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The Epistemic Circularity Of Atheism.

I'm starting to enjoy these writings as much as your videos. I can sense the effort you put in clarity, it resonates. Reading feels like following a golden thought thread.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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3 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

I'm learning how to navigate both spiritual frameworks. 

I am with you there.

I am on this forum, a follower, due to always being hinged toward a masculine approach. I have followed Leo since his initial videos, I just chose to lurk and immerse myself in process for many years.

It is in the latter portion of my spiritual path that I have delved into the feminine approach.

Having more experience of both, I find much more peace overwhelming me.

I am able to love others even in conflict.

And while I cannot always do this (especially when charged up in emotion myself!) I am closer to this experience on a daily basis.

:)


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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@OBEler

This is quite beautiful, and I hope it was beneficial for her. Do you think it resulted in a more balanced approach, or has she been acclimating to this new realisation? I recall being very destabilized.

I have had enlightenment experiences and integration through the masculine path. Prior to developing the feminine. It was quite inversed for me :)

I have been present at the feminine birthing process many times. I bring this up as there is experience there that is quite additive to the embodiment of love. A strong teaching experience that we only fail when we don't love enough. I new state and experience - body - for God to inhabit, is brought forth. Infinite Love is there, in that moment. This feminine axis relies on integrating a state of being by immersing in pure feeling, experience, emotion. Love.

The masculine required a lot of understanding to integrate. A heady, disembodied feeling. The feminine relies less on cerebral energy. Keen to hear what your girlfriends thoughts are

 


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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Seeing God in a table fork is easy.

seeing God while caught in a cyclone of misery, suffering, despair that’s another matter.

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8 hours ago, OBEler said:

@Natasha Tori Maru

My girlfriend had very feminine spirituality. All kinds of new age thoughts  also. But also seeing and talking to other gods like jesus, zeus, gaia, prophets and so on. But on one day she had one deep breakthrough of 5 Meo and she saw the truth like Leo did. She saw there is only one. After that Feminine spirituality was reduced to a minimum and Solipsism replaced that. She is alone and everything. Still she has a feminine side on spirituality but not so new agy.

This is so sad. She should try a phenethylamine like peyote or san pedro mescaline for healing. It can help her become social again and climb that narrative latter again. 5-meo-dmt wasn't meant for people like her. One day science will evolve to the point where we'll be able to leave our bodies go inward to the upper echelons of the spirit dimensions where we can meet the prophets Jesus Buddha Krishna etc. You all need to have faith that there's more to this spiritual thing than what 5-meo-dmt shows. In the future we will have a wide diet of spiritual tools and psychedelics that will show us many more dimensions to this spiritual thing. Spirituality is way bigger than just 5-meo-dmt. Study from avid astral projectors, learn from NDEs, study what Jesus actually said not what the church teaches. there's way more out there than just solipsism. Just focusing on 5-meo-dmt is like only eating meat. There's a whole variety of diets, foods, herbs, meats and even drugs, Unfortunately technology won't find spirituality and really make it reliable for another several decades. Until then you have to believe. Believe the NDEs, believe Jesus. And go on an adventure to climb the narrative hierarchy. 

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@Leo Gura why are you conflating "you need to care about truth to succeed in business and war because you can't afford to have fantasies and illusions about how things are" with seeking truth in a spiritual sense?

Just because you can see the world in a ruthless / cold analytical way, doesn't mean that you are going to care about existential truths.

And you say in that same post that most of those men are bullshitters and need to use lies and deceptions to succeed in busienss and war. So I thunk it kind of proves the point that there is very little correlation between the two.

I actually think that most of those "rational men" would use your language and call the truth you are talking about "airy-fairy fantasies".

Also, how is a businessman or an engineer guy less distracted from truth seeking than a mother raising children?

I think it is actually feminine qualities are actually what allows you to care about philosophy and spirituality and such vs just "pure ruthless survival". I know more girls who are into spirituality and esoterics, even if its new agey spirituality than men. And the guys who are into pilosophy and spirituality are also not the most masculine men in general. I don't see hyper masculine men interested in those at all.

Maybe there is an argument to made that you need a balance of both. Feminine for idealism, intuition, and interest in those finer topics of life and masculine for discipline, being able to deal with discomfort, face the cold truth, etc. As you've mentioned in your second post.


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5 hours ago, PenguinPablo said:

Seeing God in a table fork is easy.

seeing God while caught in a cyclone of misery, suffering, despair that’s another matter.

I think it's easier to see the cosmic joke when you are being tortured by life you just have to remember to laugh 

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1 hour ago, Something Funny said:

why are you conflating "you need to care about truth to succeed in business and war because you can't afford to have fantasies and illusions about how things are" with seeking truth in a spiritual sense?

Because all truth is related.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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In the Spinoza video the man tell a story of a father and son that murder the daugther to keep the honor of the family and they feel good and bad about it. Bad that she did it and good that they kept the honor. 

Today it came to me this simple principle about understanding corruption that it think Leo said in one of his videos, is that, when we want to understand corruption from someone we need to try to understand it from his or her point of view, not from ours. For example, understand the Israel soldiers shoting kids in the head. From my point of view is easy to see that is corrupt to do it. But this will never help me to understand their behavior.

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15 mins in and it's already blowing my mind..thanks @Leo Gura for this ..it helps to see God articulated from outside sources, Spinoza is amazing- and this guy articulated it so well:

 

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Jesus Leo, why are you sharing so much mormon deceptions. Just when I decided coming back to Church. Actually last meeting the main topic was preparation for emergency. Stock food,grains, a 72 hour bag etc.. 

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@Rafael Thundercat You better be fucking joking.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura, regarding the "Nisagardatta On Self-Inquiry" blog post, are you saying that I am not serious enough for only focusing on psychedelics?

For example, I am starting to use and explore psychedelics, although I have done weeks-long meditations before. I want to go deep and high as much as possible as of now.

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14 minutes ago, Nemra said:

are you saying that I am not serious enough for only focusing on psychedelics?

Yes.

But if you're just starting out there is no rush. Psychedelics is it's own deep domain and you can't do everything at once.

Edited by Leo Gura

You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

@Rafael Thundercat You better be fucking joking.

What? Will you excomunicate from Actualized if I re-baptize? I am not joking, I am making a radical acceptance experiment. Being able to navigate the Blue with my 8 years of deep psycadelic study. We cant simply abandon Blues in their EchoChambers. And anyway meet a lot of delulu people in Ayahuasca circles. They may not belive in Kolob and God in Haven with hundreds of wifes but they belive science,spirits, entities etc.. I will relate my Back to a Mórmon adventures here. 

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@Leo Gura

Are you planning to release new videos on mind autonomy, creativity or innovation? :D 

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17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But if you're just starting out there is no rush. Psychedelics is it's own deep domain and you can't do everything at once.

Ok.

But I think doing psychedelics is a serious business though, way more serious and radical than meditation or self-inquiry.

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27 minutes ago, Nemra said:

But I think doing psychedelics is a serious business though, way more serious and radical than meditation or self-inquiry.

@Leo Gura, am I wrong?

In what ways is meditation or self-inquiry superior to psychedelics?

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1 hour ago, Nemra said:

way more serious and radical than meditation or self-inquiry.

Don't kid yourself.

Psychedelics are important, but they are easy compared to weeks of nonstop meditation.

Edited by Leo Gura

You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo GuraYou're very lost and keep on changing your opinions based on your feelings it seems. One moment you make bombastic claims that psychedelics are the way to go and poo poo on all other techniques but then you tout hardcore long week meditation retreats and now its self inquiry. Which is it? I'm shocked no one calls this out as the goal post is constantly moving 

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