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  1. 8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

    It’s a paradox yea..  to answer that first part. I know just as little as u I’m no enlightened but it’s more intuitive 

     

    hmm. I mean don’t some people say that the core of religions is non dual , I haven’t read the scriptures so I don’t know that. So maybe god isn’t how people think about it. 
    and maybe the prophets on earth they are still human in a way so the message they spread about goodness will be humane and they stand by it but the ultimate god is maybe the non dual with no bias aka nothing at all. I don’t know just a bit of speculation now 

    Look..God =infinity.  Hopefully we agree on that . Now what are the ramifications of infinity ? Two contradictory outcomes ..:

    1- there must be pain as a possibility..otherwise infinity would be finite. 

    2-there must be no pain whatsoever as a possibility..otherwise infinity would be finite .

    A paradox. A huge contradiction that touches the whole notion of infinity and put it under question. 

    How reconcile this paradox? 


  2. 8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

    I don’t think one needs to be enlightened to answer this per se, it can kind of be intuitive . Anything but this explanation feels kinda human made to me, ofc all words are but still there is a difference. I’d say there is no reason for it, it’s just appearing and nothing can stop it from it. If there is a god that has a will and that can choose to not create pain, wouldn’t that god be limited? Because it’s a something with a will.  So it’s not all of reality, reality outside of it could appear as pain and nothing can stop it. I don’t think there is any why. And I’m not someone who glamorizes this I wish shit was limited too and some things shouldn’t exist imo ,  it’s the only sane way of feeling . 
     

     

    Sure ..if reality is infinite it must include pain ..otherwise it would be limited.  But guess what ..If reality was infinite ..then it must be a possibility for there not being pain at all . That's the paradox of infinity . 

    God is said to be all good and loving and Merciful in all religions and mystical traditions..how can that be when this motherfucker is watching what's happening in Palestine and doesn't do shit to stop it ? He actually the creator of it !.


  3. Albert Camus said that there is only one philosophical question that should be asked ..and that is "should we kill ourselves or not ?"

    The guy was a nihilist (or existentialist)..and a pessimistic person. I don't share this view and disagree with him on that . But today I wanna discuss with you guys the most important philosophical question in my point of view ...and that is "why does pain exist ?".

    That's it. To be honest..I don't give a shit about Truth..I only care about my happiness and well being ..and so if I'm God and I created this world ..and if I wasn't a fucking idiot I would not create pain at all . Some people say there is end to suffering but not to pain . They argue that pain is inevitable..while suffering is optional . I call that BS and cop-out.  We experience pain. And as Arthur Schopenhauer said "life is oscillating between boredom and pain ". Pleasure is so fleeting . The older you live you become more aware that the vast majority of life is ugly.. brute ..tough ..painful..etc.

    So..why pain when a woman give birth to a child ? Why do we have to experience "hunger attacks " 3 times at least every fucking day to stop the continuing pain of hunger ? Why we get injured?  Why we experience tooth ache? Why hell is part of absolute infinity ? 

    That's my question that i want to hear an answer to from enlightened folks here ..why isn't reality 100% pleasure?  This god (which is me ) is so stooooopid to create pain when his all-powerful ass is capable of creating endless heaven. 


  4. 12 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

    I live with loads of stories. I just don't take them (overly) serious.

    Let's be real, life would be boring without stories. They are like a bunch of amazing, funny, silly, colorful, sparkly toys that keep us engaged and entertained from morning 'till nighttime. But what happens when you take them too serious? You suffer. And that just ain't fun, now is it?

    So, there you go. There's no need to get rid of your stories, as long as you recognize and appreciate them for what they are: Beautiful playthings, given to us by the universe to enrich our experience and fill us with childlike awe and wonder.

    Man suffers only because he takes seriously what the gods made for fun.

    - Alan Watts -

    No . Stories are essential for survival .you couldn't have human life without em. Imagine living as an empty headed nobody who abandoned society and just begging for bread on the streets ...you will end up like that without Stories.  When you interact in society with other human chimps who are also not awake and deeply stuck in the matrix just like you..you have to practice etiquette and play by the social matrix's rules . Without Stories you couldn't sleep at night..because you need an ontological bedrock of assumptions that it's safe to drift off .as an atheist myself..I don't have that . And I suffer from insomnia. Do you know that deeply religious people are more happy than secular people? There has been studies done on thar.


  5. 10 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

    Errrr... have you ever met anyone over the age of seventy? In my experience, they tend to be the most nagging, impatient and thin-skinned persons on the entire planet. - But then again, I have been living in post-WWII Germany for most of my life, so I guess I might have been exposed to a particularly skewed sample, lol.

    Haha that's an exception for the rule . It seems like a Sine wave function (Google what that is because I don't have time to explain it here)..I say there is an ebb and rising to the maturity function.  Kids cry over candy . Teenagers cry over video games.  Adults cry over money or their spouse cheating on them. Etc but it seems like when you pass through a certain threshold (like 70 years old ) that you become like a kid again. 


  6. @StarStruck all living beings are a mistake in evolution by natural selection. You are decaying every single day and getting close to the grave ...but because you feed your body you stay alive.  If you were a rock you would decay faster because rocks have inertia.  You have no right to live ..because your life depends on other creatures' life . Life is a design of a sadistic motherfucker. 


  7. 6 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

    Exactly, that is going some steps deeper in the truth, I was just trying to do the finger pointing to the moon part Lol...

    I know.  What you said is valid in that context.  But I mean open the frickin bible and in the first paragraph in Genesis there are dozens of scientific errors . Bullshit in the very first page . Better to do away with it and throw it in the trash ...where it belongs.  You will NEVER become enlightened unless you take your holy book and take a shit and a piss on it .


  8. 17 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

    For example: Are we able to be happy when our wants aren't met or when we fail to avoid what we don't want? 

    Good question.  I would say it depends on the person's maturity. A slob teenager will cry like a coward if his dad took his PlayStation out.  But a mature person is OK with most of his life . Maturity usually comes with age and life experiences.  My theory is that the older you get the more you become able to experience unconditional happiness that isn't contingent on external conditions. 


  9. @UnbornTao that's hedonism not happiness .  I agree tho that We don't need to abstract off and theorizing about what happiness means.   I can Actually go back in my past and remember my  experiences of happiness..but Weren't they linked to specific things (maybe getting high grades.. Buying new iPad.. Getting new friends etc)... Now a hedonist will argue that you just keep doing more and more of these good feeling activities and that's basically what a happy life is! Do you agree ?

    43 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

    I used to watch Jim a while back, few years back then I stopped. No particular reason as I like to spread my wings. Tony, I've only seen one or two of his videos, but I'm not a fan. Anna yes, I love her and have been watching her for a while. I watched a lot of stuff.

    Now after my confusion crises seemed to happen and I accidentally stumbled across Emerson non-duality and started watching him a lot, something happened as described in my "Oh My God, this is it" thread and ever since then a lot of the contraction seems to apparently fell away from the body allowing for more clarity, even though that's still only apparent since there's no one that gains more clarity. It's more of a losing. Then i've been watching a lot of Jim lately. The funny thing is I was already familiar with Jim but it was never as clear as it seems to be happening now. A lot of the stuff he says seems so obvious now and has broken away a lot of the confusion that seemed to be happening. It's the only message that totally resonates with something inside the body and is loosening the contraction a bit. No one is doing it, it's just seeming to happen. It's not a doing but more of an undoing, if you may. 

    Everything now is less tension and the seeking energy is dieing. There's still remnants of an individual here and I'm not claiming to be awakened or anything like that. I'm not even saying there's not a me or that there's a me, it's just what seems to arise in the talking but is not being claimed as a me doing it. Its hard to speak without saying I or me but it doesn't matter.

    As long as this "message " is making you happy then go for it . You are on the right track . Don't listen to naysayers. 


  10. 7 hours ago, TheCloud said:

    @Someone here Does one who obtains happiness directly then stop eating, drinking, smoking, gambling, etc.?  Or, are they satisfied by anything, regardless of quality or content?

    As long as you are a human rat you will keep running hunting the carrot..you will chase pleasure and escape from pain..this does not ever change. Even enlightened folks need to eat ,shit ,and fuck..But the difference is that they are deep down aware that its all for nothing at the end .

    To be in a state of 24/7 bliss and ecstasy is something that does not seem realistic to me . Even Jesus suffered on the cross . This is spiritual nonsense to say the ego will be in bliss.  However..the ego is inside bliss . Bliss is the substratum of existence. Its the background of the ego. The ego appears inside this bliss in the background . But the ego will never be blissful eternally .unless you disidentify with the ego completely and identify as bliss ...but that's called death. 


  11. We are all addicts .. Just to different things . There is a deep hole that addicts desperately try to futilely fill with food or money or drugs or alcohol  or sex or good reputation or fame or any externals.  i call that a "spiritual hole" that those addicts(including myself)are trying to fill with externals and bodily comforts and indulgences... but it can never be filled with such things.

    The more you try to fill that hole with such things..the hungrier you will get. The hole gets deeper the more you chase or catch externals. The more you feed it..the deeper and hungrier it gets. In that way.. the greedy always starve. They starve themselves by feeding themselves. I'm not just talking about literal food here.. but any externals or bodily feelings including money..wealth..your reputation ..sex.. alcohol.. gambling..cigarettes(which Is my biggest addiction)..i say Anyone who attempts to obtain happiness and/or fulfillment via such things will be miserable and have an ever-deepening ever-hungrier hole that makes them continuesly miserable and sad and depressed.

    Nothing finite will ever fully fulfil you .because you are infinite. Your desire is infinite . Consider for example that the porn content online is technically endless..and yet the more you watch porn the more you want to watch more . Contemplate this guys .


  12. 17 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    I think this is what you think the law states (which I mostly agree that it should state and which warrants a different and more suitable name), but I think most people have a more flowery conception of it, hence I was referring to the "usual conception" of it.

     It is flowery 🙂! Its too good to be true isnt it ? I believe wholeheartedly 100% in the Law of Attraction. Two years ago i was about to suicide  myself because i dont have a girlfriend..i just used vision board and practiced manifestation  and in less than a year i met a girl and i fucked her brains out llol. So i don't  just "believe"..but I KNOW! The Law of Attraction is a law of the Universe  just as the law of gravity. But instead of gravity LA works by your thoughts. So instead of an object being thrown or falling towards you..its your thoughts coming to you. Your thoughts are alive and whatever you think creates what you see in your life. 

    🙏


  13. 1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

    It says you attract things that you intend to attract, but it misses that you sometimes attract things that you don't intend to attract but which you're inadvertedly paying attention to. 

    Haha its very simple my dude ..when I tell you try to NOT think of a blue kangaroo ..immediately your mind will get filled with mental images of blue kangaroos floating around . Whatever you focus on either negative or positive is attracted . So when you fear something too much too often it will more likely happen..and if you want something so bad so often..the chances of it being attracted info your life will harness.  That's what the law states .think about it as each thought carries an electric charge ..could be positive charge or negative ..negative attracts negative when you think fearful thoughts ..and positive attracts positive when you think positive thoughts .