Nivsch

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  1. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    24 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

    It is impossible for this to be negligence, it is a maximum security border, there are surely military personnel on permanent guard. In the end everything will be investigated and revealed, although lately it seems that people forget everything.

    For example, it was said that videos of horrible torture were going to be made public, but the only thing that has been made public are videos of executions. It is already known that there were executions, but from the beginning there was an emphasis on torture, which has generated a lot of hatred. It was said that they were going to be shown and it has not been done. 

    Yes there were few. Nobody thought hamas will get in 2000 terrorists. Almost everybody thought hamas is dettered and won't dare to do a massive attack and also not interested in an attack these days. This was a combination of a holiday with minimum alert level, and a wrong conception we had about the intention of the other side, especially after years of conflict that cause psychological habituation and grinding.

  3. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    41 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

    So when they broke the fence and hundreds of armed men entered, they didn't see it? They have the latest surveillance technology, the steel dome, satellites, thousands of cameras.

    There were people who recorded the paragliders with their phones. There were people who called emergency services saying that they were being attacked by terrorists and they did not receive help until 13 hours later. all this is impossible

    6 hours later (for the first forces). But still too long. I'm not expert at all but it feels to me that the whole system has to be a double-agent for hamas in order to this conspiracy to be true which is quite impossible.

  4. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Breakingthewall This was monitored and even seen every day by IDF observers near the border. They saw all the training hamas did near the border. But the commanders above them underestimated it and dissmised it as not so important. "hamas isn't capable of such things".

    Our conception and interpretation of what we have seen - were the problem.

     

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    1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

    Israel responds to international public opinion. Israel wants to expel the Arabs, it is normal after 100 years of war. It's not that Israel are evil psychopaths, it's that so many years of war and murders generate that. two groups that hate and kill each other daily living together for 100 years is unsustainable. Without public opinion, the strongest would expel the weakest unceremoniously, this means killing children, the elderly, becoming a demon. In Israel the extreme right governs because they are legally elected again and again. So you can intuit what is the real desire of the population

    Sorry but this is just utterly absurd.

    Learn a bit about Israel seriously.

  8. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Leo Gura I heard yesterday in an interview of an Israeli commander that the terrorists were in a much lower level of fighting ability and he said that he think there is an opposite correlation between the bloodthirsty-ness of a person to its fighting ability and I though there is a lot in what he said. Israel is real professional what you can only achieve from orange and above when you are more strategical, technical, consistent and disciplined.

  9. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    4 hours ago, Vrubel said:

     I have no idea how they are going to clear the tunnels, maybe with robotics, gasmasks and some special sedating gas that makes both the hostages and guards go unconscious, I really don't know if there is such a thing. The IDF must better live up to its reputation and show some fighting creativity or some new secret technology. 
     

    Don't worry, some world corrupt organizations and BBCs will find a way to accuse Israel even if use those safe technology and only on the terrorists. 

    They can only see morality up to their true subconscious level of morality, and their active efforts to find wrongs almost only in Israel's acts is an expression of their own (subconscious) pockets of support they have in their mind to the less moral side in this war.

    Thats why we should listen to anybody but ourselves after what we had in october 7th.

  12. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    9 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

    @Nivsch Precision drone strikes and give back Palestinians more rights and work towards equality. 

    This conception has been tried and proven wrong and backfired again and again when it comes to the palestinians. You dont know how much work-permissions Israel gave them during last years. Thousands. It only did the opposite result.

  13. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    1) There are laws and norms against bombing civilians.

    2) If Israel wants to commit war crimes, that is their business. But the US should not fund it. Funding this is damaging US reputation and will result in terrorist attacks in the US for a decade to come. The US does not need another "war on terror".

    But what can Israel do differently?

    The main problem is that without do those carpet bombings to neutralize hamas's traps and hamas's strategical advantage, Israeli soldiers will be sitting ducks in the field.

  15. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @zazen The occupation of west bank has nothing to do with hamas-ISIS attack on october 7th in the same way that the occupation of west bank didnt cause the 11.9 attack and all the terror attacks in europe during the last decade.

    BTW Jerusalem is part of the west bank and because our deep connection to Jerusalem I think it is justified to occupay at least half of the city, so anyway part of the occupation has valid reasons to it if you want to be fair.

    Actually eastern jerusalem is highly occupied by arabs even today.

     

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    2 hours ago, Scholar said:

    This is a little worrisome:

    https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/HHP_Oct23_KeyResults.pdf

     

    Over 50% of 18-24 aged participants answer Hamas mass murder of over 1,200 Israeli civilians can be justified.

    This is US registered voters by the way.

     

    @Leo Gura

    Is it just me or does image embedding not work anymore?

    Those voters are all from USA or widespreaded all over the world?

  20. Posted

    8 hours ago, DawnC said:

    Being the stronger side doesn't automatically make you the aggressor. If you believe that if Israel were to withdraw from the West Bank, Palestinians would adopt a 'live and let live' mindset like yours, you are living in a dream world. Israel's continued control is primarily fueled by its citizens' fear of a recurrence of what happened in Gaza (rather than being driven by a religious fanatic approach like major part of the Palestinian society). This perspective overlooks the societal structures, levels of development, and values held by both Israelis and Palestinians, as it's emotionally easier to sympathize with the weaker side.

    edit:

    His suggested solution is ridiculous. It is a 'La La Land' approach that will never work.

    Israel is not without fault, but his accusations are exaggerated, and he appears to lack an understanding of the realities of war.

    well Said 🙏

  21. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

    Yes, but it seems that he has a public tomb and people visit it and honor him, and many settlers consider him a hero.

    Let's see, this is a guy who entered a mosque killing unarmed people. Those settlers who idolize him would want to do the same, I suppose, just like the minister of security. There are genocide in the settlements and in the government of Israel, it is obvious, then a genocide will occur

    Part of them. I bet it is still a minority.

    There are also Israeli settlers who are very sensitive and developed people.

  22. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    42 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

    A lot of videos like this. The settlers are like nerds that feel strong and bully the Palestinian because have the army behind. 

    https://youtu.be/Mag5r7JdJwA?si=HjglFtULXxfh77Ga  

     

    https://youtu.be/pfMc2Y43bdo?si=KFao0pVJUp5ZgeAf

    Yes this is a problem.

    But from your last couple of messages it seems that you put all the blame on Israel.

    You can if you want. But this isn't going to get you closer to the truth.

    And if this is your agenda and where your emotions are, I will not be able to convince you otherwise.

  23. Posted

    13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

    I read that this guy is idolized for a lot of Israeli. What is the difference between this guy and Hamas? 

    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein 

    If Israel has this kind of people, could you imagine how would be to live is west bank being an Arab close those people supported by the police and army? 

    Yes he is a terrorist.

    But this is an utterly extreme case in here.

  25. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Nabd I feel that you believe Israel trying to attack civilians deliberately what shows you dont know Israel logic and mentality.

    The debate has no value because I won't change your mind.

    I just hope that this round will be the last one and after we finish hamas Israel won't need to dirt it hands anymore in that polluted swamp and not be responsible anymore for disfunctional population who supported those animals and now they are eating the meal they have cooked.