Does exercising really make you live longer?

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

Because you are neurotic or homosexual.

Bro you're literally psychotic  I'm laughing too hard to be able to write a response.

[Schizophonia]

37 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

@Schizophonia

 

So there is something within the cat that has changed how it interprets the otherwise stressful situation (cognitive appraisal). The same is true for anything else you might consider stressful, including working out while screaming your balls off. If you find working out to be stressful, maybe you're just not very good at it. Maybe you're just a pencil-necked individual (sorry, I love Bugezism ). 

You don't understand, stress is not physical suffering.
Stress is the coping mechanism, to maintain blood sugar levels and possibly repair damage.
Even if you adapt to the pain, it doesn't change the stress.

14 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Schizophonia

Years ago, I was fit compared to now. I was mostly doing push-ups, pull-ups, and other exercises using dumbbells. The feeling of being fit and strong and knowing that I can improve and be more fit and how much I could survive the pain was highly motivating and desirable.

No one cares about your arms, it's not even something anyone will see most of the time.
It's an illusion, what matters is your look and your energy. 

[Schizophonia]

6 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Bro you're literally psychotic  I'm laughing too hard to be able to write a response.

Why ?

What is the relationship between psychosis and the declaration that bodybuilding has little interest other than responding to insecurities, or preparing to get fucked in the onion ?

🤔

[Schizophonia]

Btw, I have nothing against homosexuals. In fact, in some cases I can be attracted to certain very specific phenotypes of guys, some people know.

mhh

Okay, I'll stop there.

[Nemra]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

No one cares about your arms

I know.

I did it for myself because I enjoyed being strong. You don't understand the feeling of it. You are doing it for its sake, for being and feeling strong. At least I think that way.

[Schizophonia]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I know.

I did it for myself because I enjoyed being strong. You don't understand the feeling of it. You are doing it for its sake, for being and feeling strong. At least I think that way.

True strength is to be grounded and uninhibited, in other words not to identify excessively with the outside.

 

[Nemra]

@Schizophonia I'm talking about physical strength.

[UnbornTao]

My take wasn't meant to disparage weight lifting. I was pointing out that sports have a function that isn't just mechanically moving the body -- winning a game, throwing an opponent, etc. Whether it is sports, running, going to the gym, doing callisthenics, etc., enjoy them all.

"Does a sedentary lifestyle decrease your lifespan and overall health?"

Likely, to simplify, yes.

Edited June 12, 2024 by UnbornTao

[Schizophonia]

10 hours ago, Nemra said:

@Schizophonia I'm talking about physical strength.

The symbolism does not matter, it is relative and above all it is only what conditions the management of energies, in other words having a piece of protein a little larger and being able to supposedly lift things a little heavier has no meaning in absolute terms.
What you're really looking for in fine is the feeling of power you think it gives you, especially in terms of seduction (would you do the same thing on a desert island?).
Except that it's false, it will never make you STRONG but just possibly more anxious and therefore feminine again.
This is how you have bodybuilders, or simply "successful" men with mannered tendencies, masochistic fantasies etc, because no matter how strong they appear, they are mostly constantly stressed, so with a weak sense of self, and will seek the phallus outside, like a woman.

Edited April 5, 2024 by Schizophonia

[Applegarden8]

Yes, it does. In moderation which means more than 0 or irregular exercise. Long story short - the body is supposed to be used and will perform better if maintained and lubricated by the exercise.

You can also do exercise severely incorrectly, which is what you should avoid like not doing it after a meal, doing proper stretching, breathing correctly, having correct posture in whatever you are doing, not laying down or sitting right after exercise, not taking steroids, that kind of thing.

Edited April 24, 2024 by Applegarden8

[fopylo]

Guys let's stop debating these trash forms of exercise.

The true king of all is CALISTHENICS.

[Carl-Richard]

On 4.4.2024 at 11:23 PM, Schizophonia said:

Btw, I have nothing against homosexuals. In fact, in some cases I can be attracted to certain very specific phenotypes of guys, some people know.

mhh

Okay, I'll stop there.

Mmm, look at this beautiful "homosexual" bursting through his old plateaus (I'm making a joke, but his burning passion and emotional reaction is truly inspiring).

 

Edited June 12, 2024 by Carl-Richard

[integral]

On 2024-03-06 at 9:48 AM, Yousif said:

how does over using a thing makes it live longer ??

the logical answer would be, the more you use something the older it gets the sooner it will die

I’m specifically referring to the heart here,

sure exercise will protect your organs from diseases and make you more functional, this is not my point, get over this point,

 

My point is that the more you exercise the more your heart has to work which means it will age sooner than it should which means you’ll die age and die sooner.
 

there is no such a thing is reverse aging or making something work harder to live longer, this notion is not logical.

The logic is correct if you overwork it it ages faster but also if you under work it it ages faster, so you have to work it at a healthy level the way it was designed.

People don’t know where their limit is and how do you know if you cross the line into the overworked domain?

The system is built to work and it is in disfunction if it works too little or if it works too much.

if we somehow isolate the heart in a jar and just pump it non stop Will it age faster? Probably, maybe,  maybe not let’s experiment.

But you can definitely reverse ageing in the human body including the heart as long as the heart is still attached to the system.

how hard something is working is relative if you’re comatose in a bed Then your heart is not working very much but if you’re exercising very slightly then you’re working 10 times harder compared to the comatose person, In this relative situation working harder equals longevity.

So at the very least your logic doesn’t take into account relativity and is trying very hard to overgeneralize and reduce everything, ignore context ignore all systems and is attempting to conquer the universe with a general rule that applies with no exceptions.

Edited June 13, 2024 by integral

[integral]

On 2024-03-06 at 0:05 PM, Yousif said:

If you look at it purely logically, you’ll soon realize it doesn’t make any logical sense, our logic tells us the more we use something the faster it gets old or die.

Logic has anything to do with this statement. It’s not about logic it’s about you have a premise that the more something works the more it ages.

The issue with this is “what is work?” is gravity holding your body down a type of work a type of stress on your system? is that work bad or good? This is the main issues some work is good and some work is bad. Some stressors are good some stresses are bad. So the logical mistake is all work = bad. While in practice in the real world some stressors are good for you and a necessity and some stressors are not and contribute to age.

So now you need to revise the logic to remove that assumption.

Edited June 13, 2024 by integral

[Schizophonia]

6 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Mmm, look at this beautiful "homosexual" bursting through his old plateaus (I'm making a joke, but his burning passion and emotional reaction is truly inspiring).

 

It’s cool for him

[wesyasz]

Your way of thinking is just so utterly stupid, you don't realize it yet. There is no patterning and atoms are not ultimate reality, there is no absolute way to find a pattern to the universe, it's way more intelligent than that. Therefore comparing body to a mechanical human made object is just so reductive it's sad to see you think this way of your body. There is no point wasting time to even try to explain, open your mind first a little and realize that longevity comes from love and joy, just as everything meaningful in existence, and the other way round, not from calculating. Body is meant to live, without living there is no joy, healthy and aligned exercise brings aliveness, to put it overly simply.

[Carl-Richard]

6 hours ago, wesyasz said:

There is no patterning and atoms are not ultimate reality, there is no absolute way to find a pattern to the universe, it's way more intelligent than that.

We're not talking about absolutes, are we?

Edited June 13, 2024 by Carl-Richard