Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Puer Aeternus]

17 hours ago, Jayson G said:

The very definition of capitalism is centered around the good of humanity. 

This one was just- yeah. I couldn't resist.

It's valid to point out the pros and cons of capitalism! Certainly, there are some good ones and I'm not trying to take away from the pros you listed! From studying countries, I've seen grounded implementation of capitalism can raise all boats of citizens in a country. China isn't full sending for communism for a reason. It's the most competitive system we have for now. It delivers results. Clearly it's not something that can be easily replaced and if some fuck off progressive just went in trying to change things willy nilly, it would be a disaster.

The lens of your analysis basically focuses on the products capitalism has created. It's an important scope and sounds like one you have experience with and can think through easily. There's something to be said about innovation. But uhhh.. what about literally everything else?

And is it even that good at innovation? Well, probably depends. Consider how many quality products have been bought out and shittified, new innovations blocked by powerful market leaders, shut out completely because they were too threatening. Look at these companies, look at their moves. The most innovative product is nice to have but isn't always the end goal. You already said what the ultimate goal is.

Cause do you SERIOUSLY THINK that the only person fucked by the maximize profit motive.. is the final stakeholder? Not seeing. Anything else? Anything glaring, anything screaming. Lol the people at the top are only super corrupt but that's okay because evil aligns with the greater good most of the time.. and it can be "true". But when it's not, it's one big fat ugly beast. One big mess.

So don't start glazing on the pros too much. It's what we've got for now, hopefully humanity can grow into something even better some day.

[Rafael Thundercat]

On 29/06/2025 at 4:13 AM, Leo Gura said:

The point of my post was to point out how the field is corrupt, not to pick on Mel per se. She is part of a much larger pattern that is clear there. I didn't make it up. It it worse than people know. I try to find videos to point out what I already know from the inside.

What do you ready know from inside?

[Rafael Thundercat]

 @Leo Gura the last quote in the blog " Defending your worldview is unconscious behavior " 

Could exist nuance in this words? I mean, what about Exposing,declaring explaning one worldview? Is not what you do in your videos? 

Of course a more defensive tone can be applied to a discourse and that would show clearly that there are some unconscious stuff ligering behind the motives of the person talking. But is not True that in your work there are some fundamentals that you are not open to negotiate and so in this case you would even defend then for the sake of not betrayal of your own knowing?

[Happy Lizard]

@Rafael Thundercat @Leo Gura

isn’t that like saying defending your own country is unconscious behavior? Sure not loosening your defense of your worldview when there are better informations can be unconscious but the quote doesn’t seem to allow for that nuance. 

[Leo Gura]

The quote is perfect. You just need to reach the point where you get it.

When you finally understand, there is nothing to defend.

Edited July 1 by Leo Gura

[Rafael Thundercat]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

When you finally understand, there is nothing to defend.

Is unconscious to defend my body? Even knowing that the body will eventually run out of power,decay and dissolve? 

If someone try to kill me I will defend myself, my worldview just happen to be something I carry, my body gone, what point in defending worldviews?

[Rafael Thundercat]

12 hours ago, Puer Aeternus said:

Cause do you SERIOUSLY THINK that the only person fucked by the maximize profit motive.. is the final stakeholder? Not seeing. Anything else? Anything glaring, anything screaming. Lol the people at the top are only super corrupt but that's okay because evil aligns with the greater good most of the time.. and it can be "true". But when it's not, it's one big fat ugly beast. One big mess.

So don't start glazing on the pros too much. It's what we've got for now, hopefully humanity can grow into something even better some day.

Capitalism served its purpose in ending feudalism and getting us through the Industrial Revolution. 

It’s naive to think capitalism will be the dominant economic system for the remainder of humanity. So it will have to evolve at some point

As we enter a new era of a technological revolution capitalism has become an outdated system for developed nations. 

Clinging to it in hopes you’ll one day get to wear the boots you’re licking is honestly quite pathetic

[Vibes]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The quote is perfect. You just need to reach the point where you get it.

When you finally understand, there is nothing to defend.

Because when you are conscious, you're present and the robotic defense mechanisms can't run unnoticed because you're conscious of them. And because defending one point of view over another is a defense mechanism against reality, and by being locked on one point of view you narrow your consciousness. Right?

 

 

Edited July 1 by Vibes

[CARDOZZO]

The point is that your worldview is not the TRUTH. 

Human worldview is not the EYE OF GOD.

As humorous as it might seem - it never will be.

 

Edited July 1 by CARDOZZO

[Rafael Thundercat]

18 minutes ago, Vibes said:

Because when you are conscious, you're present and the robotic defense mechanisms can't run unnoticed because you're conscious of them. And because defending one point of view over another is a defense mechanism against reality, and by being locked on one point of view you narrow your consciousness. Right?

 

 

 

Are you trying to have your point of view validated? Rigth?

[Rafael Thundercat]

1 minute ago, CARDOZZO said:

The point is that your worldview is not the TRUTH. 

Human worldview is not the EYE OF GOD.

As humorous as it might seem - it never will be.

 

Looks like that the zenmaster released the Koan and the students will try to decipher one by one in vain. The student that get it became the successor in the Gura lineage hehe

[Vibes]

11 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

 

Are you trying to have your point of view validated? Rigth?

Sure haha

[CARDOZZO]

36 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Looks like that the zenmaster released the Koan and the students will try to decipher one by one in vain. The student that get it became the successor in the Gura lineage hehe

The one who gets it will have access to Leo's booklist and Life Purpose course for free 

[ChadT]

Curious if you have seen The Wire Leo?  I think you would get a lot out of it.  It's brilliant.  It was written by a former Baltimore Sun crime reporter and former Baltimore homicide detective.  Each season, looks at inner city Baltimore from a different angle.  It teachs without coming across didactic. 

Edited July 2 by ChadT

[ZenSwift]

https://www.actualized.org/insights/mel-robbins-corruption

Hey Leo What happened to this post? Was planning on finally getting around to watching that video. 

 

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, ChadT said:

Curious if you have seen The Wire Leo? 

Nope.

3 hours ago, ZenSwift said:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/mel-robbins-corruption

Hey Leo What happened to this post? Was planning on finally getting around to watching that video. 

You snooze you lose

Don't worry about it. It wasn't the best content.

Edited July 2 by Leo Gura

[Rafael Thundercat]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nope.

You snooze you lose

I really difficult to keep up with Leo content, but is worth the effort. Reading around 5 books at same time and keep up with news,other influencers and life..uff, what makes it possible is because I am in love with consciousness. 

[Nick_98]

Hello, this post is for you leo & I'm sorry to sound disappointing. But your work isn't making impact. neither you nor the other spiritual people like peter ralston and even the Buddha. I've read ralston's book at least 3 - 5 times. It's not working bro.. Trying to explain infinity or god or consciousness or anything like that I've spent a lot of time trying and meditating and doing all sort of things like contemplating and meditating. Bro.. The net effect is negative .. What's the point of this work , if it doesn't help people gain any insight ? I'm still to this day not understanding anything of what you guys are saying.. so what's the point of teaching it ? Maybe it would be better if you decide to live normally like us, eat , sleep , work , repeat at least you will be more relatable to people around you. I've read ralston's book several times and man , I can't tell you how much i tried to dodge the obstacles the book is pointing at. I sat staring at the sky for hours trying to get to the "EXPERIENCE" ralston is talking about.. it's just not working.. so my question for you now is why do you guys keep leading people for this work even tho it's not going to work for most people.. and even worse it is going to be interpreted in the wrong way.. what's the point   and I don't have access to psychedelics. I've read too many of your blog posts and still I'm not getting ANYTHING. Even worse I get the wrong thing each time I read because I don't have any sort of experience to relate to. So What is the Point why don't you decide to give it up and call it a day and live by any other moto than trying to explain to people the unexplainable. As it is not working for me I believe it is not working for millions of other people wasting their time to reach the "IMPOSSIBLE". We don't have access to psychedelics it is not sold in the store. So unless it becomes for sale to the public anywhere in the world we can debate whether your work is worth it or not. At the end , I apologize for sounding disappointing to you. But I'm a reflection to you Leo.. Your work.. I had huge will to figure out what you were pointing at.. and Failed.. which means your work isn't allowing a Person from reaching anything other than confusion. I don't blame you on anything. But you should question your work.. it's not reflecting.. it's not making people's eyes open but in contrary , it's making us more confused and at the end reaching nothing. Especially Peter ralston.. who wrote a huge book I read from the heart I swear.. and at the end after doing all the practices in the book.. life didn't reveal to me anything. Disappointing.

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, Nick_98 said:

Bro.. The net effect is negative .. What's the point of this work , if it doesn't help people gain any insight ?

I read comments under my YT videos every week of people saying how much the work has changed their lives, even saved them from depression and suicide.

If you are not seeing benefit from the work that means you aren't actually doing it, you are misunderstanding what the work is, you are probably lost in concepts.

There are thousands of insights in this work and you haven't gotten any of them?

You are just reading words and having ideas. Yes, that alone is pointless. But that isn't even to begin the work.

Yes, it is very hard to experience the stuff Ralston talks about. It requires serious hardcore meditative practice.

There is no easy way to understand deep metaphysical truths. The only way is either psychedelics or week-long meditation retreats. If you are not doing that you will not understand God.

I think you are underestimating the seriousness of this work. Did you really think you would transcend death with such meek effort? We are talking about insanely difficult things here.

What is it you want me to do? Stop doing my work because you are too lazy to do a 2-week meditation retreat?

This work is very, very, very advanced. It requires the drive of a bull to succeed in it. After you complete 10 two-week meditation retreats, then you may complain about it not working. But until then you just haven't even begun the serious work. The problem is, people today have no work ethic. They expect Awakening to be like watching Netflix and quit as soon as the work gets rolling.

Zen monks meditate for years and still don't reach these insights.

Edited July 3 by Leo Gura

[Nick_98]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If you are not seeing benefit from the work that means you aren't actually doing it, you are misunderstanding what the work is, you are probably lost in concepts.

First of all , thanks for taking the time to respond to the post , really appreciate you. 

Second thing is , if I am misunderstanding the concept , that's on me or on you ? 

I have no vehicle to implement the work outside from the words that you are saying.

I read your words , your blog and other spiritual teachers. Your word guided me to do practices, at the end it didn't flourish. but the question is that's on who ? because if there is anything more I could've done I would've done it.

I did the practice where ralston said you contemplate on what are the sensations of your fingers and not focusing on your thoughts but your active sensory experience. I did that 1000 times. Not one time I've gained any insight. I'm still doing this practice till this day and nothing. I'm just a human chimp, I'm programmed to "think" , Emote, and Respond to what I'm being prompted with from a second to second basis. I tried to dodge this ideas from my mind and focus on the Sensory Experience. Still nothing occurs , I have a limited attention span which won't allow me to focus on something for forever , Who can focus on something for forever ? Which words are you going to choose to guide such a student(me).