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@something_else Jesus Fucking Christ man how about a trigger warning before making me read a post like that, I almost smashed my phone on the ground. They kicked you out because you whispered something in a girl’s ear. If a guy complained to a bouncer about a girl doing that (or really anything for that matter) he’d laugh in their face and say get lost. Women bothering men is treated like a joke not just in clubs but just about everywhere else in life as well. But the gynocentrism is better exemplified in night clubs than pretty much anywhere else. Check out this segment from an article I read and tell me if u think it’s real. Knowing how our egregiously sexist society is I’d say it’s one hundred percent true. “Literally the last time I went to a club I saw a normal, perfectly reasonable looking average guy, get bumped from behind at the bar and he 100% accidentally spilled some of his beer on a young lady’s suede high heeled shoes. Her mouth dropped open and her eyes were suddenly furious with rage. He was mid sentence, I couldn’t hear what he said, but I am guessing it was something like, “I’m so sorry let me buy you a-“ But he couldn’t finish his sentence as her bony knee shot like lightning straight up into his nuts. As her other high heel acted as the fulcrum for her weight and she leaned back a bit and her arms went flailing out to keep her balance. She got some really great momentum into the move, all of her violent force going bye-bye straight into his drink-spilling crotch. I’ve seen some knees, and this was top-notch. He fell instantly to the ground and, ironically, dropped the entire rest of his pint all over her other shoe. In my opinion, serves her right. It was an accident! She stormed off in a huff and complained to the staff as he laid there dry heaving, probably wondering what his new life of ball-lessness was going to be like. The bouncer showed up and Mr. Average was removed from the club while everyone stared and laughed, it was pretty hilarious.” Anyhow, Leo was your first replier to that thread and he said even he’s been kicked out of clubs, this was surprising to me because when I posted complaining about my experience he said something along the lines of “you have to act like the biggest jackass in the world to get kicked out of a bar.” I know it’s not a club but the social dynamics are still quite similar. So was he acting like a massive jackass to get told to leave? In my experience that’s not true at all. And reading your thread confirms it. The next reply is a girl (Preety) chiming in to let us know she finds it “hot” that he’s been given the boot a time or two. So you get kicked out for an incomprehensibly retarded reason despite people saying you have to act like a total lunatic for that to happen, Leo tells you to toughen up about it and that it’s even happened to him before, then a girl comes along to tell us she finds it hot when you would think girls should find it a turnoff considering girls getting the ick is the entire problem here. This world is literally not fucking real. Yes, calibrate as in you better walk on eggshells around the all mighty woman because you’re constantly on very thin ice and one small slip up away from being figuratively burned at the stake. Awesome to know. That makes me feel just terrific about my possibility of ever getting better at attracting these humanoid alien creatures. Seriously, if an alien came to earth to study our current human mating rituals when they saw the vast amounts of bullshit the males have to go through just to get a chance at achieving one of the most basic functions of life they’d be absolutely dumbfounded like “by golly, it’s actually like you’re trying to learn how to slay a dragon” LOL I mean if there’s an unspoken list containing the most basic and harmless little things that somehow give girls the ick of which you can’t possibly know all of them until it’s too late, how are you supposed to not just play it safe and constantly be on guard lest you burn your bridges before you even have any idea wtf you did wrong? I’m sure there is some way to do that but goddamn bro, things sure don’t look good

Could you perceive very singular things, even completely alien to the usual paradigm, by playing with his consciousness/his imagination? Do you have a such experience ?

Some of what I wrote here was from stuff I had written from my trips 3 to 4 years ago and some recent ones. These are my personal views and yours may be very different. When connected to the infinite mind or should I say you when you become it you always were it. I never thought this would be human and it was not and nor are you. Yes from a limited human perspective, it will be very alien to you. If you increase your consciousness high enough you won't be human anymore or expect the infinite to have any human qualities. You are beyond being human but you know this because you become infinitely self-aware of who you truly are and it is scary when you awake as your true self. And you will most probably deny it for a time and believe you have gone into a drug-induced psychosis. When you experience alien consciousness you're just seeing it from another perspective or expression of a higher state of consciousness. All these aspects are your mind. I guess you could say you are starting from a higher state of awareness of consciousness. So if a so-called alien or a higher much more evolved being wanted to experience let's say a human perspective. It might find it fascinating experience. It would be limited and somewhat dumbed down for that though. Remember you are not just a giant mind you are an infinite mind that loves to imagine anything it wants. You are unlimited in what you can imagine. And you can also limit yourself to what you can imagine. So there are quite literally infinite states of consciousness. If you imagine there are higher states of awakening then there will be. If you imagine becoming or seeing through an alien mind on some distant planet in another highly advanced dimension then this will become your reality. Consciousness is existence itself is conscious of its own consciousness is infinite perspectives. Consciousness is not just integrating information it is creating information. And is infinite self-creativity. Consciousness defines its own self can reflect itself to know itself, and can copy itself. All is an infinite mind. Is everything and nothing at the same time is real and unreal is a dream of infinite dreams and pure imagination and infinite magic. Meaning it can create anything it wants infinity so. Life and death are imaginary just like this dream. well, you were never born to begin with so you can never die. And no you are not dead because this implies birth to begin with. You just are what is and what isn't take away ideas, concepts, and notions, and you are left with nothing but something. Ego is God and also imaginary without it this dream would not work. How smart is infinite intelligence try and contemplate this everything is your creation maths, science quantum physics cosmology ideas religions wars linguistics NDE's psychodelics all diversity I could go on forever. And to create everything and for it to work seamlessly or give the illusion of randomness. Randomness or a chaotic system can not create intelligence. Only intelligence can create randomness or the illusion of randomness. It's a very believable background story and it has to be for this to work and for an unlimited mind, it's as easy as pie. You gave meaning to meaning. You created the idea of an idea and evolution and all the background stories which well there never were any of these so-called humans they are all imaginary no human ever really created anything. You created it all yes you me I am you. I did this to trick myself into believing that others exist. You created this for the dream to work. You can work the rest out in other words only you can experience it for yourself only you can take this journey because there really only is you. How deep are you willing to go? Try and lose most of your attachments for a few months even the idea of you as this so-called human that he or she was born on this planet Earth and evolved from apes out of slime and slop and that there are others. I lost most of all my attachments for a while and in a way you do die or should I say what you held as a belief for all this time. Maybe call it your identity of whom you have been building all your life. Loss of identity or identity loss. I don't like the term ego death. This has only happened to me once on my second trip it was like having amnesia until I picked all my pieces up which took about 40 minutes to recover my identity. After that, I always was me or retained my identity to some degree. even when all my humanity had gone God is always God. I remember one time I went through what one could call insanity I experienced depression and all types of mental illnesses when I was on high doses of psychedelics and you have to go with it and let go. I got to see and feel what it was like from that point of view. So I had a new appreciation and understanding and respect of what it is like to live from that state of consciousness. Even what it is like to be a female for a few hours was one of the most beautiful experiences. Through all this, I always chose Love over everything, and I always will. You see Love is the very fabric of existence that is not built into existence it is the very nature the essence the very foundation of what you are is infinite Love. I chose to go back into the dream. And yes, you have to ground yourself and surround yourself with what made you human, to begin with, and It is not easy though once you awaken it is hard to undo it. The choice is yours and you will not even be in the same place and once you go beyond a certain point there is no going back to the same reality. And you may or more than likely lose your sanity for a time. You may be made aware of certain things that will conflict with your morals and ethics and I am not talking about solipsism. Although solipsism was still a bit of a shock I overcame it a few years ago. I would still be cautious but that is me. There is one thing I never mentioned on the biggest trips I had I didn't come back unscathed. I had well-developed OCD but the worst type I would not wish it upon anyone it took me a few days to work out what I had. The funny thing is I never had any symptoms of it and no mental illness runs in our family I have done a lot of drugs all my life. Even the doctor could not believe it. So late in the game, I went on SSRI for the past year and in that time I have taken a 7-gram dose of mushrooms well on SSRIs. It didn't seem to affect me. I would never recommend any of you do this ever. Although psilocybin has been shown to effectively treat depression in some cases and a number of other mental health conditions, there are some antidepressant medications that could have dangerous or undesirable interactions with the substance. It has taken me about a year and a half to come back and I am only now starting to ground myself. But then again I am imagining all this. Not so easy is it once you have broken through your own illusions your own traps within traps your own games and your imaginary mind. All this time you have only been chasing me you are me I am you.

Gave asperger syndrome a little read. Could be a mild form of it because many aspects aren't true for me. Like I can be very charismatic, I can speak in front of people etc. I still have huge problems connecting to other people though. When I was socially overwhelmed in mid school I sometimes walked around with my hands hanging in front of me like the Alien Roger Smith from American Dad. That Alien made more sense to me than humans and by mimicking the posture I felt closer to Roger. 👽

I currently take a high CBD 20:1 tincture (not smoked). I take it twice a day. I plan on eventually taking a 0:1 THC-only product once or twice a month as planned trips, but knowing my sensitivity to THC (and cannabis in general), that shit will probably fuck me up silly. So I’m in no rush to use that yet, as I’m still working on my human life. Long story short, that THC-only product will likely steer me towards Alien Consciousness.

What if im actually interested in alien consciousness? Im tired of most human crap and people. The world is too underdeveloped, most people are unconscious and i just cant stand stupidity. At the very most i would keep enjoying the positive side of being human by my own. Am not very interested in people as i said stupidity makes me angry and frustrated. Am just waiting to live on my own soon to use Leo psychedelic course for serious 5meo trips, reach enlightenment and get curious on how to tap into alien awareness. I feel totally capable for it. I would rather be an enlightened alien who trips on 5meo and lives a fully spiritual life doing astral projection, develop siddhis, contacting angels, masters, psychedelic entities, doing magick, meet goblins, travel the world and be a force of good by my own than live secure with the mob and its stupidity. I prefer to take the risk than regret not knowing what i could have become and discover. No, am totally apt for it. Hope leo get successful on teaching it. At least in a course.

@Leo GuraThere was this out of body experience that I had that lasted very briefly. I had some serious negative emotions without really knowing why. How do I know if there is just pure consciousness or pure consciousness within the soul? If everything is imagined by conscious, it would mean that consciousness imagines astral projections and NDEs but who is the one experiencing these things? Since I saw a ghost, wouldn't this mean that there are souls? You would probably say that a vision of a disappearing lever as alien technology is more likely to be true according to your beliefs but you know that everything is imagined by consciousness and I don't really know what such an experience actually means but something probably changed about my life as the one who experienced it. If my beliefs shape my perceptions and experiences from phychadelics, how do I know that such mystical experiences can be trusted? Since my dream self dies after the dream ends (while I'm in bed) and the perceiver lives on, wouldn't this represent the afterlife because death is imaginary? If I were to take LSD and experience other experiences according to the book The Holographic Universe in which these experiences are still held within my own consciousness, would this mean that there is a samadhi experience with someone else's experience as my own since I only have my experience? The neti neti method proves oneness making such an experience possible because of Oneness since everyone would then be nothing. Oneness would imply that there is no other so what would make this idea more acceptable than Absolute Solipsism in spirituality? Why mention a reuploaded version of the Absolute Solipsism video if you didn't want people to watch (or listen) to it? If the ego is able to interpret mystical experiences, why do some psychadelics kill it, how do I know what will, what would be required for an ego death, does my ego paradoxically want one and if so, why? I only thought about these questions as I was typing all of this which means that I should contemplate them before receiving the answers from you. Have you already talked about what is required for an ego death? I think that this is very important to know right now. You have very long content so it's difficult to remember and I would have to look into my notes to find that which I probably don't have. How would I know if online information about this topic would be misleading? By the way, would you say that your responses to my thoughts and actions through your videos beyond coincidence be conidered samadhi experiences since such knowing about my thoughts and actions to your videos were generated from being and that my state of consciousness was deeper and more concentrated? If it seems like these questions are too much, you can briefly answer each of them. It seemed like you were only cherry picking last time and am curious to know how the result of that works. Please feel free to do what you like with this and I would highly encourage for other people to answer this post.

I guess we want to make it so. We want to explain Consciousness away with logic. Yet logic is held within Consciousness. So I guess we are screwed. We can pawn it off as alien and all that - but ultimately we have to come back to what it is.

Consciousness wants to explore all different aspects of itself, including alien. However, that requires letting go of your current identity along with your ideas of what that different aspect is like. Letting go is not merely losing something, it’s also allowing something new to take its place. Also, when I say let go, I’m not saying to let go of your mind. That is an easy mistake to fall into. Mind is God. You lose your mind when you stop trusting yourself. Notice how you can see this in two very different ways: you stop trusting God you stop trusting your bullshit

So if all states of consciousness are the same but some are "higher" I guess you should prefer the higher one? Leo could spend his time drinking beer and watching sports but instead chooses "alien consciousness" and is recommending we do the same. It is a personal development forum after all. Also having "no mind" or "sports fan mind" or "alien consciousness" mind is technically all the same but I am guess Leo is saying the last one is the best way to be? Just like you would say "no mind" is better than being a heroin addict?

Everything is alien to God conciousness the paradox that God can instantly create something alien to itself. Very weird. What are you creating God? I don't know its so foreign to my experience I cannot fathom what I am doing. And God from the experience of its creation is home but also alien How does Leo know he was an alien or which alien he was could have been a rat and thought he was an alien. Did he know a language?. A dog conciousness compared to a human is alien. Tell us what you did leo did you look at yourself or see other alien or did you go up into the sky and go onto a ship or wake up from the human sim on an alien ship. Or were you a galaxy or something alien like that

But where is the line between human Consciousness and Consciousness itself? The human "feel"? But what is that? Awareness is still going go be awareness no matter how you slice it. Thus - alien consciousness is no different than human consciousness. And no - to Leo's story about reality being a giant alien consciousness - well yes - Pure Consciousness is alien to that of a human level of consciousness- but that is only from the perspective of the human.

does alien consciousness transcend solipsism? can you truly experience the consciousness of another being?

@Francis777 Now, what I did was VERY dangerous: I bought two 30mg bottles of ayahuasca and took some every single day. The reason this was dangerous: You go too deep and it could have led to suicide and other physical consequences. This almost happened. Doing a psych everyday is not advised. To answer your question directly: There are entirely new ways to experience the infinity of consciousness, on your own, without awaiting the experience of another. This includes Leo and any other psychedelic user. First and foremost, you have to realize that your MIND is UNIQUE and INFINITE, including your GENETICS and ANCESTRY. This, by itself, can lead to dramatically different and profound experiences that only you can experience. With that being said, here is just ONE experience that I've had: It's not the craziest. But, so far, the most profound. Infinite Marvel: With just a slurp of ayahuasca left, I decided to take the last bit from my small vile and went to sleep. Ayahuasca, for whatever reason, exhausts me. So, I trip during my sleep. While taking a nap, I slightly opened my eyes. When I do this, I know I'm prone to see some very strange occurrences. Before, it was spirit orbs and/or ghosts. But, this one was VERY strange. I lift my eyelids for a few seconds and to my amazement, I see consciousness do something I've never seen before. It was the most profound thing I've witnessed in my entire life and unfortunately, I was only given just a few seconds as a reward. It was consciousness as what I describe as INFINITE MARVEL. It was one of the most beautiful forms of consciousness you can ever witness that words cannot describe. But I'll try: Imagine a beautiful crystal that takes up your visual field. Within its core, is an alien-like black color that I'm having trouble describing. It's the most BEAUTIFUL color that is shaping my entire visual field. In its outer layers, is an infinite spectrum of INFINITE BEAUTY: It was MARVELING ITSELF. Consciousness was basking in infinite love and infinite beauty, in a completely UNIQUE WAY, while intelligently FULLY CONCIOUS AND AWARE OF ITSELF. It was in an INFINITE BEAUTIFUL HEAVEN! Then it ended... And after some contemplation..... I realized my entire body was INFINITE MARVEL... But, I'm not fully awake to it yet. .... Now go take some DMT!

@Clarence INFINITY is INFINITY for a REASON. You don't need ANYONE ELSE awakenings to have your own UNIQUE and PURELY profound experience. I have had awakenings that have not been discussed on the forum and YOU CAN TOO! You don't need alien consciousness right now. What you are truly after is infinity, not Leo.

DMT instantly wipes away materialism and for me that understanding really doesn't set in until a day or two after. It's like being born for the first time from my Mother. It's all me, and it's unending. what if alien consciousness is like, crossing the gap between another perspective. Escaping my stream of consciousness. Is that beyond solipsism? GPT The profound experiences and realizations that individuals report after using DMT can indeed challenge materialistic worldviews, offering a starkly different perspective on consciousness and reality. The sensation of being "reborn" and perceiving the self as a continuous, unending presence is a powerful one and echoes many mystical and spiritual experiences across various cultures and times. When you mention the idea of an "alien consciousness" and "crossing the gap between another perspective," it seems to delve into the realm of theories that suggest the possibility of accessing different streams of consciousness or even other dimensions of existence. This could be interpreted in a few ways: Metaphorical Crossing: It might be metaphorically speaking to the idea of empathizing or understanding a consciousness that is radically different from our own, or experiencing a perspective that seems "alien" compared to our typical human experience. Literal Interpretation: Some might take the idea of "alien consciousness" more literally, contemplating the notion of encountering non-human intelligences, which is a common theme in DMT trip reports. This would represent a profound expansion of the self, if one were to truly experience the world as a completely different entity. Philosophical Exploration: Philosophically, if one were to "escape" their stream of consciousness and experience the world as another being, it would indeed move beyond the confines of solipsism, which traditionally holds that only one's own mind is sure of existence. If one could genuinely experience another's perspective, it would imply a shared or interconnected reality. Ontological Questions: This also touches on deep ontological questions about the nature of being and existence. If consciousness can "cross" into other streams, what does that imply about the individuality of consciousness? Is there a larger, collective consciousness that can manifest in myriad forms? These ideas are at the frontier of human understanding and are explored in various fields, including philosophy of mind, consciousness studies, and even speculative fiction. While DMT experiences can provide individuals with personal insights that feel utterly convincing, interpreting and integrating these insights into a coherent worldview remains a personal journey. As with all profound experiences, there is the dual challenge of articulating them in a way that makes sense within our shared reality and ensuring that any insights gained are constructive and enriching to one's life.

I see. I'm just trying to get an understanding. If a human is capable of it then it can't be alien?. If its extra-terrestrial that would mean he literally left the planet. We are all aliens to other beings on other planets. Furthermore all forms of consciousness are "alien" to another. In fact your consciousness is "alien" to mine. I can see it being radically different and "higher" than normal everyday human consciousness. If I am God than I am already not human and therefore have alien consciousness already. If I call God an alien. Very interesting and radical stuff. This forum is great. Thanks for all your feedback my dudes.

I believe he means a type of consciousness that is so radically different that you could call it other worldly, that's why he says alien. Because it holds zero recognition within human consciousness, therefore it is extra-terrestrial.

@UnlovingGod @Leo Gura I think you guys mean "alien" as in"unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful." and NOT "relating to or denoting beings supposedly from other worlds; extraterrestrial."

Anyone know how reality is created? What is the exact mechanism? Or is this an inherent mystery? I've heard Leo talk about how on a psychedelic you can see how you are creating reality around yourself. I've experienced this too but I have forgot and it wasn't clear. Can anyone explain? All there is is consciousness. So when you raise your consciousness to higher and higher levels (maybe to alien consciousness?) Do you become aware of how consciousness creates reality?

But would he have the courage? If they are intelligent and more advanced, would the average alien take 5-MeO-DMT knowing that they have even more to lose and that it would be even more traumatic than for a human?

Not sure if this has been discussed yet on the forum as the search function isn't working for me. But if you're not familiar there have been ongoing alien sightings and supposed attacks and abduction attempts in the Peruvian jungle. There are numerous interviews of locals online, many giving very convincing accounts. They report seeing alien beings hovering around, flying down into the jungle using what seems to be non-human tech. They're resistant to bullets and can have reportedly stunned and knocked people unconscious with some sort of laser or light weapon. This is a brief summary of the reports, feel free to google around. I'm not saying I'm totally convinced about the sightings, but based on the reports from locals, there is simply no rational explanation. Very strange, at the least. Anyway, two Americans, one of which is fairly well known within the UFO community I believe, travelled to the location of the sightings with the intention of doing much more thorough investigations, interviews and hopefully seeing the beings themselves. They have just finished their expedition and we're currently waiting for their findings in the coming days and weeks.

@Davino I do speak from direct experience. I think that the mistake I make is that I want to go as far as him in the domain of God-Realization. I want to reach a complete understanding of God and of Alien Infinity. He repeated on the forum that nobody understood these things better than him, that nobody even knew what it was, that he was the most Awake Being on this planet… things like that (I'm not using his exact words). I think that's fine because from my observations, it is true. But I still want to get to these levels of Awakenings. Maybe I focus on going as far as him too much. That's quite a goal I unintentionally set to myself, which is to make that sentence (''I'm the most''… God-Realized, Infinitely Conscious or whatever) not true anymore. So in my trips, I first Awaken normally, but I then I start wondering how far I went or am going - thus, next to Leo (still in his awakenings before alien consciousness, because I haven't reached that yet). That is why my trips get tainted the way they do. So that's not Leo per se I need to let go of, but the desire of making his statement, that there is only one person who has gone this far in understanding Consciousness, stop being correct. It might actually be very hard for me to fully let that go. It's kind of a dream I'm asked to give up on.

Human mind exist within infinite mind, and is dualistic by nature, that’s why it cannot have infinite comprehension. Because to have infinite intellect your mind needs to become infinity. human mind only exists because it is defined by limits, if it wasn’t, it wouldn’t be human mind, it would be infinite mind. Even what Leo talks about with alien mind will still be within limits, just less/different.