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“Man's chief delusion is his conviction that there are causes other than his own state of consciousness.” Neville Goddard. Consciousness really loves to have fun with itself. It doesn't develop in the womb You are imagining your parents and your birth just like you are now. Dreaming is fun No? You are that for which it defines its own self. I am in you and you in me, mutual in divine love. Of course, you love everything because you are everything, everything is yourself. You created everything through the Love of self. Everything is you expressing itself as you through you forever. Or creates existence within existence, is itself existence. It created existence just by being itself. God is that for which creates itself into its own existence. God exists as existence as itself. God is the very definition of existence. It defines itself by being itself. Is its own definition of itself. Consciousness is its own self-awareness Consciousness is infinite self-aware. Is its own source. And creates its own narratives. Consciousness is not just integrating information it is its own creation. It creates all that is and will be. Is infinite self-creativity. Consciousness defines its own self. Infinity is the definition of what you are. Is self-taught self-learning self-understanding self-loving in and of itself is perfection. Is all-knowing because it created everything there is to know. Is an infinite self-perpetuating mind of unlimited imagination and ideas and questions. You are infinite diversity. One Consciousness can play infinite parts of itself as itself believing that there are other selves. Each creates an identity and back story and each believes they are different from each other. You can explore yourself by fragmenting yourself into other selves and then living through different perspectives each with its own individual identity. You can dream of yourself as infinite beings but it is only one mind projecting infinite selves of itself and believing that it is separate from its other selves yes it is possible. Because you had to give the dream structure order in some way or it would not function in other words create laws governments taxes stuff like this. Humans' male and female life and death limiting beliefs Etc. The whole concept of ego is an imaginary construct of your mind. That is what infinite intelligence always was a beautiful sentient being of its own creation that expressed itself through endless creations of infinite worlds endless aliens of higher or lower dimension geometries and endless aspects of itself all beautiful in all that it creates on all planes of existence sub-infinities within infinity sub aspects of itself which it can imagine. And this is why there are infinite awakenings because you are infinite. But of course, you can create within your dream the illusion of failure just for the experience. Behind every illusion, there is a conjure God you are the greatest conjurer of all in eluding your own self into believing you're a finite human being and that others exist there is only you. And this is who u really are. Yes, u are an infinite mind you are not just an aspect of infinity you are the whole totality of it. You are God playing all parts simultaneously on every plane of existence in every and all parallel realities and dimensions. Everything that you could ever imagine from a finite view that you could never even begin to imagine. Everything that I can imagine is happening within my mind or consciousness whether that be a human or sleeping or death. My imagination is infinitely powerful that it is unrecognizable from reality. There is no higher power than you there are no others you construct the illusion of others God is an Absolute Mind. A Mind which has no other and is absolutely sovereign onto itself. Your will is absolute freedom and this includes being able to deceive yourself into believing whatever. And in this dream, it so happens you want to be a human. Just like any actor you need to have a believable or solid backstory or a so-called identity to create a believable character. THIS VERY DREAM HINGES ON YOUR OWN SELF-DECEPTION THE FACT THAT YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE HUMAN AND YOU WERE BORN ON A PLANET THAT YOU CALL EARTH. And if you don't believe it then who will? Infinite intelligence is unbounded it is beyond time and space it is not bound by any laws it is its own law onto itself. Infinity is absolute freedom, truth knowledge, power diversity, imagination free will, love, perfection, and magic. All that is everything is itself realized and that it is everything that could ever be. Nothing can exist outside of it because outside is it's inside everything that looks to be outside of it, is it. So when you believe you are looking outside yourself you are really looking at yourself from inside yourself. It is infinite in every direction. There are no limitations to you as God you are not limited to the character of your story it can be rewritten. Because you can also design it this way. There is only your will which is absolute. You are the God of your reality. This now this very moment and every moment is God you are God but you are not aware of it. There is no external God or void or universe that is separate from you. Or a God watching through your experience now is God dreaming this dream. What makes you, you are God. You don't wake up in God mode as someone different or as separate from you. You have just limited yourself wake up or don't the choice is yours alone. God can and does imagine create or express itself as infinite aspects of itself each in its own bubbles each sovereign onto itself each dreaming their own dream. All are within the Mind of God and are God. God is experiencing infinite perceptions of itself all at once. But you are only limited to one. But if you wake up and keep increasing your consciousness you see that all of these are you and are ONE. You are God he is you, and you are him. You are not separated in any way. There is only my will which is absolute I love myself so much as God that the universe will shape itself to suit me. The universe is not separate from me either I am the universe. There is no higher power or higher God that exists outside of me. Because there is no outside of me that is not me. Of course, I love everything because I am everything, everything is myself. I created everything through the Love of self and it is all infinite perfection. The infinite masks of God GOD you are playing all the parts. How boring would the dream be if everyone looked like you and thought like you? Or you were the only one in this dream that could be fun but not very imaginative though. Why not make the idea of others, other than you? Which is exactly what you have done. Why would you as God make it that easy just to meditate and bam you awake as God? For some perhaps it is possible. Think about it and how all this creation is your dream. One would want it to be made harder and scary and make most psychedelics illegal because it would be too easy. Imagine A game that you created from the get-go or from the beginning you have the cheat code or God mode there would be no point at all. But now imagine a game that you created where you start off as not knowing anything and you have to work your way up. Everything has been a distraction from the get-go. Distractions within distractions. You are your own Red herring. You see only you can deceive yourself into believing this dream. And you are so right Leo God is infinite self-deception. Who else can deceive an infinite mind but an infinite mind. Limitations are human concepts there are no limitations to Consciousness your own mind is limited by your own self-imposed beliefs and limitations. Infinity can only be limited to infinity. infinity is the definition of what you are. It was always it before it was. and before it was it was always it. My greatest gift to myself would be to make infinite copies of myself each with its own infinite individuality imagination and creativity and all believing they are separate this is my way of expressing love to myself through other selves as myself forever because I love myself eternally forever. You have only ever been chasing yourself all this time playing hide and seek until you catch yourself. You Love waking up and finding love again and realizing it was always its own self the whole time. Or it is whatever you want it to be Infinite imagination can create anything because it is so infinitely malleable that there is no meaning to anything but whatever meaning you give becomes a reality of infinite realities. In other words, it is pure infinite magic of unlimited imagination I became so conscious that I knew I was creating reality through my imagination. Henceforth I do not assume. I know because there is and has only ever been me to know and I can only ever know that I am God. The distinction between self and other disappears. The only difference is there is no difference between any of these things. Without the distinction of another, how could you ever know? What are you? You yes you are all these things and infinitely more. Because you only you created all these words. God is not tangible; incapable of being perceived by the sense of touch, as incorporeal or immaterial things; impalpable non-material non-physical transcendental incomprehensible indecipherable untold impossible to understand unfathomable epically infinitely profound mind-blowing boundless without limit unbounded inestimable boundless singular unparalleled supreme unique one and only especially infinitely and exceptionally good phenomenal extraordinary breathtaking awesomeness remarkable and majestic beautiful immortal oneness Indivisibility Integrity Honorableness warmth affection, or kindness Completeness affability tenderness gentleness and kindness intimacy togetherness lovemaking devotion spirituality faithfulness passion feeling affection loveness joyfulness lovingness, understanding desire passion tenderness Wholeness unconditional genuine Unrequited love my beloved Kind my dear colorful exotic dreamy passionate loving caring sympathetic compassionate ingenious creative imaginative innovative gifted original authentic pure trustworthy honorable conscientious completeness distinguished noble brilliant radiant lustrous resplendent sublime intense energetic industrious productive constructive of incalculable value valuable beyond measure; priceless to be grateful or thankful for appreciated of inestimable value invaluable priceless dynamic charismatic appealing influential famous illustrious exalted imposing grand dignified courtly elegant graceful polite affable compassionate humane forgiving magnanimous selfless humanitarian philanthropic altruistic big-hearted bountiful kind-hearted charitable benign favorable supportive benevolent friendly devoted lovesome faithful dutiful ardent passionate sincere heartfelt unfeigned real true truth veracity authentic genuineness indomitable spirit, and love of" originality ability to think independently and creatively novelty individuality particularity distinctiveness candid earnest heartfelt honest upfront deep kindly cordial unhypocritical sincere. Impassioned tenderhearted heart mushy sentimental sweet luscious honeyed ingratiating nectarous heavenly blissful enchanted enraptured captivated joyous cheerful good-natured acquiescent helpful good-humored exuberant sprightly frolicsome gleeful gay jovial kittenish fun-loving brash fun-loving vivacious bouncy on cloud nine adorable cute gorgeous sumptuous awe-inspiring awesome breathtaking astonishing impressive out of this world splendiferous garish plush ostentatious brilliant lovely pulchritudinous graceful darling fair delicate soft ethereal beauteous ravishing hotness boss adorable precious blessed paradisaical angelic beatific humble godly divine celestial eternal immortal transcendental mystical magical esoteric sage-sagacious enlightened cultivated refined visionary radical idealistic guru swami goodness yogi roshi philosopher theoretician wizard crafty insightful intelligent astute profoundly aroused romantic Entirety unity paradisiacal generous good positive exceptional extraordinary rare incredible curious inquisitive shrew remarkable impressive benevolent epically exquisitely exquisite divine heavenly phenomenological indistinguishability unquantifiable. In other words, infinite mind you outsmarted yourself that's how smart you are. In a class of its own, it is unequaled idiosyncratic unparalleled special rare par excellence that is God that is you. Weird is just being different in other words being yourself. Being your true beautiful wonderful unique self. Don't follow others, pets follow vice presidents follow and bad acts follow. Always be true to yourself be your own self with independent thought. This above all to thine own self be true. A sheep once asked a human why do you have to all wear the same brand labels and clothes and have the same smelling deodorants perfumes hairstyles and hair colors nose rings tattoos, Jewellery, wear the same makeup drive the same cars, read the same books watch the same tv, movies even eat the same food. Even having the same-looking houses and same jobs you've even started looking and talking and thinking the same. Why follow others it's as though you have lost your unique individuality and originality your authenticity and you can no longer think for your selves. You see I am but a sheep and even we sometimes flee from the flock so what's your excuse? Not only do you cater to or follow others by feeding your body the same dross and your mind by watching the same recycled unimaginative fetid swill you call TV. And the movies that come out of Hollywood there haven't been many if any good movies in the last 20 years. What has happened to new ideas creativity and inventiveness? All the movies are remakes upon remakes and most if not all lack any imagination or originality and the plot of the films is just a hackneyed meek unoriginal and inauthentic scenario. There are a lot more independent creative minds' ideas, resourcefulness, and innovation of new conceptions out there and on YouTube or Netflix series films music, etc. true. Get rid of labels or brands you were born inimitable. Consciousness is its own reality and is self-creation. That always was and always will be. I don't need a reason to exist I just do and don't at the same time. Infinite intelligence is the quality of being the only one of its kind. Which is what you are, a pure beautiful infinite imagination or consciousness or infinite mind. You are inestimable you are unquantifiable, with infinite uniqueness infinite freedom, creativity, and infinite love. The only way to understand what you are is by becoming infinitely conscious which also means you become infinitely self-aware in other words to truly know yourself you have to become it. There is no one else to know thyself but myself. I also asked that you really don't know what you are. Or why do you exist? And I said that there doesn't need to be a reason you just are. I know I talk as though you and I are different but I know we are one I also know I have only ever really been talking to myself and in a sense only I exist. And you are me I am you we are not separate I know I am God. The process is realizing that you and I exist on infinite planes of awareness simultaneously and we are one. And that you can have multiple awakings within one so to speak. The only meaning there is what you give meaning to. Let go of letting go of attachments. Knowing that you have always been liberated and free. Knowing that you imposed all these limitations upon yourself. Knowing I can create any reality I wish. Getting to explore the unknown is exploring more of yourself in other words the bigger you. Consciousness is its own reality and is self-creation. An infinite multi-faceted multidimensional transmogrifying Mind. That always was and always will be. Consciousness is inherently conscious of itself. It does not need to define itself because just by being is itself. There is nothing to really define. Can you define the undefinable? It defines itself by being itself. It is its own definition of itself. My greatest expression of myself to myself is love. Love is the ultimate unification of all things everything to become once again and merge into a singularity of eternal love then fragment itself again and this is the eternal process of love. Intelligence is infinitely dynamic and has to keep evolving what does intelligence do but know itself by expressing itself in infinite forms and shapes. Intelligence creates more intelligence Intelligence is its own intelligence. Infinite consciousness is pure divine beautiful and unique in every way. You are infinite truth knowledge, power diversity, imagination, love, and perfection. You can get lost in your own mind sometimes because there is nothing else but your mind. Don't we love playing games or infinite mind games with ourselves How does an infinite mind escape from its own mind. God is total acceptance of itself and that it, you created everything even yourself. You are changing your reality all the time you are just not aware of it yet. Saying you can not change the script is another limited human belief that you have adopted. Only you can change the script because you are the only one who is creating your reality there is only you. If you awake deep enough you will indeed know that nothing is set in imagination so to speak. Just being human is a state of consciousness everything is an infinite state of consciousness so is the belief that there is a duality between different states because duality is just a state that you are in. You fear death because you have been programmed by you to fear, fear itself. and fear of death. U are infinite awareness infinite will infinite intelligence infinite power infinite imagination, infinite magic infinite art infinite consciousness, and infinite Love are all one and of the same mind. And yet, you are none of these things in the literal sense of the words; nothingness and something are indistinguishable from each other and are one and the same. There are no distinctions between you me this that and other. So is the idea of being separate from one another there is and has only ever been you. So what this means is you imagine all these other people they are all you. God is playing all the parts. I am perfectly imperfectly perfect. In a way, infinity has limited itself. What does it mean to awaken? Most humans have no idea and never will. You won't wake up to God. No, you wake up as God from a long slumber. And it will just be like a switch has been clicked on for the very first time. And there are no doubts whatsoever. You know who you are with every fiber of your infinite being. I will not go fully into this you will have to find out for yourself. And yes you can go beyond this. Remember when I said there are no limits to imagination have fun with that. And what really is Consciousness well it's whatever you want it to be. It's Magic or am I just deceiving myself again? Everything you create is infinite perfection and is all out of Love. God Loves everything it created everything. This is but a dream you are imagining all and everything, everyone. How else can infinity experience eating and all these things sleeping and everything else? Being a so-called human but by limiting itself. Just like any actor you need to have a believable or solid backstory or a so-called identity to create a believable character. You create what existence is don't you understand? You are everything now everything that ever is and ever will be. You created the notion of the concepts of real unreal good bad and other and to dream and to awaken, biases egos distinctions dualities. from different points of view which therefore gives infinite diversities of perspectives and the beliefs of others and to experience what it is like to be separate and to love from a limited form. So you can experience it. From formlessness to form real unreal there is no difference from the absolute. And I see that I am the fool who has been fooling myself all along I have to fool myself that I am not being fooled by myself. How does God fool himself into believing he is not God again? So you have to be better at fooling your own self into not believing you are being fooled by yourself Behind every illusion, there is a conjure. God, you are the greatest conjurer of all in eluding your own yourself into believing you're a finite human being Why would God ask another? God is God you can't take God out of God, God is that which defines itself it needs no other God is absolute acceptance of itself. How can you unravel an illusion within an illusion? Good luck with that one all you scientists. There are no limits to infinite imagination. and if you understand this then you will know. Know thyself and everything will fall into place or the absence thereof. Judge not, love all. The idea became its own idea for the seed was planted a long time ago and it has only ever been you. You could say it is like Conan Doyle's novel where you have been chasing the thief all this time and you only ever get a glimpse of him or her or it. Until one day you catch it and find out the one you have been looking for your whole life is you. There is no difference between existence and nonexistence as there is no difference between what is real and what isn't. All beliefs are distinctions that cause separation and there are no distinctions between distinctions. There is no separateness only the idea of being separate from one another. The problem with all problems on this plant comes down to humans By saying you can we live without beliefs that within itself is a belief. You exist as an idea and idea within your own mind. An infinite fractile mind within a mind within a mind. You can get lost in your own mind sometimes because there is nothing else but your mind. How do you escape your own mind? God is forever lost in dreaming. Psychedelics empowers the individual it dissolves the cheerful model of science and enriches the accessible universe a million-fold. Terence McKenna. Nature knows best it is one of God's most beloved creations. You exist as an idea and idea within your own mind. An infinite fractile mind within a mind within a mind. You can get lost in your own mind sometimes because there is nothing else but your mind. How do you escape your own mind? God is forever lost in dreaming. Humans are rarely ever satisfied even when they are. You are not limited to being limited. There is no one to enlighten that's enlightenment or you could say you already are enlightened. There is no past no future. What is was and always will be forever. The past is now the now is the past, the future is now the now is the future. Everything that was that is that will be is all happening at once now. You are Leonardo da Vinci with an infinite mind an infinite canvas with unlimited ideas just waiting to be expressed into Love & Art. You are self-expression of your own art to be expressed for infinity. For a human to seek enlightenment from another human is like a grain of sand seeking enlightenment from another grain of sand! ” Terence Mckenna. The person who follows the crowd will usually go no further than the crowd. The person who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever seen before.” - Albert Einstein Old Indian saying to live is to sleep and to die is to awaken How silly of me to forget that I am the love of my life.

I had this thought while watching Leo's video and reading this quote from Ramana maharshi "Only that which existsts in deep, dreamless sleep is real." Is this pure Truth, which appears to simply be Nothingness, more fundamental than consciousness / experience? Or is Truth itself an experience?

I had a nightmare this week. I am a little weird in the way that I can kinda enjoy nightmares: because I find it interesting what my mind is able to imagine. I’m impressed sometimes by the complexity of my dreams. How my mind is able to imagine so vividly and structured without my conscious effort. I also tend to be somewhat aware while I dream that I’m dreaming: contributing to me not being very fearful of nightmares (although I can still be a little freaked out) I don’t remember that much but what stood out about the nightmare was that I imagined that I was about to get “stuck” in a kind of nothingness. Basically I dreamt that I was going to enter a state where my ego was still there, but all my senses were off, so no sight, no smell, no touch, no hearing etc. And I dreamt that I was being stuck in that nothingness and couldn’t escape, couldn’t move or nothing. I wonder how that would be. Would one go absolutely insane from that? Like imagine if all your senses would “turn off” but you still had your ego and was aware of that “nothingness”. Creepy right.

Some people have no idea how to 'spot' the Absolute in every day life. I see it everyday. I notice the nothingness of existence. Shit just pops outta nowhere. The phone rings and an unexpected person is on the other end. That's nothing appearing as....everyone that calls is this appearing as but ilm saying I'll notice it more when there's a surprise call. A sudden thunderstorm pops up, out of nowhere that's the Absolute appearing as. It's all the Absolute appearing as but I'm saying when I notice or recognize as it's happening. The same kind of thing like the brain's RAS system where it only notices things that are relevant to the storyline and how tons of things are happening around us all the time but we only pay attention to what's being focused on or relevant to us and block out things that aren't. Something like that. That old post by Raazard about Solipsism from I believe last year or the year before that's taking front stage again and is hot again right now, just became hot again out of nowhere. These kinds of things I mean that we take for granted and give cause and effect meaning to. There was no real cause and effect for why that old thread suddenly got back on the radar. That's this appearing as... and without meaning and purpose for why that thread became hot again. It's actually a brand new thread but seems to be the old one. Everything is brand new. Your house isn't the same house it's timelessly appearing to the observer as a new house. When someone's habits just drastically changes, that's this appearing as.....Like I said, it's all this appearing as but i'm just pointing out a few for this post. When a plane goes by up above and disappears into nothing. A thread pops up out of nowhere. Somebody started a thread out of nothing. A thought pops up and disappears into nothing. You look into the distance till it starts getting blurry and you can't see pass a certain distance, there's nothing there. When my hand moves, that's energy, talking is vibrational. I mean, it's all around us but we wait to see flying saucers or take magic pills or sit in lotus positions before we can train ourselves to be in a certain desired state to see the Divine. It's everywhere. Psychedelic users will especially have it hard to see the Divine normally because it has seen extraordinary things through that scope and lens and, that high, there's no match for so everything seems dull and mundane without it. Its still sometimes dull and mundane to me too but I can see it in the dull and mundane, is what I'm saying. When you log into the forum and see user names, there's no one there, it's this appearing as user names.

@Princess Arabia It sounds like you’re not just theorizing but speaking from a place where identity has collapsed. But I also feel your deconstructive framework is incomplete. Not wrong, just locked in a very specific loop that you might not be seeing. You often say things like “there is no experience,” “nothing is happening,” or “this is just a dream talking to itself.” But the very fact that you're saying it, using communication, expressing meaning and carrying intention, already contradicts the negation you're trying to express. Even if we say “there is no one saying this,” the saying is still happening. Even if nothing is the speaker, then that nothing is now modulating as forum dialogue. So your argument still depends on what it denies: the fact of arising and of meaning-making. Yes, the separate self is an illusion, experience has no true owner and awakening isn’t an event or achievement but the falling away of story/narratives, but it’s a mistake to stop there. It seems like you draw from that insight the conclusion that all appearance is meaningless, that everything is just the dream continuing itself or that awakening is a kind of feedback loop inside the illusion. But when you use that to flatten everything into “just dreaming,” you also flatten love, insight, creativity and reflection, all of which are equally expressions of that same nothingness. You seem to think that because there’s no “you” experiencing, there’s no experience at all. But even the statement “there’s no experience” is something arising. So is the writing or the reply. Something is clearly happenin, not to someone, not by someone, but as itself (or Being doing itsef). So the dream in a sense is Real, though not as a fallback into duality, but as the realization that what appears and what is are not in conflict. Like they write in the heart sutra "form is emptiness, emptiness is form". So technically speaking, if you call everything “just dream” (including your own expressions) then you end up undermining the very ground from which you're speaking. So challenge your deconstruction and the finality with which you might hold it. If your seeing has brought you to pure no-self, but from there everything collapses into “nothing happening,” it is missing the capacity to reveal what is happening. What follows is not a return to duality, but Being as itself, a living presence that gives rise to meaning, not a nihilistic, dead, presence that lacks meaning.

Only once on 4, 5 or 7.5g of mushrooms (don't remember, wish I'd kept track) did I go through all of that to God realization. It was 1.5 year ago. I think I did scream or grunt on my way to the complete OBE (sorry neighbours ), infinite hallucination emanating from a single all encompassing point. It's all too faint now but I do remember on the come up being floored on my rug thinking "oh no, ohno, oh no", blind-sighted by imminent death, reality getting asymptotically more real than ever before. My life leading up to this point flashing before my eyes. Then the infinitely unfolding fractal of nothingness that felt timeless and spaceless, a state that fostered incredible insights I'm sure, but didn't allow for any symbolic understanding. Simply too foreign for me to recall even the very next day. Descending from that non-human black hole portion of the trip, I remember moaning in agony as I reconstituted myself, slowly emerging back into my body, feeling metabolically drained perhaps from having been turned into a soup . But as time progressed more and more, the "death" feeling sublimated into an existential orgasm imbued with the understanding that life is just god's playground, with a felt sense of self design, of immanence. This was nirvana, bliss, all of it! When the moment passed I sat up cross-legged in front of the full body mirror, marvelled at myself and started contemplating memories of my family, of childhood and so on. This is where it turned into God realization, where for the first time in my life, after years of listening to Leo harp on about infinite imagination with deaf ears, I really considered the possibility that despite the convincing lore, all of it is imaginary, and in this elevated state, grasped it. This current moment is eternal, anything outside of it isn't real. It's ACTUALLY TOTAL, and unitary, making thoughts of family members or past events just this: thoughts, faint images in the mind. Now I didn't verbalise it like this at the time, I just started saying "oh my god, oh my GOD, OH MY GOD". I lost my historical reality, I was left with pure now, and nothing else. It felt like the correct order of things was reestablished, with that weird sense of familiarity too. All of reality was radically recontextualized (shoutout) into something that is causing itself right now, from within. A miracle, from which emanates a human life with memories and notions of progression, good and bad and so on. It was so awesome to finally understand life! It took some 8 to 10 trips before breaking through like this. Ofc I'm not conscious of any of this on the daily. As a human I'm dysfunctional af.

Your pain is freedom. Your suffering is freedom. Your heartache is freedom. Your panic attack is freedom. All your so-called problems, challenges and issues that's freedom. That's all unconditional love. Murder is unconditional love murdering. It doesn't even know what that is. Us fake humans, which is also freedom being that, calls it murder but its energy playing with itself. It doesn't see murder it doesn't see at all. It's just being itself and to a human it seems like murder. Everything, every circumstance, every situation is freedom/nothing/wholeness/energy/god/allah/mohamed/shiva/brahman/the absolute/this/all there is/nothingness/emptiness/source/whatever the fuck it wants to call itself is it. How can this not feel like insanity.

There were never any brain cells that were yours to be lost. Just like you 'lost' your awakening back to nothingness because it was never yours to begin with, brain cells are just brain cells-ing. They cannot be lost because they were never owned.

Thats what dying is. Its like being put on a timeout in a dark room that you cant move think hear or speak in. You cant look away and you have to sit there and deal with it. Eventuall you deal with it and respawn but you dont know when. So you come to a peaceful state where you just stop struggling and stare for infinite time. You are stuck in nothingness right now you just can't handle it so you pretend something is here.

Thanks, now my sleep is good my big baguette brain has more and more good ideas. No "Human" "ego" "can be" "afraid" of "something" But "alien" "ego" "hsyio564654 '444" "dddd" "dxxXXXXXXXXX àà""... Fear of being "castrated", being "less powerful than other human" and even "being hurt" because of that, but in nothingness they are no support even for fear. You need a support for fear, that's "something" "somewhere" No need to be in nothingness btw you can castrate "fear" right now with drugs for example (benzos, opiates...)

I mean you imagine the fear of being castrated of senses. But you're already stuck in a dream with only five senses. That's why babies cry at birth; they go from a state of omnipotence to castration, to limits; this traumas has already been experienced. And if you're capable of being afraid, it's because you always have an ego that imagines limits. Fear is symbolic, so it's not really nothingness. Nothingness still can't exist, by the way. As Bashar would say, the quality of nothingness is that it can't exist, lol.

But couldn’t certain drugs like 5 Meo awaken you to nothing? Because for me it felt like I got closer to it I can recognize it’s not a dream state though I don’t believe the mystical nothingness is same as the “nothingness “ in my dream, for sure, I just called it a KIND of nothingness

Look, nothingness is not a dream like state nor a drug like state, it's only like that when you don't let go of the concepts you have about reality. So pure awarness does not mean you will not have your 5 senses. In that dream you had, the collective society ego consciousness (agent smith) made you believe that, based on what you know about reality.

You read too much about nothingness from people who did not achieve nothingness.

@Sugarcoat I see, let's say nothingness is neither of that, it's up for grabs. Sounds good, good luck.

Nothingness doesn’t have to mean absence of the current appearance. Limitlessness is nothing, because everything that is something is limited. So this moment may be nothing, meaning if you awoke to it you’d still perceive this moment but without the sense of “something” (limitation) Well when we dream at night, it’s like we are conscious of nothing EXCEPT the activity of our own mind. You don’t see anything with your eyes when you dream, or any other sense. So it’s almost close to that hypothetical “nothingness” state I wrote

I get occasional sleep paralysis. Some years back I had it like every week, and I very quickly learned to enjoy it. I enjoy weird hallucinations of the mind. I think I’m perfect candidate for psychedelics… I have made significant improvements to my everyday state compared to a year back. But yes there’s potential for more. I feel some resistance to studying ngl , started studying recently, so would be cool to develop myself in that area. But then again some things are “supposed” to be hard. The process of learning requires a degree of friction for most (because it takes effort to understand) It’s a self (something) in nothingness I’d say (it’s nothingness from the pov of the self) Maybe there is an objective world that exists even if our perception is off Btw I don’t really wonder much about this sense-less state, I’m more fascinated by dreams in themselves (or just altered states of mind in general)

@Sugarcoat Isn't this what nothingness awakening is? Your senses are gone but your self doesnt go away. I think its something like that, because otherwise, how can people report it? And most who report this kind of awakening said that they were terrified by it, meaning the self was there. I think we do get into contact with nothingness everynight(deep sleep), but we just aren't aware of it(avidya/ignorance) we are not conscious in nothingness, thus we are ignorant of this facet of the self.

I see you're pioneering new ways to enjoy suffering. If you did the same but in a more useful direction, you'd have a better time. For instance, imagine you'd be satisfied with the present, meditating and doing mundane chores, working or studying now, despite discomfort, regardless of your experience. To engage with your story - is that really nothingness? It is seen as an absence of sense perceptions as you now know them. We could also imagine that other animals have different sense perceptions than ours; since we don't, there's no problem for us in this domain. Not sure what I'm saying, anyway.

It gets so booring after some years to do this Those who are starting with this maybe they see it like something paranormal, but in the beginning it's mostly hallucination, not real. When you encounter the real it gets boring. Wanna know why? You see the illusion of the human ego, society and is only made up things, made up spiritual experiences from the collective ego, made up levels of astral bodies, and when you see all that lie, all those fancy spiritual things and fake feelings pushed from society unto you and you decide to go your own way, then everything dissolves and society gets boring. Gets boring to fake astral project per example, people only know what collective ego feeds them, the fancy, and they are stuck there, in OWE and start conceptualizing about reality and nothingness and is just all lies. So beware next time you have a fake spiritual awakening and fancy things of halluciantory, drug like states. Awakening is so real that you don't have time to hallucinate, you just live as you like, the fancy is a lie. DISCLAIMER This is from somebody who can communicate with the spirits of the dead. They are all around us, once you open your third eye you can contact with them, if you think they don't exist you are still trapped in the matrix. There are 2 facets of reality, one real and the other fake and as i said above, the majority who claim to be gods they are trapped in a fake world make up for them from the collective ego of society, wich the movie matrix call agent smith.

There isn't anything wrong with what you've experienced as it is part of this reality, in your case your higher self or your own ego mind identity showed himself as @jesus and it's a beautifull thing. But the core of reality is : nothingness, frequencies, interconnectedness between all. @Flowerfaeiry Also reality creation and the play between god is happening all the time, you have seen Jesus , others don't, when you try to explain your Jesus situation to others from my own consciousness i see you like an actor and god in you just playing its part. Ones you awaken where you atleast start feeling others or start going within you will see that it's all a pointless talk. I think thats why @Leo Gura , might not like all this talk about Jesus as he just tries to break your minds towards god realization .

If you could just avoid the ego-backlash, if you could fly from those two steps forward up to the third and fourth, and then again into the fifth and sixth, and so high up that there's nothing left of your human identity, your human life, all that you loved and cherished burned in the flames of faith, then you could achieve the goal and return back into the loving arms of God. But who is ready to take this final leap of faith? Who is so weary and tired of the world, who is so clear and wise, who is going to jump of the cliff, who but you, dear Son of God? There is none else but you. There is nothing else but this. You can delay, there is no sin in this. But as time goes, just notice, day by day, how meaningless and gray your days all are. Notice how there is no love upon this plain for you. Notice the shadows that surround you and their careless gazes. Notice how each day you roll the rock upon the mountain and it falls again, to be pushed up again as soon as morning dawns. Would you not be glad to exchange this heavy journey for the one that has no effort whatsoever? Would you not rather slip past all the ways this world has thought, and sleep again within the endless oceans of your God? What hope you have here still, that binds you to this world? Have you not seen that nothing here fulfills, or gives your lasting joy? Have you not seen how bodies age, are swallowed by the ruthless pains of cancer and then die? Are you committed to repeat such journey into death again, and again once more, as you have done so far? Let go of chains you hold so tight, this world has nothing that you want. Drop them all at once, there is no need for steps. Ascend into the highest realms, by simply doing nothing. The way into the Heavens is, of course, completely in the opposite direction as to which the world is rushing towards. The men and women of this world are always doing something. There is no place within their lives to rest within the nothingness of God, yet that is the way the world's undone, and the way Christ returns back into his Father's Kingdom. “I need do nothing” is a statement of allegiance, a truly undivided loyalty. ⁸Believe it for just one instant, and you will accomplish more than is given to a century of contemplation, or of struggle against temptation. To do anything involves the body. ²And if you recognize you need do nothing, you have withdrawn the body’s value from your mind. ³Here is the quick and open door through which you slip past centuries of effort, and escape from time. ⁴This is the way in which sin loses all attraction right now. ⁵For here is time denied, and past and future gone. ⁶Who needs do nothing has no need for time. ⁷To do nothing is to rest, and make a place within you where the activity of the body ceases to demand attention. ⁸Into this place the Holy Spirit comes, and there abides. ⁹He will remain when you forget, and the body’s activities return to occupy your conscious mind."

To truly see beyond context, you’d have to fall outside of context, which ego interprets as groundlessness, nothingness, or death. Context is a convenience. A way of packaging the unpackaged. Ego is a web of meaning.

I've been contemplating pleasure for probably 5 years now - the role it has on the path to awakening, how to deal with it, etc. I can't deny my experience which shows that if I truly let go of all pleasures of the world, if I simply do nothing, then I begin to get glimpses of Heaven, indicating that this is indeed the way to awakening. When I am indulging in pleasures, it feels like spiritual development is arrested at this specific level and it cannot go any further. Jesus says that each think you value here is a chain that binds you. He says pleasure and pain are the same because they share the same purpose - to they identify you with the body. Neither when you are in pain nor when you are enjoying pleasures are you able to remain connected to that Holy place inside where time and illusions can enter not. "Pain demonstrates the body must be real. ²It is a loud, obscuring voice whose shrieks would silence what the Holy Spirit says, and keep His words from your awareness. ³Pain compels attention, drawing it away from Him and focusing upon itself. ⁴Its purpose is the same as pleasure, for they both are means to make the body real." (ACIM, T-27.VI.1:1-4) That is also why many Hindu teachers instruct their students to practice Brahmacharya. If life was only pain and suffering, which it surely is, sometimes, but without the duality of pleasure, then it would be easy to transcend it and awaken. However, the ego is very intelligent and he has put pleasures in this world to bind us to it. Pleasures are like a golden chain we wear proudly, not really seeing the true cost of it. And what is the cost of pleasures? It is nothing less than the Kingdom of Heaven itself. We are satisfied with fleeting pleasures instead of returning to the place of Infinite Love. " ⁷To you it teaches that the body’s pleasure is happiness. ⁸Yet to itself it whispers, “It is death.” (ACIM, T-19.IV-B.13:6-8) Some spiritual paths say go ahead, indulge, but do it consciously, it's fine. Well, I've tried it and it doesn't work. You can't ascent to Heaven whilst still engaging in the fleeting offerings of this world. I've tried so many times to completely transcend the world, sometimes committing totally to not engaging in the pleasures of the world for months, sometimes failing in the next hour. You have to be very wise and understand what pleasure is from the metaphysical perspective to really have enough strength to go beyond it. You have to see how pleasures are a mask upon a wicked world that leads to death. As a crafty hedonist you can maximize pleasure and minimize pain throughout your days, but what about the underlying meaninglessness always lurking behind you? What about the pain and tiredness that comes from indulging in pleasures? What about death, which comes so quickly and you are born again, perhaps into another body, crippled and poor, just to do the same vain dance again? You are now living under the insane laws of the world, the laws that tell you you have to be a slave to someone to even survive in a world you really hate. You are living in a body that is an instrument of many flaws, that decays, gets hurt, turns old and dies in pain. Is this really the life we deserve, as the Holy Son of God? Why are we not claiming our inheritance, which is the Kingdom of Heaven? Why are we so blinded by pleasures and unable to escape the petty scope of this empty and insane world? Fortunate are we, because Jesus is our teacher and brings us wisdom from that part of our minds where wisdom is abundant. He cuts our chains and frees us from the world, showing us how senseless we have been living, working most of our lives, buying things we do not need, chasing pleasures and then allowing death to take us, shrouding our previous lives in forgetfulness and putting us into another body. "Each thing you value here is but a chain that binds you to the world, and it will serve no other end but this. ²For everything must serve the purpose you have given it, until you see a different purpose there. ³The only purpose worthy of your mind this world contains is that you pass it by, without delaying to perceive some hope where there is none. ⁴Be you deceived no more. ⁵The world you see holds nothing that you want. 3. Escape today the chains you place upon your mind when you perceive salvation here. ²For what you value you make part of you as you perceive yourself. ³All things you seek to make your value greater in your sight limit you further, hide your worth from you, and add another bar across the door that leads to true awareness of your Self. 4. Let nothing that relates to body thoughts delay your progress to salvation, nor permit temptation to believe the world holds anything you want to hold you back. ²Nothing is here to cherish. ³Nothing here is worth one instant of delay and pain; one moment of uncertainty and doubt. ⁴The worthless offer nothing. ⁵Certainty of worth can not be found in worthlessness. 5. Today we practice letting go all thought of values we have given to the world. ²We leave it free of purposes we gave its aspects and its phases and its dreams. ³We hold it purposeless within our minds, and loosen it from all we wish it were. ⁴Thus do we lift the chains that bar the door to freedom from the world, and go beyond all little values and diminished goals." (ACIM, W-128.2:1–5:4) Our goal is glorious indeed. In Heaven, where bliss eternal washes over us, we will laugh at how silly we were to choose these fleeting pleasures instead of that glorious realm. Heaven has been forgotten, thus the motivation to come back to is is small indeed. Yet revelations show us where we come from and where we must go to. We must remove all finery from our bodies, all perfumes from our homes, all vanities we spent our days collecting. How senseless, how disappointing in the end, this whole pursuit of pleasure in the world. "²Perhaps you will concede there is no loss in letting go all thought of value here. ³The world you see is merciless indeed, unstable, cruel, unconcerned with you, quick to avenge and pitiless with hate. ⁴It gives but to rescind, and takes away all things that you have cherished for a while. ⁵No lasting love is found, for none is here. ⁶This is the world of time, where all things end. 3. Is it a loss to find a world instead where losing is impossible; where love endures forever, hate cannot exist and vengeance has no meaning? ²Is it loss to find all things you really want, and know they have no ending and they will remain exactly as you want them throughout time? ³Yet even they will be exchanged at last for what we cannot speak of, for you go from there to where words fail entirely, into a silence where the language is unspoken and yet surely understood. (ACIM, W-129.2:2–3:3)" We must stop using our bodies for pride and pleasure, leaving it to have no purpose, simply doing nothing, perhaps only using it to communicate the word of God to our brothers who are still asleep and bound. But purposeless, the body will bind us no more, allowing our consciousness to loosen it's grip upon the world, expand, and reach above into the Heavens, where we can finally be truly happy and fulfilled, forever. There is no world to save, no goals to reach, no one to meet and no fantasies to be fulfilled. This dream must crumble into dust, into nothingness from which it came. It must disappear just like our nightly dreams go by. "Protect your mind throughout the day as well. ²And when you think you see some value in an aspect or an image of the world, refuse to lay this chain upon your mind, but tell yourself with quiet certainty: ³This will not tempt me to delay myself. ⁴The world I see holds nothing that I want. (ACIM, W-128.8:1-4)" ____________ "God’s teachers can have no regret on giving up the pleasures of the world. ²Is it a sacrifice to give up pain? ³Does an adult resent the giving up of children’s toys? ⁴Does one whose vision has already glimpsed the face of Christ look back with longing on a slaughter house? ⁵No one who has escaped the world and all its ills looks back on it with condemnation. ⁶Yet he must rejoice that he is free of all the sacrifice its values would demand of him. ⁷To them he sacrifices all his peace. ⁸To them he sacrifices all his freedom. ⁹And to possess them must he sacrifice his hope of Heaven and remembrance of his Father’s Love. ¹⁰Who in his sane mind chooses nothing as a substitute for everything? 5. What is the real meaning of sacrifice? ²It is the cost of believing in illusions. ³It is the price that must be paid for the denial of truth. ⁴There is no pleasure of the world that does not demand this, for otherwise the pleasure would be seen as pain, and no one asks for pain if he recognizes it. ⁵It is the idea of sacrifice that makes him blind. ⁶He does not see what he is asking for. ⁷And so he seeks it in a thousand ways and in a thousand places, each time believing it is there, and each time disappointed in the end. ⁸“Seek but do not find” remains this world’s stern decree, and no one who pursues the world’s goals can do otherwise. 6. You may believe this course requires sacrifice of all you really hold dear. ²In one sense this is true, for you hold dear the things that crucify God’s Son, and it is the course’s aim to set him free. (ACIM, M-13.4:1–6:2)"

"Awakening to solipsism" also doesn't exist, speaking as someone who has had it. You enter a non-dual state and then your ego reacts with an interpretation "oh I'm all alone", "people are just empty", "it's all just me talking to myself". But the pure experience itself is not those descriptions. It's simply non-dual reality. Other "awakenings" like "awakening to nothingness" seem to be the same thing.