Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, samijiben said:

How do you figure the dog dies before you pull the trigger?

This is not Einstein's physics. This is Gura's physics. 

 

 

9 minutes ago, samijiben said:

I also believe you are strawmanning the fuck out of Israel.

To call it a genocide is intellectual laziness. The issue is more nuanced than that. 

I call it ethnic cleansing. Which is what they explicitly say they do. Their own leaders say it. This is a matter of historical record, not opinion. Palestinians were and continue to be cleansed off that land. There's just no serious doubt that that's what Israeli settlement policy has always been. The settlers themselves admit it.

[LordFall]

21 minutes ago, samijiben said:

I also believe you are strawmanning the fuck out of Israel.

If savages came into your backyard, raping the women and burning the babies, what happens next?

To call it a genocide is intellectual laziness. The issue is more nuanced than that. 

Are you sure you're not projecting your own intellectual laziness?

Are they defending themselves or going above and beyond to release their anger and rage on innocent people and killing tens of thousands? 

[Hojo]

If you shoot something at the speed of light and it leaves the gun before firing does that mean you conserve all energy it takes to fire it.

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, isn't "true belief" oxymoronic or contradictory?

[Davino]

@Nemra You can believe something and that ending up to be true. In the same way you can believe something which ends up being false. The stage of true believe, I think it might point to the right presumption or intuitive without the revelatory experience.

For example, you believe 5meo could trigger an Awakening. However, you haven't tried it yet. That is most likely a true believe. Once you try it and have an Awakening, then it's experience.

That's what I think is trying to point out, but I'm not a Mahavira's or Jain scholar.

[Dayo]

3 hours ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, isn't "true belief" oxymoronic or contradictory?

True belief isn't just a belief. My interpretation is that it means an inner knowing. It is not mere belief like a fundamentalist. This is more profound and intuitive than that. 

[OBEler]

I studied business in st Petersburg for a while. The only thing I remember is that if you want to make business with Russians they need the feeling to win more than you in a deal. Just win win is not enough for them.

Edited September 1 by OBEler

[Nemra]

I have noticed that Russian comedy shows often end with a strange bit of patriotic messaging, and I haven’t seen them criticize the government.

[Nemra]

@Davino, well, I guess we have to differentiate between epistemic and metaphysical beliefs.

If by "true beliefs" is meant "true metaphysical beliefs", then I think it has to be contradictory, because when you believe that some part of reality is some way, then you have already made an assumption about that part without actually experiencing it.

It's like saying psychedelic trips are demonic without taking them. What it means to be demonic when assuming without taking it is different when you experience demonic stuff on psychedelics. Even then the beliefs could make the trip seem demonic.

Edited September 1 by Nemra

[Leo Gura]

There is a huge difference between true and false beliefs.

A false belief is: the Earth is flat.

A true belief is: the Earth is round.

[Terell Kirby]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

There is a huge difference between true and false beliefs.

A false belief is: the Earth is flat.

A true belief is: the Earth is round.

Difference in that one is more aligned with empirical evidence and technological discovery? What is the distinguishing factor?

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, what about belief in God?

I don't agree that believing in God is the same as knowing it really exists or is true. Not knowing would be true rather than assuming that it exists.

Also, would you still believe in a round Earth if you saw Earth as round?

Edited September 1 by Nemra

[ExploringReality]

Mahavira's Stages Of Spiritual Development

Leo, can you share what this means to you? Or how to apply it. I don't understand it 

Edited September 3 by ExploringReality

[ExploringReality]

You say that relativity is baked into the fabric of reality. Can you elaborate on this please? What is relativity? And how does it relate to ideas of right and wrong and the distance between objects? Yes they are both relative. But what is relativity? Is this the answer for what Context is? 

I can definitely see it's radical implications of how I understand reality and live life but it's so slippery to catch it. 

Also your response is what I imagine to be kind of like an alien landing in my mind, a synchronicity, perfect timing, feedback in consciousness work. I don't know lol, it feels like I'm in a Spartan total warrior video game,

Edited September 3 by ExploringReality

[Leo Gura]

@ExploringReality Explaining relativity is no small feat.

Contemplate it for yourself.

I have a video on it.

[ExploringReality]

56 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@ExploringReality Explaining relativity is no small feat.

Contemplate it for yourself.

I have a video on it.

I know you mentioned making a part two for that one. Or is that your what is paradox episode?

I will, thank you.

I will rewatch it.

[Leo Gura]

@ExploringReality I will make a Part 2 and 3. But you still need to contemplate it yourself since it's too serious a topic to take my word for it.

[ExploringReality]

55 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@ExploringReality I will make a Part 2 and 3. But you still need to contemplate it yourself since it's too serious a topic to take my word for it.

I will continue to contemplate for myself.

Wow, your episode Understanding Relativism is a mind bender. 

This connects to your recent blog post on mahavira's stages of awakening and that word anakatavada. Many sidedness

[ExploringReality]

Danm!!!!! This is wild!!! It's like a epistemic free fall. Our assumptions of reality is relative to our frame of reference, and our frame of reference is relative to the assumptions that feed into the frame of reference

[integral]

Blog request, corruption in health care, particularly at the practitioner level.

Bonus points for epistemic corruption

Edited September 4 by integral