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@Ash55  as I heard once in a Real State Training. " A Smart Ass and an Idiot will go out to the streets tomorrow,  and they will make bussiness" 

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@Leo Gura, I just noticed Steve Patterson's book on your booklist and immediately bought it.

I really wanted a clear, simple, and truthful philosophical investigation from the start.

Thank you for the recommendation!

He is genuinely direct. I love it!

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On 29/03/2025 at 5:35 PM, Leo Gura said:

@Daniel Balan Bro, we can barely elect such people in America. And they are hated with passion by the right.

 

On 29/03/2025 at 5:45 PM, Leo Gura said:

@Daniel Balan But the corruption levels are quite different. Corruption is the key piece. A high corruption nation cannot sustain Green/Yellow.

 

On 29/03/2025 at 5:17 PM, Leo Gura said:

Almost certainly not. And even if he did, he would be hated, ineffective, and booted.

Once again your predictions were accurate and are coming true. The guy that won the presidency is hated like hell, never in my life I've seen someone be as hated as the current president of Romania. The right wing russian propaganda through its lackeys are flooding social media non stop with content that viciously attack the president and calls for violent uprisings.

The corrupt mainstream centrists are also hampering and booting any kind of reform attempted by the president and his newly assigned prime minister. 

Basically at this point, 2 months into his mandate, he couldn't do nothing, firstly because the Romanian form of government is a semi presidential one, where the president is not the chief of government, but rather a superviser to ensure the government is working and is effective, but neither the president and the prime minister that he appointed aren't able to pass any reforms, the governing coalition is made up from 4 parties from which only one party is attempting serious reform, that party was founded by the president in 2016. 

What made me come here and write this is the furious backlash from the right wing and the corrupt centrists, man I never seen ever such a massive backlash, I've even heard rumors among my villagers that they are planing a massive violent coup d'etat against the president to overthrow him. 

You were totally right! A stage yellow non corrupt leader will be extremely ineffectivene and hated like crazy. Although upon closer analysis I realized the president is not so yellow, he has a lot of orange elements in him, he is like 60% orange and 40% yellow , but he is not corrupt, but he will either have to cave in to the corrupt actors demands, or he will most likely evicted from office by the devils. 

 

 

 

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Actualized Quotes #287

It eats - powerful reminder. Thank you 


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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@Leo Gura I don't know what you did to the forum but for the last few days it feels amazingly fast and smooth. 10 days ago it was sluggish and slow AF, now it is so smooth like never before. Lighting fast. Keep up the good work. 


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Really loved the "c" te contextualization gif. I looked at it for quite some time.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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I'm loving all this stuff on fake "woh-woh" spirituality. 

I remember when I had hipster hippie phase that ordinary people would cringe at all the spiritual stuff. I think to a certain degree, they cringe because it comes off as phone and insincere. It is a lot of feel-good wordplay, so fair enough.

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The people in Vegas selling mushrooms are probably going to get shut down.

We had people try that where I lived. They survived I think a few months before the Feds raided their place.


"Finding your reason can be so deceiving, a subliminal place. 

I will not break, 'cause I've been riding the curves of these infinity words and so I'll be on my way. I will not stay.

 And it goes On and On, On and On"

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I think growing mushrooms will benefit you financially in the long run.

I found that making my own psychedelic is fun.

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Hi @Leo Gura You know what would be really dangerous? A Whatifalthist version of you. I can only imagine how much deceptive and evil such a character could be. If Whatifalthist was the evil version of you that could possibly cause a cult 100 times more dangerous than Trump's MAGA.

The good thing about Trump and MAGA and Whatifalthist is that they are very limited, cartoonish and stupid. They can't do grotesque amounts of damage to the epistemology ecosystem the same way Russia couldn't overrun Ukraine in a month. The internal corruption of Russia, its backwardness, incompetence and arrogance saved Ukraine.

But imagine if an evil version of you emerges, such a devil actor could corrupt and destroy the minds of generations with unparalleled amounts of vicious devilry. 

Leaving this hypothetical scenario aside, I noticed that when a devil encounters your teachings it makes that devil even more dangerous and manipulative. I shared the spiral dynamics model with a far righter and he turned it upside down to suit his agenda, calling leftists at stage red and calling people like Andrew Tate, Xi Jinping, Putin and Trump at stage Yellow. Imagine calling China at stage yellow..... He made that claim because he lived in China, Beating his chest that he knows from direct experience how evolved Chinese society is compared with the "decadent" West, The West which he then placed also at stage Red because it has migrants and SJW's that annoy him with their "Wokeness"..

Bottom line is that Whatifalthist is an immature cartoonish child, with a sloppy and flimsy propaganda system. His foolishness is very obvious. The real mortal danger for society is someone extremely charismatic, very meticulous, very clever, very skillful at hiding bias and ideology, someone who is a master at exploiting and manipulating the self deception found into others.

Whatifalthist is too self deceived and cartoonish to properly self deceive a developed and introspective mind. What I fear the most is someone who can capture my mind into fascist propaganda without me even realizing. For that to happen takes a real sociopath that knows the mechanisms for self deception, how to hide malicious intent and poisoning my epistemology while masquerading as a champion of truth. 

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Here's a quote from the video "WTF is the left even doing" from the channel Elon Musk likes. Sounds like something Leo should say. What am I missing? 

 

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On 09/06/2025 at 9:48 PM, Miguel1 said:

Osho also most likely ENFP.

Rupert is something completely else to INFJ?

Osho is ENTP, Spira INTP. 


"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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Dealing with cosmic horror while trying to ace my ant life was the biggest challenge in the beginnings of my spiritual Awakening.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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7 hours ago, enchanted said:

Here's a quote from the video "WTF is the left even doing" from the channel Elon Musk likes. Sounds like something Leo should say. What am I missing?

Screenshot_20250822_083817_YouTube.jpg

The mystical aspects of Whatifalthist's worldview are the least problematic parts.

The problematic parts are his butchery and distortion of history and his right-wing, pro-Trump, quasi-racist and sexist political conclusions.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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20 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Hi @Leo Gura You know what would be really dangerous? A Whatifalthist version of you. I can only imagine how much deceptive and evil such a character could be. If Whatifalthist was the evil version of you that could possibly cause a cult 100 times more dangerous than Trump's MAGA.

The good thing about Trump and MAGA and Whatifalthist is that they are very limited, cartoonish and stupid. They can't do grotesque amounts of damage to the epistemology ecosystem the same way Russia couldn't overrun Ukraine in a month. The internal corruption of Russia, its backwardness, incompetence and arrogance saved Ukraine.

But imagine if an evil version of you emerges, such a devil actor could corrupt and destroy the minds of generations with unparalleled amounts of vicious devilry.

1) Yes. That's why I'm very careful not to start any kind of social movement.

2) Trump and MAGA have done enormous epistemic damage. More than someone of my small scale ever could, no matter how evil I desired to be. I just don't have anywhere near that kind of wide appeal or reach. Even if I wanted to be as evil as I could, my niche-ness would limit my influence. I'm not a mainstream kind of guy and I couldn't fake having mainstream appeal.

20 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Leaving this hypothetical scenario aside, I noticed that when a devil encounters your teachings it makes that devil even more dangerous and manipulative. I shared the spiral dynamics model with a far righter and he turned it upside down to suit his agenda, calling leftists at stage red and calling people like Andrew Tate, Xi Jinping, Putin and Trump at stage Yellow. Imagine calling China at stage yellow..... He made that claim because he lived in China, Beating his chest that he knows from direct experience how evolved Chinese society is compared with the "decadent" West, The West which he then placed also at stage Red because it has migrants and SJW's that annoy him with their "Wokeness"..

Yes, I expect that kind of distortion.

20 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Bottom line is that Whatifalthist is an immature cartoonish child, with a sloppy and flimsy propaganda system. His foolishness is very obvious. The real mortal danger for society is someone extremely charismatic, very meticulous, very clever, very skillful at hiding bias and ideology, someone who is a master at exploiting and manipulating the self deception found into others.

Whatifalthist is too self deceived and cartoonish to properly self deceive a developed and introspective mind.

It's obvious to you. But to most people it is not obvious and it is appealing.

Deeply intelligent evil will never spread far and wide because most people need a foolish form of evil to suit their intellectual level. Foolishness is exactly what spreads far and wide and gains mass popularity.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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Hitler was not meticulous, clever, or skilled at hiding bias. Which is why the German elite thought he was a clown they could control

Social forces have their own momentum and produce demagogues that reflect them. I don’t think these demagogues are puppet master manipulators at all.

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@Leo Gura You know which historical figure I'm deeply intrigued by? Lenin! A lot of liberal and intellectual youth at the dawn of the 20th century was drawn towards Lenin's leftist Marxist ideals. Had I been alive in 1917 in Russia I would 100% been a great supporter of Lenin and his leftist ideals especially before him taking power. After taking power he threw out the window all the liberalism and intellectual stuff the young liberals stood for. 

Someone like Lenin or Marx is a real danger to society! He was able to conquer deeply introspective, independent minds.  In comparison, The philosophy of Trump and Whatifalthist seem like child's play compared to the philosophic worldview of Marx or Lenin that attracted some of the most cognitively developed minds during that era. 


It is easy to fool an illiterate red neck that has seen all his life only cow and horse shit, into far right nationalism. It is much harder to fool an introspective philosophical mind, the way Marx and Lenin did. Albeit Lenin did fool mostly rednecks, he did conquer the minds of a demographic that Nazis could never do. Fascism also attracted a base of intellectuals and philosophers but it was much smaller in size and their philosophy was so dog shit and cartoonish that it is almost laughable compared to the philosophy generated by those who were supporting leftist movements in the beginning of the 20th century in Russia, Germany, France and so on. 

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@Leo GuraDo you have any tips to determine whether someone is a corrupt devil just by observing his speech? In our current epistemic ecosystem almost all news sources represent paid brainwashing propaganda. So I no longer rely on any kind of information provided by others to asses someone's character.
Imagine we lived in 1917 Russia or 1930's Germany or 2016 America, and we don't have at our disposal any information sources on Lenin, Hitler or Trump. How do I determine that Trump is a devil just by the way he behaves and talks?
 

The reason I'm asking this is that most of the corruption and devilry of a bad faith actor lays in the shadows, probably never to be discovered. So what red flags does someone display involuntarily or voluntarily in his speech that allows us to identify that individual as a dangerous devil masquerading as a clean actor? How do we determine that someone like Navalny is a clean actor and someone like Putin is a devil? Only via their discourses and rhetoric. What tools should an average human use to accurately asses whether someone is a corrupt bastard or is a clean honest actor? Without ever relying on information or stories from others about the characters they are trying to analyze. 

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@Daniel Balan Lenin was extremly pig-headed and combative, which was the clear red flag with him.

His obnoxious, angry, and dogmatic attitude even towards his fellow socialist intellectual commrades revealed his true character. Lenin was a nasty, power-hungry, Machiavellian character. Nothing good can come from a character like that even if all his criticisms of capitalism were theoretically sound.

At the end of the day you just have to be a good judge of human character. It should be obvious that guys like Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Trump have rotten, devilish character, which overrides any ideology or theory.

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