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So why Russia would? You seem to make Putin seem like a crazy guy. Putin is very smart and calculating, he will not do anything that will end the planet. All Europe has to do is show strong will and he will back off. It is irrelevant what Bulgaria or Slovakia want. They are not the ones with Nukes or strong military. UK for example has a strong army and nuclear weapons. You said yourself they have a strong will to fight. That is what matters. Not weak countries. Poland is ready to fight too. Not to mention France. If Putin takes Ukraine and Moldova, I doubt he will invade any more in Europe. Also considering it will take Russia years to military recover and prepare and he is already quite old. We can give those non Nato members aid for sure, but sending troops is risking a war that can be avoided. I would rather play it safe. But that is just my opinion, I am not an expert.

Good luck getting the liberal green people to accept these courses. I live in a liberal green city and just saying that "men tend to prefer more technical fields like engineering" will get you labeled as a sexist and patriarchal. It happened to me countless, countless times until I gave up. I have read "Way of the Superior Man". it is amaizing book. But it is too radical to be taught to a green audience. Such book would work way better to a blue or orange audience. Most green people tend to demonize gender differences to the point where they downright ignore they even exist.

@Nivsch Mass murdering childreen and torturing men does take a toll on you for sure. Nazis also often resulted to alcoholism and depression after carrying out their atrocities during WW2. Dehumanization and hatred of the other will only carry you so far. When you see a mass grave filled with kids it will destroy you even if you see those kids as "vermin" (language used by Israel towards Palestinian kids).

What if we threaten Russia to nuke their forces if they move in NATO and do not intervene if non NATO countries get attacked (just give them aid). Russia is not stupid to attack NATO. I understand the legal concerns of them annexing other countries but it is not worth risk WW3 imo. If Russia moves in on NATO then we can easily use tactical nukes against their forces (not cities). It should cripple them harshly. Issue is when they they attack countries without nuclear weapons but luckily NATO has them and in the thousands. The idea of NATO troops dying to defend a non NATO country is insane to me. What is the point of NATO then if everyone can be protected? Aid is one thing but putting troops is basically heavy provocation. To me that should only be done for NATO members. @BlueOak Thoughts?

Europe is definitely USA's bitch Look at how scared they are of Israel just because USA is strong ally with it. If they had a truly independent foreign policy they would have cut out ties with Israel by now and called out their consistent war crimes. He is more complex than "Putler" or "crazy dictator" as CNN or Piers Morgan portrays him. I do not like him per say but he is complex character worthy of studying. Leo has sent some good videos on his blog for this. Europeans are weak and lack resolve. All their money is useless without resolve. We saw it with France during WW2. They surrendered after 6 weeks even though they had a strong army. They preferred to give up Paris (the fucking capital), rather than risk it turning into a battleground. If they had fought like the Soviets did, perhaps WW2 would have ended much earlier (we can just speculate). Also, if the Soviets gave up as easily as France did, Axis would have won WW2. So resolve is super important and Europeans tend to lack it. It is the result (imo) of decaying nationalism and comfortable lives. Wars require a degree of nationalism to be fought which is currently missing, especially in Western Europe. Poland would be exception.

You are conveniently ignoring one very important detail. Russia has 4 times the population of Ukraine, meaning it is much better at absorbing human looses. From all the research I have done the ratio is around 50% more Russians killed, Ukraine needs a 400% ratio to even break even. It is similar to WW2 eastern front. Nazis killed on average 2 times more Soviets soldiers than they lost soldiers but because of the population difference, they were over ran in the end. Even though the production up to 1944 was very high for Germany (mostly due to slave labor properly used by Albert Speer) what happened is that all the new planes, tanks etc had nobody to use them. Ukraine, even if they can hold 2-3 years more war, will be totally destroyed from a human capital point of view. They have lost like 50.000 young people or something that have fled Ukraine. Russia has yet to do a proper mobilization. Meanwhile Ukraine snatches people from the street. If they want to fight it is their right but "lets continue the war until Putin dies 5 years from now" is super selfish and basically you expect the Ukranian youth to do all the dying for you. They tried in 2023 and it failed. Russian defenses were really good. What this aid will do is just allow them not to be pushed anymore but liberating territory is another matter. They managed to do it in 2022 because Russia was over extended (their whole invasion force was very small) and lack of proper defenses. Also their tactics have improved in time. In 2023 they tried and it failed with massive looses from Ukraine. And Ukraine already had like 50 billion military aid from USA. So I am not optimistic this will happen this time. Russia has seriously stepped up production and is also getting weapons from its allies. Europe production is falling flat on what is needed. However the aid will definetly allow Ukraine to fight without collapsing. But liberating the country seems not feasible to me. We agreed that defending is easier and attacking requires superior numbers which Ukraine seems to lack. What do you think?

I was being sarcastic since that is the justification Israel uses to commit genocide

@Vrubel So why was Israel made on such a barbaric and violate part of the world as you call it. Considering it was the Europeans that treated Jews horribly for millenia, it is their job to give them land. THEIR land. I think if Israel was made somewhere in Europe, this whole bullshit would have been avoided. There were many candidates to make Israel and they choose arguably the part of the world that had treated Jews the softest. This is why I fundamentally find it so unfair. It is not that I am against an Israeli state per say, but I would be much more in favor of it being at the expense of countries that hurt Jews like Germany, Austria, Italy, Hungary etc instead of countries that were relatively nice to Jews. What do you think? Also USA could have been an option but USA was never involved in Jews massacres so that would also feel somewhat unfair imo. Personally if Israel was made in one of the German lands like Bavaria (Hitler's origin), I would probably be much more supportive of Israel. Seems to me like Europe wanted to apologize to Jews for what it did to them but not give them their own land, so they just put them in the Middle East which they controlled at the time. So I feel like they are the victims here, forced to pay for someone else crimes.

So in countries like UAE Qatar Saudi etc it is like that? Not war torn countries please. Those are bad whether you are Jew or not. It is not a function of you being a jew, it is a function of the country being in chaos. It is not safe for Muslims too. I saw this happened in 1948 after the Nakba. I am talking about the period before 1900 when Zionism did not exist. Were there massacres large scale often for hundreds of years against jews? If yes, can you send me some sources. Like polgrom style. Skirmishes can always happen, it happened even within Sunnis. So my fundamental question is, was your life as a Jews much worse than a Muslim in the Middle East before 1900? Sounds to me like a mob boss killing dozens and building a manson there where his family lives in luxury. Sure, life is good for them there. But that good life is built on others blood and oppression of millions that already happens. If 9 million Jews live good lives at the expense of life for 7 million Palestinians being far worse because of it, to me that is not a win. It is super biased. But ok, you made your point. Life for Jews is better in Israel. Thanks for your reponse. To me Zionism seems like a response of European oppression of Jews which was indeed a horrible thing, not of Arab oppression. Basically it feels like Arab Muslims are paying the price of the crimes commited by the Europeans towards Jews for a long time. Which is why if the world wanted to be truly fair, they would have created Israel in Germany and kick out the Germans in that piece of land. Much more fitting. But just my opinion.

Pardon my ignorance but what I have seen there were many jews in the region before Israel and there were little to no skirmishes. They started in late 18th century when Zionism was first invented. Before, for centuries, Jews were treated in Middle East FAR better than anywhere else. They lived side by side for centuries in relative peace and harmony. Now they are hated like hell. How did Zionism exactly benefit the Jew/Arab/Muslim relationship?

So did Israel with their indiscrimiate bombing of Gaza. Israeli government activities are protected by the Israeli people that elect those politicians (Hey they are a democracy) and they died by Palestinian attacks as a result. See how ugly your logic seems when I turn it against you.

It has been wiledely reported that many civilians on October were killed by IDF crossfire. They have this thing called the Hannibal directive which is extremely cynical and cruel. Hannibal Directive - Wikipedia So lets not act like they really give a shit. If they cared they would have done a second permanent ceasefire and freed all the hostages. For Israel destroying Rafah is more important the the hostages. It is comical to think they are invaded Rafah for the hostages, if they cared they would have gotten back all of them and then permanently withdraw from Gaza. By "they" I am referring strictly to the top leadership here, not the common population. To avoid confusions. The average Israeli cares a lot about the hostages. Also considering that many of the firstly released hostages were reported to have lived at houses of random Gazans during their time there, it shows total lack of care to bomb Gaza so harshly. There is no telling whether you are killing some of your hostages when you bomb everything. No wonder Israelis are mad, their government really gives no shit about the hostages.

@Vrubel I do. Also most of the IDF and Israeli need to be hanged for crimes against humanity. No partial justice. I do not hold the IDF more highly than Hamas at this point. It is like comparing Hitler and Stalin to me. Trash vs garbage. I can say the same of you being proud of Israel genocide and mass murder. Then do not expect us to empathize with Israel. Why should we? For some reason you consider the Israeli cause for "self defense" more legitimate than Palestinian cause for end of occupation.

UN I think confirmed them. More trustworthy than Israel.

I would say the amount of hate Hamas got for killing 800 civilians I have not seen anywhere like ever. In most wars far more civilians died and I did not see the outrage and condemnation. In a way 800 Israelis are worth more to Western governments that tens of thousands of other groups. "Biggest massacre of Jews since the holocaust ". I did not see any of this rhetoric when Armenians were massacred by Azeris. Where was the "Biggest massacre of Armenians since the Armenian genocide" let us not globally condemn Azerbajan etc. Hmmmm Perhaps most of Western media and governments have a clear bias towards Isarelis.