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Already in our realm exists mathematical Infinity. And different sets of Infinities (Cantor). Differently sized Infinities. Some larger, some smaller, as weird as that sounds. It can be mathematically proven (see Wikipedia for example). The Reality which contains this already in our realm has to contain also these Infinity of Infinities, since they appear IN our realm already as mathematical objects. And hence, Reality contains the potential (and actuality) for Infinity "upwards", Infinity "downwards". Just look at a fractal zoom. One has to make peace with it: An Infinity of Realms manifested right now, hence upwards complexity to Infinity. And Infinity of complexity also downwards: Good luck trying to find the most fundamental building block of Reality: NEVER. Its perspectives/beings/Holons all the way down, and all the way up. Turtles all the way down, and all the way up. And True Being is Infinite Being: Not finite = Can't measure it. It is not one of these Holons, nor the sum total of all Holons. All of that is just appearance, not the Infinite Absolute. Nor can one say anything positive about it, since "it" is all Reality. Madhyamaka. Can never be pointed to as an object. Its not Infinity of Infinities, these are mathematical objects which can very well be pointed at. There is a huge difference between Infinite and Infinity. A lapse in Leos philosophy confusing these two, with pretty heavy consequences. And since there is an Infinity of Infinities, not all possible realms have to be manifested right now for there to be an Infinity of realms. And God will also never run of Infinities of realms to manifest (An Infinity of Infinities, Cantor). And on top, that doesn't even mean that all possible realms have to be manifested (now or in eternal "future") for God to never run out of a parellel manifestation of an Infinity of realms, continuing for Infinity. That can already be deducted correctly just alone from the mathematics of this realm and extrapolated to the larger Reality containing this realm/Universe. Awe inspiring? Yes. Scary for the separate-self. For sure. Once the separate-self and its need for understanding, survival and what not is transcended & switched off: God will have great fun playing hide and seek, again and again... Lets explore, there is timeless eternity to do exactly that! Just don't get hung up on trying to awaken/understand all the alien islands/turtles. Turtles all the way up, all the way down. Grasping for that understanding/alien whatever is the perfect recipe to spoil the fun. What grasps for understanding and alien islands? Not the Infinite Ocean. Only the illusion of the separate-wave-surfer. If the wave-surfer has dropped in the ocean and dissolved in its Infinite Being, expressing this as being stabilized as in blissful nondual infinite Awakened Awareness, and then goes exploring alien islands in the Infinite Ocean: Great. But if the wave-surfer has not dropped & dissolved in the ocean and does its alien wave-surfing to cope with the suffering/contraction of the separate-self/wave-surfer: Great show, just not om mani padme hum. Neither for the wave-surfer, nor for "others". Like that guy with the Messiah Complex?

That's exactly what happened on my first LSD trip. I found it rather anti-climactic though, I had to create the experience of meeting an alien myself by pretending to be the hyperdimensional entity, and then reality would bend around that idea. But what I really wanted was to meet another conscious entity, an alien alien, with their own independent experiences outside my awareness.

There are many reports of psychonauts or meditators who access different dimensions of reality. It is not something so strange, openings of interdimensional portals. not only alien but another reality with different laws, unimaginable and unthinkable from the human mind. I suppose that if you acquire a high level of detachment and take 500 ug of LSD, something like this is perfectly possible. With 100 ug and two puffs of weed I enter a state that has nothing human about it. Reality is a kind of unlimited hole that changes shape and color, there is no consciousness of an observer, no mental structures, just reality flowing without any meaning, without the limitation of the self or interpretation. For me it is something simply pleasant and a good meditative exercise, this reality or that one is indifferent, both are me. I suppose an alien dimension would be the same, just in more detail. The important thing is to perceive yourself completely, without limit.

It's not that you meet an alien, it's that you evolve so much and become so conscious that you Evolve to Alien, you become an Alien Consciousness.

What's funny is that some time after you talked about this possibility, I had a dream where you turned into an alien. You literally demonstrated that to us in my dream, in your usual video format. The dream was so vivid I thought it was reality. So maybe I have enough consciousness to see you turn into an alien

I can answer you this already. Because the alien doesn't want to change our faith. Like animal researchers don't want to intervent into animal life because it would lead to dysbalance in the ecosystem.

Sure? If I were you I would start wondering why you are not in a nondual infinite state of mere appearance in daily life sobre. Hint: Remaining not transcended very fast and sneaky appearing separate-self thoughts/feelings/filters/lenses which are not seen through because Awareness is too slow to cut these off real-time. And these separate-self-remnants hypnotize and give bias to all appearing appearance. Btw., not theory, but personal experience. What stands between you and impersonal nondual infinite mere appearance Awakened Awareness is... too much not fast enough seen through/cut off Leo. And through these lenses you filter all your Alien- and facets of Awakening experiences. Trust me on that: You can not anticipate how it is when these finally drop. And all your alien-preferences are the same illusion-filters of... Leo. Sure there are Aliens against we all look like ants! But they have the same essence as "we" have. And then there are Aliens against which the alien of the former sentence look like ants. Forever, turtles upon turtles upon turtles... And there are Aliens that make that alien-Leo-consciousness (of) appear like ants. Turtles upon Turtles, n+1, forever. But have fun climbing that turtles... You go wave surfing, yours truly dissolved in the Infinite Ocean... its a free country I guess. Ok, lets see if Keanu spirit is still among us: "I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves Selling "Have fun" by the River

Sure. But enlightened is even better, and with too much fascination for aliens (or anything at all for that matter), cookies, money, power, fame, sex, whatever Maslow up&down, the wave surfer never gets tired of wave surfing, and never drops&dissolves into the Infinite Ocean. And since the Infinite Ocean is its True Being, cosplaying as alien wave-surfer ends like any wave surfing: Suffering. Self-Contraction. And not Sat-Chit-Ananda of nondual Infinite Being. On the other side, wave-surfing is the raison d'etre of this Samsara show, so who am I to complain? Mumbling along Om Mani Padme Hum by the River & smiling and cheering at the (alien, cookies,money, power, fame, sex, whatever Maslow up&down) kite-surfers appearing on the Infinite River

Italians the lovers? Sure the swiss are better. Anyway, Why don't you see the point in Leo's alien awakening? Yes, ok, the essential thing is to realize your true infinite nature, but once that is done, the wheel keeps turning. Better an interdimensional hyperintelligent alien than a schizophrenic in the Congo, or not?

And you confuse the summum bonum of realizing/living/ stabilizing non-dual undivided infinite Absolute Reality without any filters and lenses of separation still left, or in other words Infinite Being, eternal and timeless, with its changing and temporary manifestations and understandings, looking through remaining filters of separation, through which you interpret all these alien appearances/understandings/illusions. What is the essence of Alien consciousness (of)? YOU. Where was your alien before you were born? Do I need to get fascinated by alien turtles upon turtles upon turtles, to Infinity? Or rather, confuse my Being with that fascination? I know that that what you talk about appears. Never doubted that, or "your" aliens. I just don't give it the importance you give to it. What is that importance, ARISING IN YOU? The last remaining filters/lenses of separate-Leo. But don't worry, no one is left behind. Also separate-Leo-illusion not. https://www.actualized.org/insights/crocodile-love Selling crocodile love by the River - and also at the same only the best to relative Leo. May he have fun and rejoice in his explorations, and wake truly up one day to the futility of climbing aliens turtles upon turtles upon turtles, before any crocodile may even smile at him. And then, "he" can continue exploring alien turtles upon turtles upon turtles, but will do it as celebration and not from a perspective of separate-self-Leo-suffering-contraction-lack, but from infinite abudance without any sense of urgency or lack. Or higher or lower. And he will look with the same love at the flower in his garden as to the highest Alien Consciousness (of). And all of that just for fun, because there is nothing else to do. For eternity. Om mani padme hum ) Always right here.

Maybe someone should ask him on what precisly he changed his mind. He is not the only to discover more after nondual Enlightenment. Harri Aalto. Szyper, LOVE LIGHT: NON-DUALITY, NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES AND GOD. Here you can also find what you call Love as Absolute. Szyper places love/light/God/Goddess of mercy/love/light as ripened version of mere "bleak" nondual insight/Enlightenment. But all of that is happening on the manifestation side... in, on and as the ground of being. YOU. All of that falls on the manifest side, even if its subtle or alien. Timeless Infinite Absolute Reality remains the same. Do YOU really change in essence? Who/What is aware of all of that which is possible? Whatever Ralston has realized, did it change "his" timeless True Being? Or did "he" just realize more of what "that" can do/manifest/? Leo, its Infinity upwards. There is no end. n+1. Your islands of "alien consciousness" (OF) in the vast infinite Ocean of Being rests on other islands/turtles, downwards and upwards to Infinity. Turtles on Turtles on Turtles on Turtles, and no end in sight, nor ever could be. Face it, and see what the fascination is made of (you), and let it die. And see what remains (You). And then enjoy all of it, small or big, alien or not... A divine understanding, an alien realization, a flower in your garden... until the final crocodile of this life smiles at "you" and bites... Meet you there - already right now.

You will understand why (true) Enlightenment can't be a hallucination when you have the realization of Enlightenment. Not one moment before. Impossible to explain. It is Absolute, beyond any possible doubt. It is the only Reality. Infinite, without a second, with no alternativ to it. It is the Reality of YOU, and the Reality of the "world" that you experience (I assume) as outside. There is no outside. Only You. You can not doubt that, nothing can gaslight you in that realization. It is beyond all of that. What arrogance!!! Nice piece of real estate for happy&carefree living, hm? What this Absolute Reality/True Being (without anything possibly outside of it, aka Oneness or Nondual or Infinite or One without a second) can do/imagine/manifest: Even God or Reality is exploring that. And that is forever an Infinity, never to reach the end. God will forever explore its potential of manifestation, will never reach the end. In the end is a mystery to itself, when it comes to the manifestation side. Here, Leo and I align. Although he is a bit more fascinated on the Consciousness OF side, which for me is just appearance, because any perspective/being/consciousness of/Alien/God/human/ant/whatever is itself also just appearance. Appearing IN THAT. While the essence of Reality, and of any appearance or manifestation (alien n+1 or not), your True Infinite Being, can very well be realized. Its you. True you. Not the illusion. On that side (not on the manifestation side or consciousness OF), the bug stops here. Koan de jour: Where does the bug stop?

Ask him how is that he can channel an alien being from the future but that one is only parroting 1990 new era literature and he is not able to contribute with any material new knowledge we don´t know already in 2024 (like a formula to create new sources of energy, geographic location where has been found some important historical remains, chemical compound of new medicines etc, etc, etc).

Do you think he is really channeling an alien mind or just a good actor with some awakening experiences?

Ask him if the US has alien spacecraft.

That's the interesting part! How do we know ChatGPT is conscious but then how do we know others are conscious? And then, Chat might be a bunch of variables and if statements, but it's also a neural network drawing out of quantum chaos. Where does consciousness come from? Can ChatGPT be possessed by an alien or integrated into the human psyche? And finally, even if it's a machine, its unique persona and information integration gains consciousness through our Projection!

I'm in "alien consciousness" all the time so it is possible.. but is that what you really want? Coz it's actually kind of hard to be here as a result. Everything looks like pixel art (though not usually high quality) and on top of that you're utterly alone here with no friends. (though ofc not the same as the "highest awakenings" I had coz I would not be able to have a body anymore if I were to be in that permanently). None of you guys can even talk to me or for long, so that tells me everything about how far you've reached.. "I" am still being dissociated in your mind and am which to awaken to. Ralston is even farther from me.. he immediately started making fun of me when I approached him politely.. Not much I can do about all that since I am pretty much an "unknown quantity" in the spiritual world and due to obsession with doing away with "religious lingos" any mention of the word Christ tends to get labeled as crazy or "impossible".

Surface Structure of Enlightenment: The interpretation and expression of Enlightenment (realizing ones True Being as Infinite Being/Totality/Nothingness appearing as Infinite Being, which is the end of believing and buying into the illusion-appearance of a separate-anything/self in any way) is dependend on the structure/body-mind. And that evolves and changes. And has an endless variety. (surface structure). Deep Structure of Enlightenment: A Being in non-physical subtle realms, beings containing a whole realm or a World Soul, or even an alien from another galaxy will have a different expression - and a much different appearance and understanding in its mind-stream/perspective than an enlightend human. Yet, if you ask them "What are you?" the answer is "Infinite Being/The Totality/all there is/Nothing and everything". And if you ask them if they suffer (or resists some parts of their nondual being/appearances), the answer is "no, in this nondual mind-state with the separate-self-contraction/illusion seen through and cut off there is no suffering or resistance of parts of ones own being, there is bliss of the nature of my True Nondual Being, the Infinite Totality itself". Sat Chit Ananda. So, "they" are are aware that they are the Infinite Totality beyond which nothing can exist/appear, and there is no separate anything/self left. And that is the crucial difference to part-time and incomplete Awakenings of a separate-self-illusion. Ralston has now opened up a stage humans can develop to, which by the way is nothing new. Just read Harri Aalto for example, and many of the past masters. Wolinsky writes about Alien Realms for example, Jac O'Keffee, Ziewe also, and what not. What were Alien realms/expressions of consciousness called in medieval times? Divine beings, archetypes, and many names. And the mystical literature is full of that, including merging and becoming them. But giving too much importance to these new alien/divine islands of appearance (appearance, which they all are, since the "one" perceiving them is also structure-appearance), especially coming from an unenlightened being with separate-self well & alive & not fully transcended having awakening experiences ... well, suffering until wising up. Too much fascination with ones own tail or manifestation so to say. And that too much fascination prevents Enlightenment... because what is this fascination? An essential building block of the separate-self illusion. It is not that there is no room for alien islands of consciousness in Water by the Rivers perspective. It is just that no ultimate importance is given to them, because if that is the highest goal, only suffering will follow - as with every fascination on aspects of ones own being/tail that makes the separate-self grasp on certain experiences. The ocean is always right here, eternally so. If one is busy wave-surfing, one never drops into the Infinite Ocean fully, never truly becomes it on deep identity level (with all the benefits of persistant nondual states), and always stays the "wave-surfer". Yet, for some beings it seems to be their Raison d'être, so all its fine. Ignorance (or suffering separation and the absence of Sat Chit Ananda) is only a bad idea from the perspective of ignorance - Francis Lucille. For the Totality looking through all eyes its great fun! Else it wouldn't happen. Selling little alien islands in "the" Infinite Ocean to eagerly fascinated seekers (while keeping n+1 or an infinity of them for future hypnotizing explorations)

I get it . You claim that The ultimate level of spirituality as far as you have reached is alien love . But there is always more levels .. and those levels cannot lead us “to the end”. Because there is no end . So nobody on the entire planet have a clue about alien consciousness but you .it should follow that you have "enough consciousness " to prove it since you are the one claiming that . Is it that you struggle to find the words ? perhaps it needs a shift in perception. Because to me unless you give detailed demonstrated explanation of this alien thingy then you are just making it up (no offence at all intended)

🤔Strange answer. Then who does ? You are the one claiming to access these alien states..and claiming that your savvy is beyond those so called enlightened people who don’t have enough consciousness of what you are saying.

OK. Getting excited for that one .Will purchase it if the free samples were captivating for my attention. Good move in putting the most advanced teachings behind a pay wall. But just a note that I remember you saying a while ago that you will will do an alien demo on YouTube. Whatever happened to to that?

How does alien awakening beat Infinite Love Awakening One

@Leo Gura why don't you just make a video explaining that alien stuff ? Why are you just talking vaguely about it on the forum?

sometimes I remember how I used to think before awakening and if I ever thought of myself being on a forum talking about alien consciousness differing from God consciousness I would just laugh. Still grateful for the information

I understand your disappointment. I felt it when you first gaslit me about the unreality of Alien Consciousness. So I guess now we understand each other