Israel / Palestine News Thread

[Raze]

 

[Lyubov]

Israel isn't a good example of a democracy. You ain't a democracy if you build an ethno state and ethnically clean the land of natives. It's like how Trump people think their ideology is democracy, demonize and clean the other side, then have everyone who agrees with each other vote. 

[Raze]

 

[MrTruf]

On 10/19/2024 at 5:09 PM, zazen said:

@Raze Connected to what you just shared

By Jonathan Cook: 

''More than 20 years ago, a group of extreme ideologues known as the neoconservatives seized the foreign policy initiative during the presidency of George W Bush. They have since become a permanent foreign policy elite in Washington, whichever administration is in power. 

What is distinctive about the neoconservatives is the centrality of Israel to their worldview. They regard Israel’s unapologetic Jewish supremacism and militarism as a model for the West - one in which it returns to an unashamed white supremacism and militarism in a revived spirit of colonialism. 

Like Israel, the neoconservatives see the world in terms of a never-ending clash of civilisations against the so-called Muslim world. In this context, international law becomes an obstacle to the West’s victory, rather than a guarantee of global order. In addition, the neoconservatives view Israel as the battering ram to keep the US in charge of international affairs in the world’s main oil spigot, the Middle East. Israel lies at the heart of Washington’s policy of full-spectrum global dominance.

The neoconservatives have long been sold on Israel’s strategy for achieving such dominance in the Middle East: by Balkanising it. The aim has been to demand utter subservience to Israel, with any source of dissent not only punished, but the social structures that support it crushed into ruins.

As I documented in my 2008 book Israel and the Clash of Civilisations, Israel was supposed to carry out a central chunk of Washington’s post-Iraq plan, starting with its war on Lebanon in 2006. Israel’s attack there was supposed to drag in Syria and Iran, giving the US a pretext to expand the war.

The plan went awry largely because Israel got bogged down in phase one, in Lebanon. It blitzed cities like Beirut with US-supplied bombs, but its soldiers struggled against Hezbollah in a ground invasion of southern Lebanon.

The West subsequently found other ways to deal with Syria and Libya. 

Now we are back where we started, nearly 20 years later. Israel, Hezbollah and Iran have all been preparing for this second round. 

The western-Israeli goal, as before, is to destroy Lebanon and Iran, just as Gaza has been destroyed. The aim is to smash the infrastructure of Lebanon and Iran, their governing institutions, and their social structures. It is to plunge the Lebanese and Iranian people into a primaeval state, where they can cohere only into simple, tribal units and fight among themselves for the bare essentials.''

Partly true. US has zionist-occupied government. It's true that Israel is centrality of their foreign policy. However, it has nothing to do with white supremacism, even though they prefer you'd think that way- deflection is one of the names of their game. These wars in the middle east causes huge influx of refugees/migrants to white countries, not something so called white supremacists would want. What you are dealing here is jewish supremacists and their evangelical golems and other corrupt devilish humans/cowards . Case in point is this and the previous threads, where Leo ingeniously allows these devils to express themselves. Nothing else is needed, the arrogance, bias, paradigm lock is so strong with them that they freely put it out themselves. The likes of Gennadiy1981 would make one think that it's some sort of antisemite larping as a jew. All you need to do is read their messages to clearly see game that they are playing. Amongst jews there are certain behavioural archetypes and we have at least the main of them here on this forum. Beware, the game they all are playing is the same despite their apparent differences.

Edited October 20, 2024 by MrTruf

[Karmadhi]

On 18/10/2024 at 10:31 PM, Heaven said:

Same thing is valid about Lebanon, Iran and Turkey. The difference is that in Israel you can protest. In the other they will burn you alive.

I know countless people from Turkey, it is not THAT repressive. 

They jail you if you are involved with specific types of journalism but they do not kill people for protesting. The opposition party in Turkey almost won the elections last year, so calling it a dictatorship is too far fetched. In a dictatorship you have 1 guy earning 90% of the votes like Putin does.

Even Lebanon is relatively chill country for the most part. I guess in the south if you denounce Hezbollah you can get in trouble but it is complicated.

Only in Iran would you be killed for protesting and nobody will burn you alive, more like hanging or shooting you.

And even that is rare.

So please stop with the racist propaganda.

And as a bonus, this is what happened last time people in Gaza gathered in a protest to try to peacefully solve their situation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–2019_Gaza_border_protests

This is what a Palestinian gets for protesting against Israel in Greater Israel

 

Edited October 20, 2024 by Karmadhi

[Raze]

 

[Nemra]

Issues among Palestinians:

People who only empathize with the Palestinian side and view them only as victims also do whitewashing.

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Edited October 21, 2024 by Raze

[zazen]

[Raze]

 

Edited October 22, 2024 by Raze

[Yimpa]

“Israel’s war could set Gaza back 69 years, UN warns”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/middleeast/war-gaza-development-un-report-intl/index.html

[zazen]

51 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

“Israel’s war could set Gaza back 69 years, UN warns”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/middleeast/war-gaza-development-un-report-intl/index.html

Terrible.

“Equality” minister calling for Nakba.

Not sure what’s more absurd, an equality minster saying such a thing or a “Green Party” head in Germany saying civilian targets can become legit military targets if terrorists are among them.

It’s as if the West hit moral rock bottom, but they just keep digging.

Edited October 23, 2024 by zazen

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Edited October 24, 2024 by Raze

[Davino]

I'm unaware if this was already posted but I find this moment so cold. Imagine reporting the murder of all your family live on TV

 

[enchanted]

 

[Raze]

 

[zazen]

It’s not news that the West are complicit, but it seems the leaked plans haven’t deterred an Israeli response in the making - just a change of plan maybe.

Some people speculate the leak was done purposely as a excuse not to attack and save face.

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[zazen]

 

[Nivsch]