GENOCIDE : more children killed in 3 weeks in Gaza than annual world total

[Loveeee]

Of the past 3 years, according to the global charity Save the Children

Now 3800, and counting 

This isn't your typical war, it's not even a war, it's a genocide 

Yes GENOCIDE, don't be scared of the word, the UN isn't, as shown in this article published on their website today

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly

Edited November 3, 2023 by Loveeee

[HMD]

Israel is being brutal, and the world is watching it happen. Tragically, these conflicts require complex resolutions, and most folks in that region are incapable of that. Things didn’t have to go down this way, but they did. God works in mysterious ways, man. 

But I am predicting that Israel is going to fall sooner or later. They have been shooting themselves from the start, and now the boil is reaching its head. 

Edited November 3, 2023 by HMD

[Leo Gura]

Not genocide but war crimes/collective punishment -- yes.

[StarStruck]

Any other country who would do this would be sanctioned 

[DawnC]

An absurd notion. Repeating a word with bold and underline doesn't make it better in describing reality. What's going on with everyone? Aren't you even concerned with finding out what is really going on? 

The UN is an insult to civilized society. It is a place where countries like Syria and Iran get to vote on matters of human rights. Due to the states that constitute it, any vote or document they bring cannot be taken seriously. Do you think that Iranian/Russian officials would hesitate to say that Israel is committing genocide even when it is absurd?

[Loveeee]

@Leo Gura @DawnC Where do you think this is going ? Clearly a genocide in the making 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly

Edited November 3, 2023 by Loveeee

[eos_nyxia]

Well, it looks like the gloves and pretense of civility have finally come off.

It's in these moments of crises where people feel threatened that you see an essential aspect of what people are truly made of and what they value. Or at the very least, what they're willing to excuse, and what they really call truth -- their bottom line.

 

[eos_nyxia]

3 hours ago, HMD said:

Israel is being brutal, and the world is watching it happen. Tragically, these conflicts require complex resolutions, and most folks in that region are incapable of that. Things didn’t have to go down this way, but they did. God works in mysterious ways, man. 

But I am predicting that Israel is going to fall sooner or later. They have been shooting themselves from the start, and now the boil is reaching its head. 

I don't think they need people (or countries, or institutions) against them to dig a hole for themselves at this point. Even if many are helping them and justify their actions near-unconditionally. They'll do it themselves. Their cultural psyche will be their downfall.

So I guess I'm going to just sit around here and watch it happen.

[Loveeee]

42 minutes ago, Nabd said:

Russia and Iran did far worse in Syria but no one sanctioned them and that's where Israel took their greenlight from.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_civil_war

25,000 children killed in 10 years in Syria

5,000 children killed in 1 month in Gaza

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[DawnC]

1 hour ago, Loveeee said:

@Leo Gura @DawnC Where do you think this is going ? Clearly a genocide in the making 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly

I don't think you misunderstand what genocide is. It is your perception of what is really going on that is distorted. I will give you just a few examples:

The numbers you are taking seriously originate from Hamas (which had no problem lying to you about the hospital bombing). You don't take into account the fact that Hamas uses teenagers as militants and later regards them as children casualties. You forget that there are hundreds of misfired rockets, like the one fired at the hospital.

From a strategic perspective, you misunderstand the fact that Hamas has a strategic goal of having the most children casualties possible and doesn't place much value on children's lives, while Israel is genuinely concerned about their image as they need European and US support. So, even if they were to desire such actions, they are aware that it would be a major strategic mistake. You also fail to consider the fact that Hamas uses children as human shields to protect its militants when they are targeting civilians (for example, shooting rockets from schools or civilian houses) and that is a very difficult situation to deal with militarily.

You totally misunderstand Israeli society, academia, and the like, which would never allow for such a thing to happen. Basically, although they might be less careful about civilian casualties than in the past or as you would want them to be, Israel doesn't target civilians for the sole purpose of intentionally killing them. Definitely not systematically.

Edited November 3, 2023 by DawnC

[HMD]

47 minutes ago, eos_nyxia said:

Even if many are helping them and justify their actions near-unconditionally. They'll do it themselves.

That's the fool-proof trap of devilry. No matter how well you justify it with “facts” and “reasonable arguments”, it ultimately consumes itself.

You can say that morality is relative and all of that, but when thousands upon thousands of innocent lives get butchered, we learn why a central ethic in society is crucial. 

Edited November 3, 2023 by HMD

[HMD]

6 minutes ago, DawnC said:

. Basically, although they might be less careful about civilian casualties than in the past or as you would want them to be, Israel doesn't target civilians for the sole purpose of intentionally killing them.

You make me sick! 

[Loveeee]

@DawnC At any rate I have nothing against Israelis (on the contrary) , only governments, across space and time

Edited November 3, 2023 by Loveeee

[DawnC]

4 minutes ago, HMD said:

You make me sick! 

It's good to have compassion for suffering, but a moral stance should be grounded in a realistic understanding of what is going on.

[Vrubel]

Hamas is responsible for this war, they choose this. They throw their own civilians under the bus because they are dogs that think, live and die like dogs. I don't have a "Western" attitude in this regard, I am more like: you started this, you will be crushed without mercy and hesitation. Guess that's my Russian part. And boy are the Palestinians lucky Israelis are not Russians.

[Loveeee]

8 minutes ago, Vrubel said:

Hamas is responsible for this war

But who is responsible for Hamas 

Edited November 3, 2023 by Loveeee

[DawnC]

1 minute ago, Loveeee said:

But who is responsible for Hamas 

Israel does bear some responsibility. But the major part of it lies with the Palestinian society. If you trace back to the beginning of this conflict and examine the leadership their society supported (it begins with Amin al Husseini) and their irresponsible decisions, it becomes evident. Take a look also at their educational system. Don't solely base your judgment on the current power imbalance. 

[itsadistraction]

7 hours ago, Loveeee said:

Of the past 3 years, according to the global charity Save the Children

Now 3800, and counting 

This isn't your typical war, it's not even a war, it's a genocide 

Yes GENOCIDE, don't be scared of the word, the UN isn't, as shown in this article published on their website today

We are all children. War is childish. War is a game waged by childish men low on SD stages. 

[Loveeee]

2 hours ago, DawnC said:

If you trace back to the beginning of this conflict

(According to ChatGPT)

The 1948 Arab-Israeli War ensued when Israel declared independence despite the Arab rejection of the partition plan, which was mainly due to : 

▪︎ Opposition to the Establishment of Israel : The Arab states, along with the Palestinian Arab leadership, opposed the establishment of a Jewish state in what they considered to be Arab-majority territory. They viewed the partition plan as unfair and illegitimate.

▪︎ Concerns About Displacement : The plan would have led to the displacement of Arab Palestinians from areas designated for a Jewish state. Arab leaders were concerned about the fate of Palestinian Arabs who would become refugees in the process.

[Lila9]

In the meantime, Hamas is bombing Israel non-stop and targeting hospitals in Israel.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzJcxoyokyW/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==