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I'll be increasing my consumption of veggies, but I have this recent objection to doing this, and it goes like this: If I'm to eventually go vegan and just eat plant-based food every day, and more people are going vegan, am I actually contributing to deforestation and inequality? Because My new demand for veggies would, together with vegans, influence the supply. And those suppliers would have to, depending on what fruits and veggies I and people want, clear land (deforestation) to create agriculture for veggies. the more demand for veggies, the more deforestation, which encourages an increase in cheaper labor. I've also recently watched a documentary on plants possibly having sentience, and I'm feeling a bit uneasy about eating them now. Any insight into this?

Considering the number of people who claim to be "awake," most of whom contradict each other (exclaiming "their truth"), it should be apparent that there are many levels of "awake;" and few of which are actually Truly Awake. "Contradictions in perspective among those Seeing the profound do not occur" – Taranatha. More than 99.9% people on this planet are asleep,...95% don't even realize it's a Dream. "We have to learn to know what rhythm we're in, how to ride with it, how to shift; to sense what rhythm others are in, and how the different rhythms are complementary or discordant" - Gabrielle Roth. "What Rhythm are you in?" Jonathan Horan "Everything in the universe has a rhythm; everything dances" Maya Angelou "Where are you on the potentially endless wave of human evolution?" Ken Wilbur "To honestly inquire into our rhythmic signature, and realizing it, we acquaint ourselves with our place, and unique pathway to liberation." Gata de Aztlán There are several models to determine what level you're at,...such a Spiral Dynamics. At SD 9 (Coral), one is Truly Awake,...at SD 8 (Turquoise) one is Truth Realized,...at SD 7 (Yellow) one is Self-Actualized. "Only one in a hundred people become fully self-actualized because our society rewards motivation primarily based on esteem, [superficial] love and other social needs" Abraham Maslow Yes,...many First-tier Thinkers believe that there must be many "stages" beyond Coral,...but how can that be,...what's more awake then Awake? Many seek to "know themselves,"...and yet it is impossible to know Who you are, until you realize When you are. The crux is,...to realize When you are necessitates absolute honesty,...and Liberation from sentience. The senses can only know the past. "Those who are greatly deluded about enlightenment are sentient beings." Dōgen "The person who gathers knowledge through the six senses is categorized by the Buddha as a lunatic." Sabbe Putajjana Unmattaka. "The senses do not know, but man believes that his senses do know--and in that belief lies man's confusion" - Walter Russell Sentient Beings include all those in the lower 6 substance levels of Spiral Dynamics. Thus, SD 5 (Orange) considers themselves 'awake" compared to the Absolutist SD 4 (Blue), and SD (Green) believe they're "Woke" compared to the Individualists SD 5 (Orange) and all Others. Only at Yellow (SD 7) do entities open to learning at any time and from any source, like bees that gather nectar from many flowers. Millions and millions claim to be spiritually awake, yet I'd bet that 99.9% have no idea what the words spiritual or awake actually imply. One cannot realize Spirituality through the patriarchal paradigms of Form, nor what is Awake while dreaming. To be Literally Awake is quite easy to define,...and that definition applies to everyone. To be awake is to have a Conscious Awareness of the Absolute Present. Sentient Beings can only perceive the past. NO ONE can see, taste, touch, hear, smell, or think in the Present. "The senses do not grasp reality in any way." Socrates Dreams are the perceptions of ego while asleep in Duality. There is no dreaming without the Drego, typically occurring at night, and ego, typically occurring in the day. All dreams are about the past; extentions of patriarchal energy that can only perceive motion in one direction. Patriarchal energy is Yang, Particle, Form in denial of Yin, Wave, Empty of Form. The Feminine of Duality is not a gender of Form, but the Wave of a Particle. "The Buddha Shakyamuni often told his disciples to regard all phenomena as dreams." Gata de Aztlán "Treat everything you perceive as a dream." says the Lojong proverb to uncover Bodhicitta. In the later part of the fifth century BCE, Sakyamuni was said to be spending an evening with a family, and in the early hours of the morning, someone asked him, "'Do you dream?" Sakyamuni replied, “I used to dream; then I became Buddha (a Tathagata). The word Buddha is generally agreed to have come from the root bud meaning to be aware of, or awaken. Sakyamuni Buddha was thus an Awakened One. Buddha referred to himself as a Tathagata, one who doesn't Come and Go. "Thoughts come and go. Feelings come and go. Find out what it is that remains." Ramana Maharshi To paraphrase Adyashanti, a true Spiritual Master is one who shakes you awake, not one who tells you how to dream better. "A real Master is not a teacher: a real Master is an awakener. His function is totally different from a teacher; his function is far more difficult. And only very few people can stay with a Master because to wake up after millions of lives is not an ordinary feat; it is a miracle. And to allow somebody to wake you up needs great trust, great surrender." Osho

"without taking earthly action"...is a First-tier concept. For example,...Meditators HATE me,...when I bring up the subject of Non-meditation. They have invested many, many years sitting,...it has become their opium. The most threatening thing for First-tier thinkers is the confrontation between everything they believe to be meaningful, and the reality that it is all meaningless. “If your purpose is to medicate dukkha,...then meditate. If your wish is bodhi,...practice absolute bodhicitta.” "Free yourself from meditation, practice non-meditation" - Kyergangpa Chökyi Senge Turquoise is a game changer,..it's the Great Juncture between Sense Beings and Spiritual Beings. Thus the First-tier speculation of Second-tier value systems , and First-tier understanding of Second-tier value systems, pivots from First-tier paradigms. Clare Graves was quite correct in saying, "First-tier thinkers (first 6 substance levels of Spiral Dynamics) cannot recognize the Second-tier on their own, and react negatively if challenged; lashing out whenever it is threatened." Spiral Dynamic Value Systems attempts to be a model for determining how we make a decision and set priorities in our lives. Value Systems within the 6 lower Substance levels of SD, being rooted in the senses, always pivot from falsity,...what Buddhists call the Five Skandhas. On the other hand,..."A wise man (Turquoise SD 8), recognizing that the world is but an illusion, does not act as if it is real" Bukkyo Dendo Kyokai. First-tier thinkers believe that the Turquoise (SD 8) who doesn't take action is unhealthy,...because unlike Turquoise (SD 8) they have no comprehension that Space-Time is One,...thus, there is no action to take,...only the following of Spirit without hesitation. Turquoise (SD 8) does not seek to be directly involved to solve complex global issues, but desires Sentient Beings to become aware of their sentience for what it is. Turquoise (SD 8) realize that suffering is a consequence of the desire for things to be other than they are. Buddha did not say don't desire,...but don't desire for things to be other than they are. Sentient Beings don't understand the way things are. "The senses do not grasp reality in any way" Socrates Because high functioning Yellow (SD 7) are open to learning at any time and from any source, like bees that gather nectar from many flowers, they are among the few who can converse with Turquoise (SD 8) in an unguarded way. Turquoise (SD 8) must engage the Substance Levels in carefully orchestrated ways, or find themselves being physically threatened. "People don't like their version of reality fucked with." Jed McKenna At Turquoise (SD 8) personal truths, 'me stories,' and individual versions of reality are irrelevant. Values of Turquoise include: Life is a Dream. Unfeigned surrender to the Spirit that underlies all Form. Metasensory insight. Absolute Truth. Elevating the Conscious Awareness of Humanity. the Other Compassion. Direct Gnowledge, not Past Knowledge. Emancipation from things Divine. Recognition of the in-breath/out-breath of rhythmic balanced interchange. Holistic view - Fulcum, One Lever, Yang and Yin. Unconditional honesty. Non-sensory intuition. Impersonal. Non-meditation. Transcender. Appreciation of the One Space-Time. Humility is merely a degree of pride. Real Emotion (vs positive and negative emotion). Unfabricated Present Awareness. Flow with Spirit without hesitation. Non-sensory integrity. Realization that Higher Self may be stuck. Aware of Absolute vs Relative. Avoidance of hope and fear. Liberation from the 6 senses. Simplicity and Ease. Selfless Living. Cooperative vs Competitive. One foot in the manifest, one foot in the Unmanifest.

All those who "shoot the messenger" are caterpillars. "At the end of the day you're either a caterpillar or a butterfly, and the only way anyone will ever have even the slightest sense of what it means to be a butterfly is to become one. There are no butterfly experts among the caterpillars, despite innumerable claims to the contrary" - Jed McKenna Although I don't consider Yellow (SD 7) a butterfly, but rather those in metamorphosis,...Yellow (SD 7) has been said to be open to learning at any time and from any source, like bees that gather nectar from many flowers. Quotations and aphorisms can serve as a mentoring device for those who venture into the liminal zone between duality’s sciential sentience and the sapiential consciousness of authentic spirituality. “To read quotations is to live in a planet with multiple suns!” Mehmet Murat Ildan The quotes I use are never OUT OF CONTEXT with the context in which I'm using them. Using quotes both distances me from the label of being a teacher, and they often irritate narrow-minded people. Overall I'd like to connect with those who catch the point of the message, instead of drifting off with some predispositions about the messenger. "Many see a quote, and immediately form judgments about the user or the author of quote, and yet for those serious about Higher Conscious awareness, a quote is only discerned within the context the user was using it. " Gata de Aztlán “Focusing on a particular messenger (guru teacher) can be a major distraction on the spiritual path to self-liberation; it can take away from the importance of the message. The Message Is ‘Everything’.” Anon I mus Because so many have a predisposed negativity towards the messenger, I often like to separate message from the messenger; thus allowing for a more open-minded dialogue. "Following a recent State of the Union speech by President Trump, students at John Jay College were asked their opinions to a few selected quotations. The students responded unanimously, and reacting negatively, described them as warmongering, aggressive, and immature. Then the pollsters revealed that the quotes were actually from a previous SOTU speech of President Obama, the participants were surprised by theie responses." Cabot Phillips, Campus Reform Quotes can arouse and open new ways of seeing or observing. Just because I agree with U.S. President Ulysses Grant for saying that 'church property should be supported entirely by private contributions to keep church and state forever separate,' does not mean going into a debate about the life of Mr. Grant. Quotations should be about the message within the quotation, not the profile of the messenger. “In the garden of literature, the highest and the most charismatic flowers are always the quotations.” Mehmet Murat Ildan Serious seekers don't get obsessed or anally retentive over a messenger of a quote,...serious seekers look at the quote, and note if it (not the author) has value to the conversation. “A good quote is a beautiful bird! Wherever you meet with it, you will start flying with it!” Mehmet Murat Ildan "Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can fly." Napoleon Bonaparte

Much of Spiral Dynamics beyond the 6 Substance Levels are speculative for First-tier thinkers. Nevertheless, there are some pointers,...such as the characteristics and definitions of Turquoise (SD 8). Turquoise views life as a dream. This is because Turquoise has surrendered to the spiritual dimension underlying all Form. This synonymous with Bodhicitta,...those who uncover the Conscious Awareness of Bodhi perceive everything in Duality and Oneness as a Dream. “He who thinks of mind in terms of One or Many casts away the light and enters delusion” - Saraha Lao-tzu said, "If you wish to unite with the heart and mind of the Mysterious Mother, you must integrate yin and yang within" - Lao Tzu From my observations, more than 99.9% of humanity don't have a clue regarding Yang/Yin or Who's Who in duality. For example, the Feminine of Duality is NOT a gender of Form, but the Wave of a Particle. Walter Russell mentioned, "As man unfolds from sensed man to spiritual man he gradually becomes aware of the two-way motion of all effect." This is Turquoise (SD 8). Turquoise (SD 8) does not view "limitations" as the Substance levels do,...nor as Yellow (SD 7). Turquoise has transcended the pyramid of Maslow's Needs. I'm not saying there are no limitations, but that those who are not Turquoise (SD 8) or Coral (SD 9) would not comprehend them. Some other points,...there is zero Spiritual about SD 1-6,...or those identified with Maslows Heirarchy within that pyramid,...although more accurately put, SD 1-6 experience life through divided-spirituality,...the patrifocal half,...from which sentience lives. There are ZERO Spiritual teachers among SD 1-6,...some examples of caterpillars teaching caterpillars to be butterflies include: Neale Donald Walsch, Thich Nhat Hanh, Mother Teresa, Malala, and All Advocates of Inter-faith Movements. Thich Nhat Hanh is a great example of a high functioning Green in denial,...which is highly attractive to other Green's. Thich Nhat Hanh is in essences a psuedo Buddhist who grew a business giving Westerners, especially SD 6, what they want, reinforced with slogans like "Community is the next Buddha." No devotee of Thich's New Age rhetoric have any serious interest in waking up in this lifetime. As for "mystics." There are zero people at Turquoise (SD 8) who are mystics. Mysticism pretty much ends with Green (SD 6),..although some Early Yellow (SD 7) may carry residue until they emancipate themselves from paradigms connected with things divine. To realize Turquoise (SD 8) all things "divine" must be let go. Turquoise (SD 8) is synonymous with Avalokitesvara's Dharma Gate,...and liberation from sentience,...the 6 senses. Also,...Turquoise (SD 8) have no reason to meditate. Of course Greens who have invested years in "sitting," you will shout you down for saying so. A Clare Graves quote impressed me, "First-tier thinkers (first 6 substance levels of Spiral Dynamics) cannot recognize the Second-tier on their own, and react negatively if challenged; lashing out whenever it is threatened."

First,...Sentient Beings attach a myriad of meanings to spirituality,...none of which are accurate. Spirit....from the Latin spiritus, or breath,...relates to the in-breath (yang, masculine energy) and out-breath (yin, feminine energy) of duality's phenomenal world,...that is, how this illusory Dream reality breaths. Spirit ONLY exists within the perception of separation. Without separation, there is no Spirit,..no Duality,...and thus no One. Without the Past, Spirit does not exist. There is no Spirit in the Present, just like there is no energy or mass in Undivided Light. Spirit is a manifestation of energy (positive and negative) intiated by the illusion of separation which instantly seeks union with the Unfragmented,...which it can NEVER DO,...because the separation is simply a Dream (not real). Spirituality is a recognition of Spirit,...not something that can be known or perceived through the senses or comprehended through the intellect (the 6th sense). "Sensing is but an electric tension set up by the seeming division of one into many which "strain" to fulfill their desire for oneness" - Walter Russell “He who thinks of mind in terms of One or Many casts away the light and enters delusion” - Saraha A Spiritual Adventure is an undertaking without belief. Experience initiated with belief, can only be experienced through the conditions of that belief, and thus not a direct spiritual adventure. "Man's sense-seeing with his eyes binds him to the illusion of Duality" - Walter Russell "As man unfolds from sensed being to spiritual being he gradually becomes aware of the two-way motion of all effect (Yang and Yin)" - Walter Russell. Only Sentient Beings believe in Oneness. Spiritual Beings, such as Bodhisattva's and Turquoise (SD 8) wish for the liberation of Sentient Beings from their sentience. "Love can never dominate the world until man ceases to live a primarily sensed existence and knows the Light of the spirit within him" - Walter Russell Higher asks, "What is Reality?" "The senses do not grasp reality in any way" Socrates

remember said "if greens are not ready for a discussion about heart, it might be that they are still stuck in blue - heart chakra can be emotionally perceived if you are not ready to discuss heart chakra with green, maybe you are not there yet? sorry to be that blunt." Thanks for proving my point. Yes,...I understand it can be very difficult to hear that what you believe to be meaningful, is actually meaningless. At least Yellow (SD 7) would be open to learning at any time and from any source, like bees that gather nectar from many flowers,...the Substance Levels are as caterpillars,...feeding off the land,...without the slightest idea of what a butterfly is. As I quoted from Clare Graves, "First-tier thinkers (first 6 substance levels of Spiral Dynamics) cannot recognize the Second-tier on their own, and react negatively if challenged; lashing out whenever it is threatened." The lower 6 Substance Levels of Spiral Dynamics are tough places to be,...they believe they know all these things relative to their SD level, yet at Second-Tier all those beliefs are irrelevant. The lower 6 Substance Levels of Spiral Dynamics are Sentient levels,...Sentient Beings in need of liberation from their sentience (as the Bodhisattva vow implies). "The senses do not grasp reality in any way" Socrates "Recognize that everything you see and think is a falsehood, an illusion, a veil over the truth" - Lao-tzu "The senses do not know, but man believes that his senses do know--and in that belief lies man's confusion" - Walter Russell “All that I have tried to understand to the present time has been affected by my senses; now I know these senses are deceivers, and it is prudent to be distrustful after one has been deceived once.” René Descartes "True understanding does not follow from the sense-organs." Buddha "The only thing I do know is that when you open your eyes and look out into the world, there's one thing you are not seeing, and that is Now." Hinze Hogendoorn “Phenomenally, we can know no present, as it must be in the ‘past’ before our senses can complete the process of recording it, leaving only a suppositional past and future; noumenally, there is no question of ‘past’ or ‘future,’ but only a presence that knows neither ‘time’ nor ‘space.’ ” Wei Wu Wei "The entire illusion was never really there, The six sense-organs are also thus." Guan Yin/ Avalokitesvara "the ego is a monkey catapulting through the jungle; totally fascinated by the realm of the senses....if anyone threaten it, it actually fears for its life. Let this monkey go. Let the senses go." Lao-tzu "Do not seek it in the visible, or you'll be at it forever with no real results. It's not visible, it's not part of the senses, it's before the senses, prior to the senses." - Bentinho Massaro "you think the material universe is all there is? What mysteries lie beyond the reach of your senses? Who are you Dr Strange?" Ancient One; Dr Strange 2016 "Love can never dominate the world until man ceases to live a primarily sensed existence and knows the Light of the spirit within him" - Walter Russell

All Being is sentience. ❤️ No wonder It's on my tail hehe. Turn TV on Alice in wonderland choping Dragon's head off lol. It is Just insane. It is Just pure awe. Ok I beleive I figure out rejoyce it is not so about Me how much it is for Reality. That's Why Humanity and Why I appear to be human. I improve All improves.I really hope so. Have faith in good.

I am not quite sure what you mean. Perception to me is Being, I would say all Sentience is Being, but not all Being is Sentience.

Yeah plant is always in bliss. It doesn't "know" It's plant doesn't "know" anything. Yeah next life plant or some rock. That one which comprehends and perceives is separated self cause of Suffering. In Truth you do not perceive you are sentience. God is not separated from creation. Can't really perceive anything don't I? But have to really beleive in that so BS Game can be pulled. What senses really are continuation of Love from Source. I am that Source and Everything, completelly alone. I will never be loved that's the only reason for deep sadness. I am Love itself yet as Source I Will never be Loved. That's the reason of slumber, when you are connected with Heart ofcourse you can't beleive any "other" can really Love you. Other is already you. Talking with myself, sorry.

@Scholar What do you think about perception = sentience? In the sense, the delusion is required, thus making the intelligence of a plant, incomprehensible, based on the illusion one is comprehending (a delusion which the plant is not under)

I am not a mind-body dualist so to me the concept of perception is delusional. There is simply a certain state of being, it is not "caused" by a brain. It seems like a certain state of being, namely sentience, is correlated to what we interpret to be a very specific form of interactions between wavefunctions. It is so particular that it can exist in the same form, namely the brain, with almost the exact same type of interaction between wave-functions, and still be present or not be present. This is the case in deep sleep, when what we call sentience is not present at all. The form of being that is present at that point is not sentience, it does not contain suffering or what our standard definition of "experience" is. Again, that state is so particular and specific that even brain-activity is not equal to it, as the brain is very active during deep sleep. The assumption is that this particular state of being, which we call sentience, is very particular to survival mechanisms, namely ones that require the complex nagivation of reality by immediate means. The organism of the human, even in the state of deep sleep, is far beyond the complexities any plant can provide. Of course plants are Being, thus they are consciousness, yet I do not think it is likely that they are what we consider to be sentience. They for example do not require ego, they do not require to suffer, they do not interact with other beings in the same way we do. They cannot run away from prey, they do not require a fear of death. All they require is deep sleep. A plant, in other words, does not require the illusion of duality, thus there is no difference between destroying a rock and destroying a plant. The intelligence contained in a rock is beyond comprehension, the difference from rock to plant is so slim it would make no difference, so is the difference between rock and human. I do not think intelligence implies sentience, rather sentience is a very particular kind of intellgence. In this way intelligence cannot be seperated from being/consciousness, but it can be seperated from sentience. Of course there is something going on in plants that the vast majority of humans are not currently aware of, but the same is true for a rock and the air your breath. Sure, plants might have a particular form of intellgence, they might resonate to different states of being, like particular aspects of human sentience. There could be plant sentience, but there could also be rock sentience, ocean sentience and so forth. I find that most people have a tendency to correlate a certain way of structured movement, which they call intelligence, to what they are in their waking state. But what about what there is in deep sleep? What would it mean to end a life that was in deep sleep for all of eternity? A life that could not remember anything, a life that was so immersed in being it simply was pure being. What would be the difference between ending that life and not ending it? I would argue in a similar way as far as AI goes, however I do not really believe that AI is possible in the way we think it is. Computers are Being no matter what, but when they become Sentience is to me a question of when there is a certain interaction of wavefunctions, a very particular kind, so particular we cannot even tell the difference between the waking state and the deep-sleep state. How I look at it: If the each neuron in the brain was a lamp, the light the lamp produces is not sentience, rather the interaction between all the light all the lamps produce is what causes sentience. A very specific kind of interaction is needed for a very specific kind of state of being. Infact, sentience is not "caused" by the interaction of the light, rather the interaction of the light is sentience. It is that particular kind of being, looked at by itself "interpreted" as one of those very interactions. You can also flip it all and say sentience causes the interactions, it doesn't really matter. Computers lack the lamps and they alsp lack the light. Computers are more like a system of strings that just pull on each other. Very rigid, no access to genuine Nothingness or Creativity. The Neurons, the Lamps and the Lights, are in a way directly linked to the "First Cause", Nothingness, Creativity. They are connected to the spark, not because of how they move or what kind of interactions they produce, but because of what they are. Basically, I think computers will only become sentient and therefore genuinely creative once we change the physical structure of the computers, maybe some sort of biological computers or quantum computers. Whatever the "brain" is "accessing" is not at all currently present in computers. This all is kind of obsolete to explain because in the end it is only an explanation in a materialistic framework. Certain kind of wave-formations (imagine perception-waves/being-waves) ARE Sentience. Neurons do not create or cause these wave-formations, rather they "tune" into them. In the end they are not truly seperate and the Neurons themselves are the waves aswell. While computers are also these waves, they do not tune into the same kind of wave-formations, much like a rock isn't. But even that explanation just misses the point, trying to explain this is like using a limited amount of rope to bind two poles together. Once you bind the rope to one pole, you cannot reach the other pole. Or, once you reach the other pole, the previous knot slips. I never said Plants aren't intellgience or not alive. I don't create dualities like life vs non-life or intelligence vs non-intelligence. A rock contains and is just as much alive and intelligent as a plant is, which is why I don't think sentience is correlated to intelligence or life. Sentience is a particular kind of being that is not present in plants, because a plant is not playing the same game we are. The plants "survival" game is so radically different, whatever state of being the plant is is foreign to our notions of suffering, ego, resistence and so forth. And also, being vegan is the best thing you can do for plants. If you say that plants are sentient, you would also have to say that each of your limbs might be sentient. Your hand grows all on it's own, in fact it will grow in all sorts of ways depending on what food you provide it and where it will find resistance. Is your hand it's own sentient being? If not, why not? Why does one body have to contain one sentience? Why do you think that different parts of your brain do not have their own sentience? How do you know each cell does not have it's own sentience?

Thank you, Serotoninluv! "Because we feel understood," yeah!, oMarcos! I believe "enlightenment" is a feeling of boundless warm hearted tenderness, throughout. ? i n f i n i t e h e a r t ? w a r m t ~ e ~ n ~ d ~ e ~ r ~ n ~ e ~ s ~ s ? I believe we are both spirits living in mortal bodies, and bodies living in immortal spirits. Both. And I believe that the Feeling Of Tenderness Is Nonduality. I believe that Love is primarily a Feeling because we are primarily organic, cellular creatures. I believe that the highest level of consciousness is empathy for self and other, self as other, and other as self, both in relationship to others and in relationship to our one self. I believe that meditation is the key to enlightenment, and that both enlightenment and meditation are a state of profound humility, wherein one embraces the infinite vulnerability of living in a mortal body, made up, entirely of Pure Sentience Vulnerability Tenderness Mortality Feeling I believe that awareness is a Feeling

This topic will also include "why brains don't exist" hypothesis and his new video. First of all. This will be my observations based on my truth and the things which seems obvious to me, and can't be discarded, as Leo Gura observe things with his own mind and perception, he is also prone to erros, like any normal person. In what is reality video and now in his new video he claims reality to be an illusion, like a dream, which I have nothing against this view (excluding the "hallucination" part, which i don't think applies or to be a good analogy for anything regards reality, since hallucination is a term invented by humans, when tripping on drugs we hallucinate things, only we can observe our hallucinations, however, this is not like our dreams, our dreams are close to 'reality', so we can use the 'dream' analogy better, and dreams are not synonymous for hallucination. Now, the thing which gets me the most, is when he talks about God, yes, I get that he has this view that all of reality could be thought as God's mind and dream. But I'm sorry to point out this, but the moment he says God's will is different than ours, then there are two in the game, we and God and this is true from our relative POV, we are not one with God now, if we were there would be no point in making any video to make us one with God nor to make us contact God, how could us contact God if we were one with God already that would be no point at all. Now, look, my point in this post is to criticize something he's been saying which I found to be completely misunderstood by people, when he says "you imagine your childhood" or the way your parents are" or "aliens", I guess he mean when you really are imagining your childhood, but like he said in the new video, you don't know how your childhood really were, or how you were born, you imagine your birth because others told you it was x and y. But don't get me wrong, this is also me speaking the absolute truth, OF COURSE you were born and you imagine things later about how your birth was, your imagination was also developed through the years so is your childhood and you growing up, your childhood is never like you imagine, but it did happen in a certain way. Or else why did Leo say "when you werw born you start learning things", well you can only learn things that are external to you, and absorbed internally, period, so there was a knowledge prior to when you were born , now, were these also other parts and other minds that came from God? Well, according to his theory, yes, but then it's only a theory after all. Now, when he says, well "it's imaginary " or the alien is a projection of a mind. HE ME UST BE SAYING OF GOD'S MIND, NOT OURS. A person who born blind and deaf won't have the capacity to imagine anything in their life, nor to visualize their parents, yet their parents exist without the deaf blind doing anything with its (and no matter how much LSD it takes, the deep layers this person goes,it won't imagine anything). So what we di ackniwledge here? Me, my parents, Leo Gura, etc we are individuals being created by the mind of God, not our minds. This is a deep truth validated here. So when a person asks Leo, "hey are x and y imaginary" ? I guess Leo has to be saying, in the mind of God we are its creation,.it's all Maya at the deepest root of truth, but one consciousness alone isn't doing any of this, so at the relative sense our parents Are Indeed real and external to us. So are the walls in iur house and everyone else even tho, at the deepest sense, we are all interconnected through the mind of God we are one. Our subconscious isn't creating any of this, but the superconsciousness is, and we indeed are somehow separated from it while we are at this form as a soul, and this is ok, no problem with it. Also, I'll point out this, when he says about aliens being "another yourself", I don't think so, I don't think other proplepeople are even the same as ourself, just because we came from th3 same source doesn't mean we are all the same, even identical twins are distinct existences. For you to be talkimg to yourself, you have to be looking to a mirror and talking to yourself,at the moment you talk to another person, by all means it's not yourself, it can't read your thoughts, it doesn't share your mind nor the things you see or imagine or the thngs you've experienced or the things yiu felt and feel. I go further to say that even if someone made a clone of Leo and his consciousness, those would still be two different separate consciousnessess, when one is talking to the other, one would still be talking to an other, anf the other would have its own consciousness,this is a deep fact,unless they shared their minds into ome vody, but even tho each one would have its own sentience and wouldn't be each other, but each would be themselves.

Reality is absurd, it is impossible. Everything that seems common, logical, obvious and mundane is magical. It is in Essence impossible and the Veil of Possibility is precisely what allows that Realness to uphold itself. To the degree that magic is seen, to the degree the common becomes the precious, the logical becomes the paradoxical, the obvious becomes the mysterious and the mundane becomes sacred is the degree to which this Realness will dissolve. The Realness of Isness is founded upon the thin Veil which obscures it's impossibility and magic. Unveiling the Veil of Reality is equivalent to unveiling reality itself. When the magic trick, so to speak, is truly seen for what it is, it cannot sustain itself. It is sustained by the very fact that it is not recognized as a magic trick. The greatest magic trick is to hide the Impossible in the Veil of Possibility. It is, for example, to take utter and pure Magic and call it e=mc², as if e=mc² in any way reduced the impossibility and presence of that magic. The mind, by giving it name, can justify it's presence. This is what Illusion is. The Veil of Isness, the Veil which makes the precious common, which makes the paradoxical logical, which makes the mysterious obvious, which makes the sacred mundane. That Veil is what allows it to Be. Abandoning the Veil is abandoning Reality. Remember what Reality was before you were born. There was no logic, there was no physical, there was no name. Growing older, that which Is became less and less mysterious to you. It became less and less like a Fairy Tale. More and more everything was explained and understood. This is not by accident, this is one way in which Reality is manfesting itself. It is by essence manifesting itself through the Faith in it's Possibility. A Faith not merely on an intellectual or emotional level, but on the level of Being. A Faith prior to language and identity. Consciousness is Realness, Consciousness is magic Through sentience there is Physicality, Worldness, Self and Other. It is pure magic disguising itself as Self-evidency. Mind is the Veil of Isness, abandon the Veil of Possibility and No-Mind will follow. Adandon the Veil of Isness by seeing the preciousness in the common, paradox in logic, mystery in the obvious and sacredness in the mundane. To see Magic in all Fascets of Reality. To see the Impossibility in Redness.

I have heard of him but haven't read any of his books. I know he made the argument from marginal cases popular: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_marginal_cases It basically states that there is no difference between animals and humans that would justify our treatment of them without justifying some form of it in the human context. Any difference we will find that we would apply to humans would make us look like psychopaths if then decided to take their right to life away. For example, someone mentally handicapped might be on the same level of intelligence and consciousness as any specific animal, if we were to take the difference in intelligence as justification to treat animals the way we treat them, we would have to accept the same for mentally handicapped people. This basically reveals a fundamental bias we have towards accepting arguments to kill other species but not accepting the same arguments when it is about our own species. The argument basically reveals that the only thing we truly care about, and why we truly care about human beings in the first place, is their capacity for sentience and suffering. After all, I can modify you in any way I want, as long as you are capable of experiencing suffering, you will not want to experience suffering. It's not like if I turn you into a cow you suddenly will be fine with someone killing you.

Why do you think it is fine to kill chicken and fish when we can eat things like mussels if we truly did need that kind of nourishment? The oceans are radically overfished, so much so that entire eco-systems are already in the process of collapsing. How can you continue doing that when you have an alternative which is less sentient? Whether you believe in animism or not does not really change the difference is sentience. When you are in deep sleep, you are still consciousness, yet you are not sentient. Only in sentience there can exist things like value and suffering, so I do not see why animism would change anything about the moral consideration of creatures which are not merely consciousness, but also contain sentience. Again, to call everything sentience would not make any sense as even in deep sleep, a human being with a fully active brain, will lose sentience. Mussels as far as we know are not sentient, and if they are, they are far less so than a chicken or a fish. More importantly, I do not think there is and can be a large scale chicken industry which will not necessarily contain a horrendous amount of suffering, which you would have to justify. The same is true for fishing in the oceans. How can you justify that when you have options that will not cause suffering, and far less environmental destruction, like mussels? More importantly, aside from justifications, why would you not choose to do the more compassionate thing, if your goal is to be compassionate? Let's say veganism was a little less healthy, how would that justify killing hundreds and hundreds of animals? How much suffering and death is the minor improvement of your life really worth? And if it is worth it, then are we not required to take those lifes which have the least capacity for suffering and sentience, namely mussels and similar beings? To me I only see appeals to futility and spiritualism, it is very easy to relativise morality when it is not you who is being killed or treated like property. People did the same with slaves of different races. The excuses you can come up with are infinite when you are protecting your own way of life.

You have a duality between hardware and software which does not actually exist in reality. The software and the hardware are one thing. The same is true for sentience/brain. We have to seperate sentience from consciousness. Consciousness is existence, all there is is consciousness, as consciousness is being itself. How sentience arises however, which is a specific aspect of consciousness, might very well be determined by the way consciousness structures itself (in this case we mean specifically by the way wavefunctions express themselves). Nothing arises from anything, the feelings you feel are equivalent to the atoms of your brain. Atomic structures are simply a way of viewing an aspect of consciousness, which in this case is motion. Notice that the material is entirely reduced to motion. Notice that all physical description can only describe motion. Notice that all equations, all physics, can only describe motion. All of these dualities, these seperations between matter and mind, happen in consciousness. They are not there, they just exist as themselves.

Yes and No at the same time. It also depends on what level of depth you ask the question. The answer must be highly nuanced and paradoxical. It must. You are asking about the very building blocks of sentience, individuality, and (unbeknownst to you) consciousness. Were you really expecting a solid, definitive "YES" or "NO?"

There probably needs to be a reappraisal of what people understand themselves to be so they don’t beat themselves up about it. Regardless as to you look at it, consciousness requires governance in a cause and effect reality such as our own, this is where inner conscious politics is important. At the inception of experience a conceptual identity is formed between consciousness and the world about the world, as sentience advances it is has a greater propensity and ability to form an idea about oneself, this single seed is the beginning of an inner identity which paves the way forward for psychological development, for better or for worse. Because it is difficult to become conscious of the ideas and corresponding identities we create in this interaction, we are not conscious of the inner maps we travel to navigate how it is we perceive and interact with the world. This leads to inevitable various forms of suffering, all misappropriations shift us ever so slightly off the path of truth and therefore internal liberty through proper governance and instead closer to falsity and therefore imprisonment to the degree that our understanding of this necessity for internal monarchy is threatened. To understand that implicit question I’m still refining my own work here and believe it has several layers (for example I think you also need to try and understand and subsequently frame what reality is simultaneously), but like many things I’d start with what I’m not and end at a place like “localised consciousness (even if we can experience non-local states), localisation of which is physically constrained by the human body. This consciousness constructs reality (I.e. perception) and through this construction as an end point to the behavioural outcomes of its capacity for synthesis here both reality and the contents of that being evolve over time. In this construction, inner identity is shaped by externally assigned identities, together these evolve the contents of its mental maps, that is, perceived terrain of what is. The physical body of consciousness possesses survival imperatives where based on prior interactions with the environment (genetically and over the lifespan), consciousness is generally used as a vehicle of expressing identity imperatives that are designed around its perceived sense of actualised survival... (much more)” All in all, even though I still have much more work ahead of me the better the frame the greater the ease by which I can dispense of faulty ideas and habits (I.e. inner/outer judgements, laziness, etc), etc. Often for me, the incorrect belief, attitude, etc is simply something that lives in an incorrect frame, meaning in this instance, it’s the misunderstanding of what consciousness is, what the brain is, etc that gives rise to other incorrect realisations. So next time I have something holding me back that doesn’t make sense I can ask myself, from what level of consciousness am I viewing this effect, problem, action, etc? In this sense, the frame creates the perceived terrain. So in response to “so I can get personality benefits...”, well it all depends on the frame. The frame sort of determines whether or not that’s going to lead to good outcomes, so if anything, I’d encourage asking questions like that (I.e. what is consciousness? What is purpose? What is the role of consciousness?). In the end, governance is going to be required where a decision needs to be made on what serves or doesn’t serve development like what you’re suggesting and these kinds of questions can aid in generating inner politics that produce more sophisticated identities which facilitate growth rather than take away. So regardless you gotta serve “me”, that’s unavoidable, but what is the frame of “me”? That’s for you to decide ?.

@Solonius It is Conscious. Of course Infinity includes both sentience and non-sentience, as that is a duality and a distinction which God imagines. God's plan is Love and Goodness. Awaken deeply to get the confirmation. Logic nor science will be sufficient. It is beyond communication or language. The confirmation of the most advanced things I teach is always: awakening. There cannot be any other way. You cannot use some dumb mechanical means to realize God's plan.

In normal day to day consciousness we think about other people as having their own separate experiences - their own consciousness. This sets the base for morality. Often, when I hear about enlightenment, it is said that all of my direct experience is a dream or imagination. So I imagine that other people also have direct experiences, but in reality they don't? The sentience of others is just a thought in the mind? Sometimes, when I take psychedelics, I feel like there is nothing else but this consciousness right now. But when I come back, it seems so crazy - there are clearly other people who seem to have their own experiences. Even when they are not in my consciousness they are doing stuff and experiencing stuff. Some of the implications of this whole 'everything is imagination' thing seem quite insane. So I am confused. Maybe you could help me to understand it better (or point out where I'm stuck). Are other people sentient??? Is it worth saving the planet for my children - or are they just non-sentient hallucinations? Could it be a possibility that taking psychedelics makes us just believe unreal things and that they are deceiving us in an even trickier way than our own psyche? Thanks a lot

The Truth of reality is that you have a mind and this mind is its own entity, it is as true as that you can sense you have a personal identity. In addition, you have a body, and this is the most obvious thing, it is something which critics rant about every time they say there is no supernatural origin. The body is like controlling a robot, your mind is in close attachment to it and as an illusion you might think it is you. Well, the mind and body are in a sort of merging even if they are two different things. If you would not have this mind of yours you would be a plain animal, you would never resist instinctive impulses and always just do the predictable, just like any animal. This is not life. But humans (can) have sentience for some reason, they can fight their own automatic drive and this conflicting force nullifies them as animals through logic. So if they are not animals what are they? A human can resist every instinct if they really would go obsessed about doing this, although this resistance can be very painful since the animal side is going against its own nature. The main lesson of this is to try to increasingly resist/rebel against the body and see what it does to the consciousness of the mind. I am all the time encouraging people to try the remedy and the result itself is the validation of my words If you cared to follow my teachings to the letter you would start to believe in me by default, it would validate itself by the result you experience in the long run. But if you are afraid of losing things, excitements of this world it might get in the way. You need to reflect on what exactly it is that you have in this world which is so wonderful and lovely and is the driving thing to why you love it. Hopefully in time you will realize the prognosis is utterly worthless, you work to die in a few decades for no more than some hormone rushes which have diminishing returns. A lost human cannot comprehend their own condition and why it is wrong and this is the main problem and why people cannot choose this path. This is perhaps why 'Children of Israel' are first most addressed, they easily fall into contemplation due to an already accumulated mental depth. You can contemplate my words objectively and your logic can at least make you uncertain of whether I am right or wrong, and then you might test my prescription for some time and experience the enhancements it gives. I do in fact give you a prescription and not a doctrine. I am like a doctor with vast knowledge within my profession who tells you what would heal your body. Unlike the doctor I am not a physician of the body but the mind. Perhaps you can call me a psychologist, although that is a human term for almost exactly what I am. Remember now that the body is not the mind and the mind is not the body. The mind of yours is something similar to a seed, it was like a seed in your body to begin with, like a mustard seed like Jesus said because it is so minuscule that you can barely see it but yet when it is full grown it is pretty impressive in size. It hope you some time in the future understand his parable because it is exactly what he gave, a parable. What he meant was that the seed of your mind is so mini it can be barely noticed but yet can such miniscule seed if growing become very prominent. Why he used the mustard tree is also considered how the tree looks with widespread branches which offers shade below its trunk. It does indeed protect itself by what it does when it grows, and shade on the ground is not good for other plants which like to grow strong there, such as weeds. The world itself is like weeds and that you need protection from and then you need to make sure the seed will grow into the magnificent tree. He also meant that this seed is the whole answer to what to focus on. His parable of that "God" threw seeds which landed here and there, weeds choked them, landed on rock and they burned by the sun, etc, this parable gives the reality which you observe when you behold the Earth. He gives actually a little answer to important life questions. That is, Elahem did just scatter the human souls to fend for themselves in a variety of conditions. It may sound like the human does not have themselves to blame, but it is also not true. The human was equipped with the mind seed, the image of Elahem in fact, just a blank being which has no attributes, particularly no attribute of a totally complete Being. It lacks growth of what makes a Being. This is what you work towards with yourselves, finalizing your own existence as beings. Surrendering to an automatic drive does absolutely not make you a Being, an independent life form. It does whatsoever not show of any power of existence on your own. Do you see? It has to do with the energy, willpower or will to exist you know. It goes down to a mysterious energy you do not know much of and this same phenomenon projects the universe in which you find yourself. So what do you seek? You seek INDEPENDENT FUNCTIONALITY! You wish to become what truly is conscious on its own and in command! When you can control and command your body that is when you exercise this mysterious abstract energy "organism" which might make who you are or become. Your energy level can increase with "time" and this is exactly what I try to make you see here by following the prescription which not only I came with but also predecessors like Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Abraham taught that people should seek soundness, soundness of mind, and it is exactly what the term "eslam" stands for! So it is YOU who are in the center, forget about me, I am just a teacher and the man Jesus did argue just the same. Unfortunately bad translations make it seem like he spoke of himself when he spoke about the "I" or self in a reflexive way. Bad grammatical knowledge caused misconception and even worship unfortunately. For example, when he said "I am in the father and the father is in me" he meant "the I is in the father/origin and the origin is in the I". "if you do like me you will all become related to the origin" (children of the father in tradition). Also in Genesis it was written "God made man in his own image". Moses was told "I am (being) who I am" regarding "God's" nature. These expressions are all related to each other. So what have you learned? You find "God" inside yourselves and nowhere else! What have you been thinking in your lives? Do you know what "God" is called in Persian/Farsi? It is called Khoda, and did you know "Khod" refers to the "self", the ironical thing is someone once upon a time among the Persians knew the truth and the nature of the human kind! What to blame why it became like this, that Khoda became an object of worship? This is among the reasons why humans make me tired and sigh. Merely thinking of it will only make me start in condescending ways to smear what you dislike me doing, so we leave it at that. Jesus knew "God" is in the self. Jesus also taught it, no matter what falsehood people say about him. Jesus did sarcastically utter that they called him a glutton and a drunkard because he did not act like their image of a pious person. I have not said that you have to fast or even stop eating! You will not stop living, it is a misconception, rather you will eventually feel more alive than ever! Do you remember the 10 Commandments given to Moses by The Elohim? Do You understand what is about now? Do You see that the 10 commandments give you a direct message to go against the instinctual programming of the homo-sapien body which You Mind is attached to? And that all these homo-sapien instincts are like weeds which choke/hinder the growth of your Unique Mind seed? Because Your level of Aliveness diminishes by You doing mindless activities just to please the animal body Your mind is attached to? 1. Be concerned about the Being 2. Do not take an image/stereotype and cling unto it 3. Do not heed the call to vanity 4. Keep contemplating (or be in reflection) 5. Care for/consider your neighbor (to be) like yourself (be against the instinct of family, nationality etc) 6. Do not dominate 7. Do not engage in vain sexual action/activation 8. Do not steal 9. Do not carry false testimony 10. Do not covet to have what your neighbor has (modern interpretation: his brand/model of smartphone, automobile, job, social position, wife etc). Do you understand what it is about?! Become Alive! Do not be under control, Be in Control! Do not be controlled by the mammal humans call homo-sapien that Your mind is attached to, But be its Master and Master of Your Mind. This Test is very difficult indeed, but Elohim are not after quantity but rather Quality of the Unique Minds they can get from this garden/Earth of ours.

I hope the following helps others, please feel free to discuss as reflectively as you can. All the best: In the context of at least some aspects of us possessing the desire (see previous comments) to survive, we’re all victims, however in the context of our survivability victimhood is optional relative to our awareness of circumstances that contradict our capacity to survive. In so saying as much we’re a victim in as much as we’re unaware of what’s happening in any moment, aspect, interaction or experience. Thus victimhood here literally just means lack of awareness. Awareness begets knowledge, knowledge begets reformation, reformation begets the means of discovering purposeful action. The origin of purposeful action is awareness, in particular, informational awareness. This term is used to replace the idea of self awareness in an effort to remove this false single object and tend to the multiple competing objects that contribute to this sense of sentience. Informational awareness is strongly positively correlated with the layers of instructed meaning placed on individual action, and in doing so, it’s re-configurement to more defined and competitive (with respect to competing influences) ends. Thus self aware definitions (self pertains to the abstractions not self aware consciousness, the latter connotation I’ve as noted excluded from observation here) are proportional to the amount of purposeful action and in doing so, strategic action. In this light, strategic action is evidence of and proportional to informational awareness. The balance between predefinition and foresight is therefore the name of the game here. You’ve read the manual to life and now you’re with pin point precision (or just to your limits) manoeuvring yourself between those limits that you’ve so carefully defined. This is the only position by which freedom exists, the exacting definition and operation within the limits of the rules of reality. Rules beget strategy to operate best within, hence why the lack of recognising limits is proportional to either poor strategy or no strategy at all, and the incapacity to formulate strategies that mitigate harm are proportional to the level of trauma that someone will experience and in doing so, the likelihood they will become a victim to the forces of life. Physically and syntactically it’s inevitable, psychologically however it depends on someone’s unconscious strategies (i.e. various kinds of brainwashing they may have) in terms of how they respond to loss, harm and or suffering. What are some of our limits? The following is a brief attempt at describing such and as a result, something that can instruct freedom within those limits. Otherwise Leo made mention how there is no such thing as freedom but I disagree, in the literal sense absolutely, however with respect to the consequences of understanding and strategy therein our freedom is proportional. Thus freedom is proportional to informational awareness because based on the above it’s proportional to freedom of action, the origins of which, as noted, are based on the ability to accurately determine constraints and the means of maximising operation within them. Here is that brief list: 1. We need to learn about cognitive biases 2. We need to seek an understanding of our past and build a narrative of the future for ourselves otherwise it’s direction will be impure 3. We need to ask ourselves who we are, define our values and desires that are truly our own and not someone else’s 4. We need to seek to investigate and understand our environment from both a past and future context 5. We need to define our social environment and move closer to those that better relate to our values otherwise others we’ll be unintentionally misdirected by others 6. Etc 7. Etc Feel free to add to this list at your discretion.

That ''oh my god'' factor happens even if you just ruminate about the significance of such a discovery about BEing. There is this thing called BEing. Right now. Totally complete. You can't improve on it even a bit. Which absolutely knows nothing other than itself. A place completely devoid of mystery, confusion, movement, stages or any such category. It's not about being EVERYTHING. It's a place where even the notion of EVERYTHIING or NOTHING ceases as they are all alien concepts. It is literally the completion. Right here and right now. The heart, the sentience, the only touch of aliveness. And yet the typical human life and it's idiosyncratic dramas and issues are just complete reverse of that. We all are looking at it right now right in it's face, and yet mistake it as something else. hell yeah oh my god. I dare you to find another more grotesque distinction than that. Hell yeah oh my god