Olaf
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I am gonna delete this post in 48 hours so read well and learn guys.. this is me free associating and flirting with some hot girl, see how I am acccusing her of coming on to me? That is the frame I took here and had fun with it. Also you can't do this when you aren't in flow, meaning if you aren't cold approaching. You are in flow shit like this comes naturally to your mind, but here you get a bit of an idea how it goes.
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btw a good way to tell a story and make her ask questions is to have your story and right before a certain plot happens, you don't say it, but you make her curious, wanting to ask you a question. For example "I was on vacation to Barcelona and...... (long story).... anyways next day something crazy happend, it still makes me laugh " Then if she gets the bait she will be like "what happend??" and now you got her asking you questions and you can even delay the story a bit for some extra tension.
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@LordFall I am an INFP even tho I have been pushing my social life to the limit, so I am probably more in an extroverted state at the moment, but I could easily go back to not socialising at all and be all introverted and stuff, I even get drained at some point especially during day game, where I will go in state after around an hour, then I will be in state for like 2 hours and then it crashes and I don't want to talk to anyone anymore hahaha
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I went all in this weekend, I did both day and night game and I have lost count of how many girls I have approached but definitely above 100. These are the things I learned. 1. day game and night game are very different, woman are at night together or with a guy or guys, so you have to approach 2 sets or bigger sets also the energy is much more outgoing and fun. During the day you can more easily find one girl without friends, which makes you have a more intimate conversation. The energy is a bit more normal during the day compared to at night where you can go fucking nuts. 2. don't ask questions in the beginning, you are tempted to ask questions, but rather keep those for later. It is kind of like being an entertainer, you entertain them and lead them, doesn't mean be a clown, but just be self amused and when they feel attraction they will show interest either by touch, asking questions or other IOI's and then asking open ended questions makes sense. 3. Be social all the time, I talked to all the girls at night, but also all the guys, at some point I was on the stage at karaoke, making everyone jump, screaming my heart out through the mic and having more fun then ever. So don't get stuck on just girls, talk to guys aswell, motivate them, make them have a good time, but also don't hang too long with them, you want to keep approaching woman. During the day keep saying hi to people, give people a box, I like to do a push-up in the middle of the street, stuff like that to keep you in state, never completly stop interacting with people, always make conversation, even when it is very small. 4. When intimidated, give value. Think of how you can give value rather then take value, you might have an intimidating set, but if you think of how you can add value at night that might mean fun and during the day that might be your presence or something more substantial. Generousity is huge, giving someone a compliment can make someones day. So whenever stuck in your head, be selfless, give, be generous, that will get you out of your head when it matters most, like when you approach that 9 or 10 5. stop rejecting yourself, aslong as she has not given you a hard no, you have time to practice to talk to a woman, so instead of leaving and rejecting yourself, stay in the conversation and open your mouth, better to say something stupid then to walk away saying nothing at all. This is especially harder during the day where people are on the move and you feel like you freeze up and reject yourself. 6. During the day give a hard stop, meaning commit to the stop, strong vocal projection, hand in front of them, go all in. Not like high energy as you do when going out, because that is making people confused. 7. Focus mainly on interacting with as many people as you can, remaining social state, looking for the win in every interaction to build winner effect, at night have a ton of fun, during the day relax and more chill vibe, but still able to do a hard stop and get someones attention and interest. 8. Your value isn't the same, it is moment to moment, at one moment you could be the top alpha guy having a 9 or 10 be interested into you, another moment you could get rejected by a 5, so what is your worth? It is whatever you believe it is, I woke up and my thought was "I deserve every single girl in the world" this was my natural thought, because no one else is approaching, I literally look at a guy with a girlfriend and think to myself, he doesn't even deserve it, he hasn't gone out and done the approaches, I even feel the urge to just go and out play him, but that is a petty egoic game I am not gonna play. 9. Seeing my wingmen get in state was eye-opening: you could see his eyes got wider, he saw opportunity and went for it, boom boom, the energy rises up and you feel it is like you can finally see. Your not looking with eyes of fear anymore, oh what if I get rejected or whatever. You get kinda fearless way more bold energy, aswell as like a weight has been lifted. Very intresting to see that in someone else then myself as I know how it feels to be in flow state, but never seen someone else be in it. I notice myself to get in state with bigger sets of 4 or 5 girls or a girl on the phone, some "difficult" set like that. 10. Lastly I would say what Owen says, an alpha men doesn't focus on only getting dates or sex, an alpha men leads men. Which is very true, I have pushed my brothers to the limit this weekend and got them both in state. I even had a new guy who never approached before and got to make him approach girls 10 times which was a real win for him and he was so grateful. So help out, again going back to generosity, but also alpha state, which is to help others, same thing as I am doing here, I am sharing knowledge I rarely reply on this forum, because you either have consumers or creators, I am a creator, I am an action taker, I like to contribute value instead of absorbing it, that is why I kinda got to hate any theory even when what I write her all sounds quite like theory lol. Anyways those were 10 things I learned this weekend, there are some value nuggets in these texts, so you might want to read it again.
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@Yimpa or start barking hehe
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@Natasha Tori Maru yeah an example would be I approached this girl today and I said "I love your trousers, you look quite creative... let me guess your an artist" she wasn't an artist, but we both got to the conclusion that she had an artsy vibe with her glitter make up and it made for a more fun interaction then all these interview questions. If she starts showing interest aswell, then I might ask more open-ended questions. But as a general rule for myself right now, I don't want to be the first to ask questions.
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I would say with me and most guys who are starting is that they ask too many questions, leading towards showing way too much interest. Like imagine someone asking "what do you do for work?" and then "oh you work in this city?" and then "how is it to live here?" that is kind of the loop of questions most people that begin get stuck in and the girl gets bored as hell and feels like you are investing in her. Instead she should be investing into you, so asking one question probably won't do harm, but these loops of endless questions is just very high-interest as well as boring. If you can ask one or no questions at all and mainly tell a story from whatever she has given you like with your nurse example. Then it can get into a really good flow where she eventually will ask questions and show interest into you. If you go directly to qualifying questions the assumption is that you have already shown enough attraction and that could work if she is physically attracted to you, but if we are not basing it on physical attraction, then the attraction has to be build first with stories or as mystery does it with magic.
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@VioleGrace don´t take it too literally that you spend 10 mins making assumptions. But I mean replace a question with an assumption. Example: "are you from spain?" to an assumption "you look like you are from spain... let me guess you are a Spanish tap dancer" then she will correct you and whatever she answers you can tell a story about. So instead of only make assumptions, maybe the better term would be, replace a question with an assumption.
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@Joseph Maynor try it out and see for yourself
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Try to not ask questions while talking, make assumptions, and with what information you get from those assumptions talk and tell a story, you will notice she starts to respond and eventually asks questions to you, which way you want to have it, instead of asking questions to her. Now she is showing interest instead of you showing interest into her. It is hard to do, because you are so used to ask questions, but it is a great thing to do in conversations. For example `you seem like you are from portugal` then she says `no I am from italy` then you can talk a story about italy and eventually she will start asking questions to you. Then you got her hooked. I have practiced this for a bit and the responses are great.
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@LordFall yes I was out for 4 days this week, I am really starting to get better at it. I am learning some stuff I will share on here too.
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While my wingmen is now on a date with a 9 who I pushed him to approached, I am having extra motivation to go out. Like now it feels like anything is possible and there is 0 competition. He told me that girl said to him she never got approached, probably because everyone is too intimidated to go up and approach, but this is an example of what can happen when you just go anyways. I could have been sitting on a date with her if I approached first, so now my mind is blown and literally is like, why the fuck do I sit at home? Lets go out and approach. Some motivation for you guys too, what the fuck are you doing at home watching Netflix for? Go out and have fun.
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btw this song helps me get into state https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJYjbDnyx-o&list=RDgJYjbDnyx-o&start_radio=1
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@Natasha Tori Maru intresting, I will try it out today
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The biggest hurdle has been for me normalising something that isn´t normally done. It isn´t common for people to talk to others, even saying hi, good day, or give a simple compliment, this is not normal for people in big cities like Amsterdam. I would almost say smaller cities or villages are much more social. I was visiting a smaller city and talked to this elderly woman for 30 mins a few days ago and she said hi to every person that came by. Then she told me `I don´t care if they don´t say hi back, that is also okay` I loved that mindset, she was a confident talkative lady hehe and I think that like, why isn´t that normal? We are so conditioned to not be social, like even having a small talk with someone seems very rare for people. We are all so busy with our own life, the only genuine place of socialising might be around night time where you go to a club or something, but even there I rarely see guys approach or they are just drunk and approach in this drunk state. It is literally so niche what I do, that sometimes it can feel like you're the only weirdo doing this. Which makes you get more in your head of course. I think that is the path when you are doing something on a higher level. If you want to evolve, you will realise how little evolved most people are. You will realise the group think where it should be "normal" that no one talks to no one and minds their own business, which is so depressing. I am being vunerable here, these are my honest thoughts and this is how I have been feeling. On the other side, there is 0 competition, because no one is talking to others, NO ONE is talking to others, it is literally depressing, but true. I am a bit sad for the world, I feel a bit of a calling to help people become social again, as this is also where allot of our issues are, we are socially isolated, and have little empathy, we are no longer social creatures like in tribes where we used to dance and sing and have connection with eachother, now it is your friends and family against the rest of the world, which is so isolating. Why can't we all be a bit more social? Why do I have to be the only weirdo approaching others and making small talk? Why isn't this learned in high school? Why are we conditioned to be so focused on ourselves instead of bringing value to others? These are some really deep questions I am thinking about now, this goes much deeper then just PUA, this is like programming of our minds by society. Is it to make us feel insecure and compensate with other means? Like makeup, working out, alcohol etc? To make money? Is it a plan to make us feel insecure? So many questions. I just had to share this, this has been weighing heavy on my heart for a bit. on a side note I have been lucky lately to find my tribe of like minded idiots who I go approach with and making me feel more normal, thanks to Owens free tour <3
