Esoteric
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@corndjorn Yes, people that don't get benifits from using psychs anymore shouldn't use them, I agree.
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@corndjorn Sorry was skimming through the thread pretty quickly. But yeah, I think we are pretty much in agreement. When psychs have done their job or act as a crutch I will obviously stop using them. But I don't know if they can be worked on deeper levels for me, and neither do you. For some people it may work great. People are unique and have different needs and tools to suite their psychology and physiology. How they work with emotions etc
One persons pile of shit is anothers persons treasure.
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Like some said, it's relative and depends on so many factors like your intention, maturity etc. For me ayahuasca and rapé have been tremendous tools for my spiritual progress. And actually not so much for dissolving your ego, but that is useful too, but what I have found out even more is to work with resistance. You will purge when the experience gets too much, and when you are being open and strive to be open in the body the medicine does wonders. Both the aya and rapé works like this. So you can work on this without psychs, of course. But damn they speed up the process if you are genuine in your seeking.
If you get caught up in concepts and past experiences on psychs they will slow down your progress. So it's not that simple as to say they do good or bad. Its about how you work with them.
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2 hours ago, Isaac Ben said:@Leo Gura I think I'm up for the challenge. Sometimes I like being overwhelmed and getting my reality fucked with lol.
@Girzo Thanks that was very helpful. The afterglow sounds quite interesting.
How does DPT it compare to 5-MeO-DMT? Was there any burning sensations when snorting it? Also what do you think about plugging it?
For some reason, that got me even more interested. Since you're very experienced with it, how does it compare to 5-MeO-DMT in both intensity and insight? I find toad way too intense and short lived when smoked that all insights I get (although profound) are kinda lost and only a vague memory lasts. Then again maybe smoking it is not the best RoA. Speaking of which, what is your preferred RoA for DPT?
5-meo-dmt is the big one I haven't gotten around to yet. Just regular DMT (ayahuasca). So can't give a comparison.
I only took DPT in the nose. Orally you need a much larger dose and even then you really dont know how much you take up so that's not recommended. Plugging is supposedly great as well.
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DPT is the psychedelic I have the most experience with, and I have a lot of experience with various psychs. DPT is the most mystical and weird of them all, and the most occult. Very easy to "ego-die". It has a very seductive feel to it and, imo, even "satanic" at times or sinister. Not in a hellish way but in a seductive way. Hard to describe with words. I've heard its been described as an absurd twin to DMT and I feel this is fairly accurate. Music is heavenly. Do yourself a favor and listen to Bach on this, if you are going to listen to music that is. You will understand what genius truly means. Bach clicked for me on such a deep level with this substance that nowadays 90% of what I listen to is Bach.
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It's a great asset and tool for evolving as a human and getting different perspectives. The problem arises when people use it to elevate themselves and put others down which I see frequently on this forum. Bragging on a message board how they are transitioning to coral and other silly stuff.
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I'd say Russell Brand is a fine example of green. If you watch his interview with Sam Harris there is still a bit of passive aggressiveness and attacks on his part.
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On 1/9/2019 at 5:37 PM, Guillem12 said:Ty for your help, how much does usually take to start feeling the kundalini rising?
Impossible to answer. Depends on a variety of factors. Dedication, time put in, how spritually gifted you are naturally etc. But stick with it, it's worth it.
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Sounds like an awesome and healthy relationship.
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@Ninie If you stop identifying with the person you will simply be. But the person has to go completely. I have only had glimpses of this but I can tell you that is beyond anything your mind can imagine or make concepts about. Just don't complicate things is my tip. Just relax more and more and sink into it. Keep it simple.
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2 hours ago, Ninie said:@Esoteric yeah it is a quick relief, I agree, it creates a false peace for a short time, but I can't be deluded by it, as everything still comes up each second, just the emotional reaction is a bit milder. And I intuitively sense that this numbing can only damage the process, if there's any..
I also know that I should let go, but as soon as I have an intention to let go and surrender, mind starts making stories and comments about this "letting go" and "surrendering", then I try to let even that go, and so on.. constant anxiety loop.
I just want to ask, what do you exactly mean by it "stopping"? I mean, what can be the outcome of it stopping? Like, then what...?
I mean when you keep getting caught up in stories and identifying with your thoughts it's not gonna stop attacking. That you get a lot of ego backlash is a good sign, that is true. But it is not gonna stop if you keep identifying with your thoughts. You are gonna have to be brave and weather the storm the best you can.
I have found Shinzen's "Hear in, feel in, see in" technique to be really good for this. I use it continously throughout the day. Also whenever i catch myself wanting to elevate myself or having thoughts about how people are gonna be impressed with how spiritual I am I use the label "spiritual ego" then go back to resting as awareness. It can't be stressed enough how important it is to wash the spiritual ego away. It can take A LOT of years from your progress.
And hey, I have used weed in the past to get rest and I still struggle with the urge to smoke when it gets rough so I hear you. You just gotta hang in there and be patient.
Best of luck.
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Go on a retreat. When you have to meditate for many hours for several days you can get motivation to keep a good routine going.
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26 minutes ago, Ninie said:Hello. posting here for the first time..
I feel like I am the most turning and decisive point of my journey. I am stuck in a place which can have only one exit - knowing the truth. I feel like I've got nothing to lose - even though it may not seem so from the outside, looking at my studies, "success", personal image and etc. But despite all this, I know it is a proper moment to surrender to the "not-knowingness" of it all. And I have done so - I actually had an experience couple days ago when my ego became so tired of the seeking, that I just gave it up and "became present", to say so. I released all seeking, thinking, gave up all the stories and kind of started living in the now. But the mind couldn't bear it for more than a day and started obsessing and screaming again about how "this is not it". So I became even more confused, depressed so that my mind seems to have created a state where I should either awaken or suffer intensely and obsessively think about "awakening". No in between. No intervals. No "normal life". Everything is irrelevant but this.
So this morning the depression and suffering became so intense that I just broke down and took an antidepressant - just 50 mg or Zoloft - one of the pills I've used for the past years for my depression. It used to take at least several days for the effect to kick in, but now it worked miraculously fast - like an anesthetic. I'm still stuck in the same place but it's like the fire is distinguished, and even though it's a physical relief, I don't feel relief on a mental state, as I know everything is just right there where it was, I just have become numb to it.
But the more the ego attacks, the more it loses its strength, doesn't it? I mentally know that resistance is a good sign, although it's accompanied with such tiring sensations of suffering. So will numbing the mind with pills slow down the process I'm going through now? Will it reduce the effectiveness?
Not necessarily. Depends on how you deal with it and how much you let go. If you continously get caught up in it, it will never let go. Its not gonna stop unless you stop putting energy into it. I feel like putting anti-depressants into your system is just a quick relief. My two cents.
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On 1/5/2019 at 10:32 PM, NoSelfSelf said:@Esoteric I only know about multiorgasmic man book where they teach you how to do the non ejaculation (body) orgasam that is benefical in so many ways (i didnt go into it) so you are not frustrated and dont have to go have sex and be tired from it...bassiclly you can manipulate with sexual energy....probably doing other stuff idk...
@NoSelfSelf Thanks, this book looks interesting. Heard of Mantak Chia before. Will check it out.
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On 1/3/2019 at 0:40 PM, Guillem12 said:Hi, i started my yoga practice after reading the yoga book recomended on the youtube videos and got some questions that hope somebody can solve: when doing the ktiya supreme fire i dont exactly know how to do the 3 locks, i looked on internet but dont fully understand what should i do maybe you know about some videos or something that might help me and i also dont know if i should hold this locks the hole 90seconds that i keep my breath or just at the begging. Ty!
You contract the area between your anus and balls(if you are male), then you suck your stomach up towards solar plexus and lastly you put your chin down towards your chest. Yes hold it the whole duration. Will get easier the more you do it
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17 hours ago, SpaceCowboy said:Bullies are great teachers. And you are theirs.
Indeed. Everything that arises in your life is a way and opportunity for you to become more aware and closer to liberation. Now this can be extremely hard to do, but it is amazing that it is like that. You can see for yourself that you get rewarded by seeing a teacher in everything.
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So I've withheld from sexual activity in the past for about 4-5 months. Though in retrospect it only led to frustration.
So anyone know good literature on how to work with sexual energy so you can use it for purification?
Note that I am not interested in literature on how to have better spiritual sex or whatever. Just how to work with sexual energy that you do not release. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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1 hour ago, Cocolove said:@ShugendoRa I've always done it just once daily, also,
Sometimes on the lesson routines it says rounds, sometimes sets, sometimes minutes, or sometimes just the exercise name, or sometimes just a number with no indication anywhere if it is the number of minutes, rounds, or sets.
Where can I find information on how kriya works, so I can properly understand the routines. The book tells you what to do but I feel like I'm not going to get very far if I don't understand what I'm doing and why it's structured how it is
I'd recommend Ennio Nimis book on Kriya Yoga. Its free at kriyayogainfo.net
Has a lot of useful information
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I am struggling with cannabis addiction myself (currently off it). And yeah weed is real tricky.. For me it makes me connected as well. And actually lately the results from monthly daily use has made the results stick when I am sober as well. So it gets me a rest from my neurotisism plus it makes me more connected. So yeah thats the tricky part.. In the end Id rather be without it. It has cost me alot so I will probably seek professional help soon. Because it always sneaks back into my life and its starting to get tiresome, this cycle.
I had a friend who was addicted to amphetamines. He was in NA meetings for years. He said at least 90% were there for cannabis addiction. This whole weed culture is really a big denial. "Cant get addicted maaan". So yeah. I hope you can recognize how the ego might be tricking you (dont really know your situation fully, maybe its a great tool that you can use responsibly)
Peace
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1 hour ago, YoYoYo said:Has kriya yoga affected your concentration skills? I have had really much trouble with different meditation techniques because of concentration issues (basically self caused ADD; internet addiction). All of my vipassana retreats have been just a waste of time because I'm thinking ALL THE TIME. I think even ayahuasca didn't quite do anything to me because of this constant mind chatter which makes me uneasy, thus wasn't able to relax.
So, do you think kriya yoga would be suitable for me?
Maybe. But I don't think a specific teaching is gonna magically solve your problem. Concentration is not easy to build (for most of us) so the best is to keep concentrating on whatever method you find most enjoyable. But yeah Kriya is excellent for concentration, if you stick with it. I'm going to my 4th Vipassana retreat in November, started this journey 2 years ago and I am struggling with concentration as well. It takes time.
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On 6/16/2018 at 0:32 AM, Etagnwo said:Unfortunately one of the main reasons his sangha has gotten so big is because he tells his devotees that there are no qualifications for obtaining enlightenment. Which actually directly goes against what his gurus guru (Ramana Maharshi) said. Ramana has all along during his life went on record saying basically what traditional vedanta teachers say is that a person must have a burning desire to realise the self and must become sattvic in order to understand who they really are.
That implies a path. A very strict path and a very high level of maturity.
Mooji ignores this and has told everyone that there is no need to practice, all a devotee must do is get it.
This results in shallow experiences that lead in most cases to delusional ideas that they have attained some kind of enlightenment because they had an experience.
Not so.
Mooji isn't "sattvic", he eats meat, to give you one example. So either you are saying Mooji isn't self realized or your statement is proven false?
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You should take a break. It goes without saying that It can do more harm than good. Yoga is one of those things that's very easy to do wrong.
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On 9/18/2018 at 7:24 AM, John Iverson said:I want a quick answer... is it ...or it isn't okay to yoga if you are not feeling well? Anytime if i do yoga i will have a fever after that.. i am sure I don't have yet fever but it all started a little awhile ago when i woke up my bed has a poop on itmy stomach is not well.. later today i feel that am not feeling well but i want to yoga, but if i do my body limitation makes me suffer ??I don't know
@John Iverson What type of Kriya Pranayama do you do? The one from SantataGamana's book?
I do the one from Gamana and I think it is important to take the advice to not force the breathing but start naturally and eventually it will be put into place.
Ennio's book is tremendous I think. If you liked Gamana there is a further and more detailed explanation in the third part of his book (Gamana's Kriya Pranayama is Sri Mukherjee's btw) about this specific type of Pranayama. It says not to force your breathing because by doing that, while having energy blocks, it can create problems in the body. So my advice would be to heal (you shouldn't do Kriya if you are not feeling well, period) and just follow Gamana's version letter by letter.
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I eat meat, vegetables, fruits and nuts and olive oil. Been keeping this diet for 1,5 months now and I like it. Works good for me. If I want a treat I buy a pineapple and honey melon, that's my "candy".
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That's great. Hope everyone sees this so they can get instantly enlightened. That's what happened to Spira, right? Or no, he spent 20+ years doing mantra/concentration meditation. I like Spira, but it's easy to say "just be aware". His prior concentration practice for sure had a part in why he could benefit so quickly from his advaita practice. And advaita is great but sometimes it takes work to be stable and interested in being aware, and this is where psychedelics CAN help to speed up this process.