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[Hojo]

Dissolutionment and Osho. In the blog leo post the video of Osho saying he was never disillusioned like Jesus, but I remeber him saying he predicts his own day he will die then didnt die on that day or even close.

 

Osho explicitly stated that whenever he left his body, it would happen on July 6. [1]

He addressed this specifically during a discourse, stating: [1, 2, 3]

"Whenever I die, I will die on the 6th of July. The year does not matter, but the 6th of July matters. I want it permanently to be the Master's day."

While he predicted the specific date, Osho actually passed away on January 19, 1990, at the age of 58 in Pune, India. His commune released a statement attributing his death to heart failure and complications from alleged poisoning during his time in US custody. [1, 2]

 

This puts up everything he says into question.

Edited yesterday at 08:17 PM by Hojo

[Hojo]

26 minutes ago, Nemra said:

It freaks me out when nightly dreams are as stable and detailed as waking life, but with a bit different physics. It's as if you hadn't even slept.

Another weird thing is those dream will effect your state in this dream and make it different.

If you have a good dream you like life will have a  different qualia than if you wake with a negative one.

And it will effect your reactions to life.

Dreams and nightmares acctually have a big part in how we see our reality, they will push us into negative or positive states.

Edited yesterday at 08:25 PM by Hojo

[AtmanIsBrahman]

The latest blog posts have been very insightful. Ontological relativity collapses into oneness, all anchor points must dissolve, you have no substance therefore you are God.

Beautiful stuff. It’s also cool to see that I actually understand some of this stuff now, whereas before they were mindfucks that may or may not be true.
 

Edited yesterday at 09:04 PM by AtmanIsBrahman

[Rafael Thundercat]

2 hours ago, Hojo said:

Another weird thing is those dream will effect your state in this dream and make it different.

If you have a good dream you like life will have a  different qualia than if you wake with a negative one.

And it will effect your reactions to life.

Dreams and nightmares acctually have a big part in how we see our reality, they will push us into negative or positive states.

I may be also due lack of Minerals and other causes as Parasites or Sickeness. See how your dreams goes by when you are in a fever state, see how your dreams change when you do a colon,liver cleanse or do a solo retreat not consuming content, sleeping well etc.. 

I was having nightmares for some time, and I decided was enogth. I did 2 days of Kambô cleanse and my dreams got clarity as well as my daily clarity,focus and sharpness of mind. 

[Joyboy]

Hi @Leo Gura, I'm a bit confused when I see "limit/finite" and "unlimit/infinite" terms being used. Do they mean the same thing, or is there a difference?

[Leo Gura]

47 minutes ago, Joyboy said:

Hi @Leo Gura, I'm a bit confused when I see "limit/finite" and "unlimit/infinite" terms being used. Do they mean the same thing, or is there a difference?

They are the same.

Finite = limited

Infinite = unlimited

[Davino]

On 674, I find it interesting that cats for example can't laugh, as we understand it, but birds do very clearly laugh.

One of my favourite memories with my bird is both laughing so much I started even crying. It's such a beautiful connection.

Edited 14 hours ago by Davino

[Davino]

17 hours ago, zurew said:

My genuine answer to most of your questions is that "I dont know".

That's an honest answer, thanks.

You were so adamant commenting others metaphysics that I was curious to know yours.

[Rafael Thundercat]

The distinction between Trump and a crocodile is not scientific, it is mental. Seeing Trump as a crocodile is just as valid as any other classification in science. That is not pre-rational, that is post-rational.

this is a big mind fuck. 

[Yimpa]

https://www.actualized.org/insights/florida-girl-eaten-by-crocodile

Self-deception and intelligence of survival:

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Yimpa

[zurew]

8 hours ago, Davino said:

You were so adamant commenting others metaphysics

Oh, sure.

I don't think I need to have definite answers to your questions in order to recognize language and conceptual games.

A lot of people will play specialty games in a way where conceptualization and trips will be  categorized as direct experience.

I've never had an issue admitting my limitations. If 99% of the people here were to rigorously go through and check each and every one of their affirmed propositions related to metaphysics—where only direct experience is categorized as knowledge, and inferences, conceptualization, and experience are not—then their honest answer would be, "I don't know," as well.

[UnbornTao]

3 hours ago, zurew said:

Oh, sure.

I don't think I need to have definite answers to your questions in order to recognize language and conceptual games.

A lot of people will play specialty games in a way where conceptualization and trips will be  categorized as direct experience.

I've never had an issue admitting my limitations. If 99% of the people here were to rigorously go through and check each and every one of their affirmed propositions related to metaphysics—where only direct experience is categorized as knowledge, and inferences, conceptualization, and experience are not—then their honest answer would be, "I don't know," as well.

For sure.

We can also get easily confused about what we're calling 'direct experience.' We already live as if our experience were absolute - that, for example, what we perceive has some kind of ultimate status when it comes to the nature of things.

It's also possible for us to, either deliberately or unconsciously, 'generate' experiences consistent with our mental input, knowledge base, assumptions, or whatever we want to call it.

I don't think that most propositions here, or rather, what they're based on, would stand if you were to take away conceptualization. Huge influence on our experience.

[Nick_98]

Leo , I'never asked your perspective before about heaven & hell. You said before that religion has a true essence which is god. and That people distorted that essence for their survival.

But what is your take when religion talk about concepts like heaven and hell ? Religion says there is an eternal paradise that you'll live in if you did follow religion and cared about GOD. what's ur take on that. 

On the other hand you will live eternally in hell if you did bad things in your life or things that contradicts the true essence of religion. 

In islam it is said that you will be revived, in a day called the day of JUSTICE , which is the day when justice is established over your doings in your life.

 

What is your take on all of that ? does that all have any true essence ? what do you think about it ?