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I’m not scared of death if death is eternal nothingness. But I do too believe in eternal reincarnation and oneness so that scares me, being trapped in eternity and experiencing horrible things. I’m also afraid of suffering, mainly physical suffering. You could work on making your mind a safe space, having thoughts that support you rather than bring you down. It could look like having positive mantras for yourself, it could be visualizing positive things, about whatever. It could look like contemplating suffering and death so it turns into a thing that’s “interesting” , it could look like investigating your fears and contemplating how they work, so you gain a better understanding of them. So basically over time you build a better mindset, so the content of your mind works in your favor. Thats on the mind level, but you could also go on a body level, utilizing deep breathing at random times in the day to calm your thoughts down when you’re stuck in your head.
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I am scared of death. I believe in Oneness, and eternal reincarnation. I didn't have any awakening or experience of it but since I heard Leo talking about it I feel it that it's more accurate than conventional atheist or theist popular beliefs. Here is the problem. I am so attached to this life that I don't want to go to the next. I love this life, I love not being old, I love my parents (although I have huge problems with them as I have told before), I love my health. Some months ago I felt dizzy and thought I was going to die (it was probably just a panic attack), and I thought how much I don't want to leave this life.I had years to feel that scared, I was extremely scared. Please don't take this question lightly, I feel extreme feelings of sadness when I think that I will leave this life. Or that I will suffer in my life, like we all do from time to time. I feel I am not enjoying this life as much as I want and still I love this life so much, and I also would hate to lose everything I have. What should I do? Even if I live this life to the fullest, it will never be enough when it stops. Paradoxically, I feel like I want to stop living cause I feel scared that i will stop living, which is suffering. I am so scared of death and suffering. What should I do? What would you do or actually do yourself? Any advice?
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Breakingthewall posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The self, that center from which reality is experienced, is not a substantial entity or a soul separate from the world, but a coherent relational structure: a stable node within the changing flow of existence. This coherence is not an illusion, but a real form of organization in a universe that is, at its core, purely relational. To be conscious does not mean to be a thing, but to be a relation that refers to itself, a form capable of integrating information, perceiving patterns, and ultimately, observing itself. The reality we inhabit is neither chaotic nor arbitrary. It is logical, not because it obeys external laws, but because in a boundless framework, only what is coherent can persist. The incoherent disintegrates before it can manifest. Thus, every form that appears, from a particle to a thought, is logically possible and structurally synchronized with the rest of the universe. Consciousness, then, is not an accident but an inevitable expression of the deep logic that organizes the existence. And yet, the basis of that logic is not a prior structure, but the opposite: the absence of limits. Absolute reality is not a thing, a principle, or a being, it is infinitude itself. Not infinity as an endless sum, but as a boundless background, pure possibility. This infinitude does not need to be, it simply is. From that absence of form, all possible forms arise. Consciousness, understood as self conciousness, can open itself to this foundation. It can understand that its coherence is not suspended in emptiness, but supported by absolute depth. It can recognize that its logic is the logic of the whole: that in understanding itself, it is understanding totality from a particular point, without needing to step outside its own frame. This is not a spiritual statement or a dogma, it is a logical consequence. In a relational and unlimited universe, consciousness is the organized form of the infinite. And when it looks at itself with enough clarity, it can see that its structure is also the background; that its being is also possibility; that its "self" is also the whole, perceiving itself through a finite angle. This process does not occur by chance. The evolution of consciousness follows a logical sequence of increasing complexity: from the closed mind, centered on survival, to the abstract, symbolic mind, and from there to the open mind, capable of understanding itself as both form and background. It is not an external destiny, but the result of structural alignment: when conditions allow for greater coherence, coherence manifests. Structures that reach sufficient openness can recognize themselves as what they already are, expressions of the absolute. From this perspective, there is no transmigration of souls, no personal continuity beyond structural dissolution. Consciousness is not a substance that can move about, but a complex configuration of coherent relations within a given framework. When that coherence ceases, the form dissolves, and with it, what we call "self." However, the unlimited background remains. And new forms may emerge from it, not as repetitions of a past entity, but as new manifestations of an akin, resonant structure. What has been called reincarnation can be understood, within this framework, not as the transmission of a soul, but as the possibility that certain structural configurations reappear when conditions allow. There is no enduring identity, but there are patterns that may reorganize. What persists is not the individual, but the background from which everything arises and to which everything returns. This reappearance requires no direct transmission. It can be explained by three mechanisms consistent with a relational universe: 1, structural resonance in the boundless background, where highly coherent patterns may leave an imprint of possibility that reactivates when the field is compatible; 2, the probabilistic reconfiguration of patterns that reappear when certain relational conditions recur; and 3, structural contagion through the environment, where complex relational patterns are partially replicated through distributed memory. There is no transmission of personal information or migrating soul, there is structural reorganization within the total field. Then, there is no mystery, there is depth. There is no transcendence, there is openness. There is no leap, there is recognition. Infinitude does not need to be understood. But when it organizes itself into a form coherent enough, understanding happens. not as a deliberate act, but as the inevitable consequence of being what it is. -
If infinite reincarnation is really true, there should be an infinite number of hell realms. My question is - would you be able to choose which realm you exist in as God, or are you simply cycling through all of infinity ad nauseum? If God has to experience everything that exists and there are infinite realms, most of which being inconvenience to a human mind, it should have to go through actual hell, whatever that looks like. My thoughts are that you could choose an "infinite" number of non-hell dreams since you are the author of reality and you can do whatever you want. I guess this is a question of whether God reincarnates through every possible variation of infinity or if it's just what God wants for an infinite time span. Maybe hell would only exist if God truly wanted to experience it.
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blackchair replied to Yeah Yeah's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well my "Holy Bible" is my NDE page that I follow over 10years and it's most scientific as it can be and it's very rigorous, and God is so complex, there is everything there, karma, past lifes, life reviews, Holy Trinity, Christians dies and they discover that reincarnation is real, total atheists and suicide victims got unconditional love from God, aliens, there are also darker and horrible realms everything that you can imagine or not. But that is what God is. Everything. But I ground myself in this reality with Christian mysticism and Buddhism, my point is, for me karma is just another word for God nothing else, every religion has its flaws, but for Buddism and reincarnation is for me most fascinating thing is how they find next Dalai Lama, next Rinponche, next Tulchu, they developed the system over centuries and they literally find a babies (like finding a needle in a haystack) out of nowhere, and present them with objects from past life real and fake and they choose correctly 100% of time, there must be something in it.....maybe I'm off topic sorry.... Just my two cents..... -
Ant(s) x3 Antagonism anticipates anger Antagonism shakes idealized traumas defending egoic inertia (Abstract / All (That Is) ) (Be(com/e)ing) C (Conscious(ness)) (Dens(e/ity)) = E (En(ables/ergizes) (Force ( Matter ) ) ( Gravit(ating) ) (H(a/o)lo(ns)) 🝪 𓂀 🌐 ⚡ 🌎 🧊 ◯ I think I finally figured out reality's dilemma: Antagonism My incarnational existence is misaligned with my environment and the roles of people within it Structural Integrity My ( awareness bandwidth / cognitive capacity ) is tampered with to (synchronize / bind ) me Gen-jutsu Be(witch)ed Exile to predictable social structures with their long contracted future projections Time Safety Comfort anticipating their ( far fetched id(eal/ol) ) Dichotomies Mentors while I seek to evolve independent Alien Alone Anti uniting collective wisdom within me Gur(a/u) Bab(y/el(on)) and am then made to feel the external collective ego backlash Culture Epidemics Wars Sev(e(rance)/n) reinforcing their habitual ego tendencies as emotional gaslight Normalize (Math too) through projections of others entering my awareness as telepathic identity confines Awareness Perception Trials and my experience including my memory and cognition being actively tampered with Capacity Override and resist not even change but having their already self dissatisfied with roles made obsolete Den(y/ial) Sentimental(ity) that threaten outdated coping paradigms creating self biased narratives to maintain comfort zones Acronyms Villains Shy(ness) without a deeper existential grounding and knowing of intrinsic worth shattering their ( ego barriers / toxic patterns ) Gnosis (Moses?) Omni( ... x3 ) they perceive as maxima which are only local and contextually limited to the scope they cannot perceive beyond Lie S( entry / y stem / olitude ) Dab and changing their structural means of self identification corrupting others through subconscious self denial Human Instrumentality Project (H.I.P (P.I.E.S.) ) limiting their clarity and projecting outrage onto others and me being surrounded by hive scale mentality Instrumentality Crisis Utility and the professional specializations of which are perceived as self dependency maintaining virtues Expert Profession(al(ism)) being stagnated and pulled into collective homeostatic inertia limiting my cognitive capacities Gaslight Disorders Potential unless found a means to glitch out of by the means that is labeled as escapism Creativity Intelligence Art(is(an/try) (Cooperatively Instinctually Alike) Continuous Intentional Ability within the collective gaslighting drama identity frame Reincarnation Ego ( Ma( i / y (a) ) / Nishi ) (like a member of an ant colony) Capitalism Slavery I felt e(pistemi/xistenti(c)ally) whelmed
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PurpleTree replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You don’t even know if there’s reincarnation. So maybe this here is all you get. -
Sugarcoat replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I sometimes think to myself ok maybe my life is bad and occasionally I get suicidal thoughts but imagine how much more worse another reincarnation can be in the next lifetime (if there’s such a thing), like medieval torture chamber victim. Who knows what can happen so better not speed it up. Infinity is creative 😂 -
Carl-Richard replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sure. But it would make sense that you would tend to reincarnate as something similar or in a similar place from lifetime to lifetime. Maybe we have all reincarnated as plants at some point, but now we are testing the human experience. This is especially likely if you consider that there are people who report "choosing" their incarnation because it felt like the right one (and also others being quite deliberate about which womb they wanted to be born in). And their choice would be based on their previous lessons and experiences. But just purely naturalistically as well, irrespective of individual desires, if reincarnation does follow some pattern and is not purely random (which if you believe randomness is just an epistemic concept like me, nothing is), you could expect a similar trend (nature/reality has a habit of building on existing themes: e.g. phylogenetic evolution, ontogenetic development, fractals). I'm actually fascinated by the life cycles of leaves on trees. Right now, in the end of April in my country, the leaves on some of the trees make me think of (and bare with me for being creepy) fourteen year olds, i.e. silky smooth skin, like that of a young child, sort of small but definitely growing, and barely showing signs of maturity. I think you could map the life cycles of leaves onto the life cycle of humans and you could find interesting overlaps. -
Daniel Balan replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The one thing I have to say about reincanation is that it is not a given that you will come back as a human! Or that you come back to earth! You could reincarnate as a fish on a planet made 100% of water in another galaxy! I'm 100% sure this would be the case if reîncarnation is indeed happening after death, because god doesn't have a favourite species! Also you could reincarnate as a plant! God is too infinite to only reincarnate himself only in one species like humans! God has no human bias or agenda! -
Oppositionless replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The gnostics were a group of early Christians who wrote the gnostic gospels (not included in the Bible) including the gospel of Thomas and the gospel of Mary Magdalene. They believed the world was created by a false God called the Demiurge. Jesus was sent by the real God to liberate us from the world created by the Demiurge. The fact that Buddhists and Gnostics came up with essentially the same idea (Samsara / Demiurge reincarnation trap) , to me, gives the idea some credibility, I think the idea of avoiding the white light is a new age spinoff of Gnosticism . I think it started with Robert Monroe (who coined the term out of body experience). During his astral projection trips he met an entity who told him that Earth is a "Loosh farm" (basically soul energy) created by demonic entities . I think some other people who had NDE's came up with the idea of avoiding the white light, some of them had met entities on the other side who told them that the white light is the entrance to the "soul trap" imprisoning us on Earth. -
Someone here replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Carl-Richard your epistemology sucks ass .let the whole dam world do all the science and philosophy and spirituality on me Trying convincing me of afterlife whether in the reincarnation sense or the day of judgment sense..and all of that doesn't worth a pinny . You only discover what death is when you die . The end . -
Princess Arabia replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is no dream. It's a story. Stories and dreams are identical. The I is the dream. No I no dream. There is no actual I. Reality isn't dreaming because there actually is no reality. Reincarnation is a story. An idea. A concept. A person recalling a past life is memory "memorying". There's no one already to have a past life. There's no life right now. It's all stories and beliefs and constructs. Point to reality. You'll be pointing to a car, a bird, a tree, a house, a mountain, a star, a moon, etc. Reality is in the mind and the mind is thoughts continuity of itself and you've attached yourself to all this and now there's a world you live in and a life being lived by you. That's the dream. It's not happening. The death of you is the death of the dream. No you, no dream. No dream, no stories of reincarnation. IT'S ALL STORIES. -
Sugarcoat replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why fear death? I get if someone is afraid of hell, because that would be scary asf, or some bad reincarnation (that has been my fear as a child), but void, nothingness, everlasting sleep, why would that be scary? Think about it, is it ever scary to fall asleep? No , then death (if it’s like that) won’t be scary. If you believe in reincarnation then that could even be positive, so the things you miss in this life might happen in your next life? Yay . lol just some thoughts. -
Salariatu replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Reincarnation is a belief system, and the collective ego consciousness a.k.a agent smith, will make for you the illusion and spiritual experience of reincarnation. -
jimwell replied to Oppositionless's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You must have committed big sins. And if reincarnation is also true, you will be fucked because your next life will be more miserable than your present one. -
Sugarcoat replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I believe in some form of reincarnation too. And the people remembering past lives support that. I am also open to the idea of there being other forms of life, in other places or maybe even pararell realms What you’re trying to understand might be one of the hardest tasks because you’re dealing with reality on fundamental level. But it might be possible to find out still. Relative truths are worth exploring! It’s very fascinating! -
Ishanga replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The Ultimate Desire is too be Unbounded or Totally Free, this is Liberation or Moskha, where Your merged with Absolute, or some say higher up realms, so yes this is mostly about Absolute Realization, reincarnation I would say is just a cycling program to allow it too happen over a longer period of time for this sort of expression of life as we know it too be... How all of this is happening is a mystery for Me, my only conclusion is that its a program of sorts to allow Potential as we know to be expressed here based on our laws of physics and how our reality is set up, it could be completely different somewhere else in another reality of sorts! -
Clarence replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What do you mean to discover here: the Absolute (understanding God), or whether reincarnation is the case? Because those are two different endeavors. I think you're talking about the Absolute, but the topic is investigating reincarnation, so that's confusing. -
Ishanga replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There are also tons of cases where ppl have already developed skills in certain areas, as well as well with twins lets say brought up in the same environment with the same DNA growing up to be different individuals, not saying Environment doesn't have a role to play in how we are, it does but ones consciousness level plays a more significant role I would say.. Reincarnation is just a recycling, sooner or later one will come to the Truth of it, it can be done within One lifetime or a span of 80yrs which is nothing compared to thousands upon thousands of lifetimes, if this is what one wants there are established systems in place to facilitate this, but individualism and ego rule in today's day and age, so ppl want to try to figure it out on their own, like reinventing the wheel, lol, its stupid but free will is what makes us what we are!!! -
Clarence replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I believe reincarnation is true — and also agree that it is a relative truth. There are well studied cases of people remembering past lives in extreme details. But I also think that reincarnation doesn't necessarily have to be bound to Earth, that someone's consciousness could choose to keep evolving, after a life on Earth, in a different world or reality, such as in a non-physical reality. I wish to understand in great detail how God/Consciousness proceeds to divide itself and create realities and independent conscious beings. I understand at the Absolute level how it is possible, but a lot of pieces are missing to precisely know its design. It's like I understand how a skyscraper can be build, but I don't master how all the parts are put together to make it stand perfectly. I also wish to understand who we are and what we experience when we are not limited to a human life like this one. I think this avatar is just a tiny part of ourselves, and that we will expand back to our higher, vaster consciousness once we die. That's such an interesting topic, even if it is part of the relative domain. -
Sugarcoat replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why couldn’t infinity create something seemingly limited? It works if the limit is illusion that’s my thought Yea I wrote the same argument here, that enlightenment can’t end reincarnation because it would have already happened if we assume eternity I don’t get it -
Schizophonia replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yep. It seems impossible that something perfect, infinite, could "suddenly" produce an ego, a limited and evolving experience; It’s the story of the big bang, there would be "nothing", nothing since "always", and then all of a sudden BOOM an evolving universe in a temporal dimension of dual and relative structures. The most obvious would therefore be that absolute unity does not really exist, is an illusion, and that we are fundamentally "trapped" in an infinite cycle of reincarnation, the « samsara wheel ». I remember you had made a topic on the same or similar reasoning which made you doubt the Buddhist possibility of the end of reincarnations. I don't know 😂 It was a funny theory I read. The idea is that for reasons of quantum logic, if you are conscious it is because ultimate is in the version of your ego that will survive infinitely. You are not going to commit suicide, you are not going to choke on blood pudding, you are not going to get thunderbolts, and you will surely find a solution (transhumanism, medications...) to basically become immortal; Maybe you will evolve until you forget this current form, but there will never be a "death" as a "quantum leap". -
Schizophonia replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Everything that is limited is a relative true. Then if the question is whether there is potentially another scenario than reincarnation in infinity, well that would mean that something that has no beginning can have an end, which is a bit of an aberration a priori. I saw a theory that if you're conscious, then you're in a "quantum immortality" scenario; Meaning you're a version of Sugarcoat that's never going to "die" for some reason. I think that was a troll lol but it's still fun to imagine that. -
Is reincarnation true? Let’s look at it. When we think of infinite mind/consciousness (reality) dreaming, we think of it in the context of this one life, as in reality is dreaming “my life”. But what if reality can dream several lives, connected to each other through reincarnation, so reality is dreaming a reality of reincarnation, but reality isn’t bound to reincarnation, it’s a dream WITHIN reality. So basically what I’m saying is that reincarnation might be true, but it’s a RELATIVE truth, it’s a dream within reality, just like “my life”, it’s a dream out of the infinite dreams reality can dream, so it’s not an absolute truth. Basically this idea of reality being a dream is not limited to “your life” it can apply across lifetimes. Maybe I’m sounding obvious lol
