filtered through a particular lens.

What someone interprets as a “demonic exorcism” could just as easily be seen as the release of stuck emotions or trauma. I’ve gone through intense emotional purges myself that felt like exorcisms - so I get why someone might describe it that way.

But here’s the thing: calling it “trauma release” is also just another interpretive frame. Who’s to say one lens is more valid than the other? Perhaps they’re all just metaphors - different ways of pointing to the same ineffable human experiences. And some people will resonate more with "demonic exorcism" - some will resonate more with "trauma release".

The difference is the one is creating  a fantasy of Others  of some entities that take possesion of someones body, the other trauma release is somatic, is recognizing the truth of what is going on in the body with no need of boggie monster and fear doctrine. I say this from 7 years observing some weird stuff in ayahuasca cerimonies. Some stuff even looks like possesions, but with time of observing the people getting " possesed" in ceremomies and hearing their sharing after is that many times the truth is that there is resistance to what the plant medicine is bringing up and then the nervous system reacts with spasm, glossolalia and shaking movements. Some people just lose their minds and looks like for who observe that they became puppets of some sort of entity. 

[Leo Gura]

The problem with all that demon-fighting is that it ends in you demonizing everything that doesn't conform to your biases or anything outside your paradigm.

It's a cartoonish level of self-deception. Anything the spiritual ego dislikes = demon. Communists? Demons. Gays? Demons. Palestinians? Demons. DMT? Demons. Aliens? Demons.

Edited May 1 by Leo Gura

[Davino]

Beautiful dragon illusion. I'd like to make one of those for my home.