Smoked a pack of cigarettes in a single night

[Yimpa]

The love was there all along. And still is.

When we allow our expectations to be broken, we also allow a more expansive form of love to present itself.

[Yimpa]

5 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

@Javfly33 Why did you get so attached from the first date? 

Why not?

Love ultimately doesn’t have a rule book.

[Raze]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

I would add: When a girl is into you, you know it.
You'll see it clearly in her behavior, or you'll know it from word of mouth because she'll tell all her friends about "the guy she met" while laughing, etc. etc.
Otherwise, she may be nice to you at first, and once she understands that you are into her, she will become much more curt and "avoidant" to make it clear that it's no.

You don't have to be a people genius to know this, but the sooner you accept it, the more you can focus on girls who actually show you signs of interest, rather than desperately chasing girls who do not want you out of pride, to step on a rake and suffer again and again, then come cry on the forum.

wrong, women can often fake interest or hide interest in their behavior.

[Javfly33]

55 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

@Javfly33

*cough* ignore the troll *cough*

Just don't ignore me.

?

[Sincerity]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Why would you want to go out with a girl like that, are you that desperate?

Unwarranted interrogating people in the mental health subforum will not be tolerated.

[Yimpa]

27 minutes ago, Raze said:

women can often fake interest or hide interest in their behavior.

That’s a feature, not a bug.

[Thought Art]

@Javfly33 hmm, I wonder what’s up there… 

What emotions did you feel throughout and at the end of the interaction?

Edited September 14, 2023 by Thought Art

[Javfly33]

7 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@Javfly33 hmm, I wonder what’s up there… 

What emotions did you feel throughout and at the end of the interaction?

Not much because I got high before the interaction. Big fucking mistake... I´m so clear right now im going to be completely sober in each interaction.

(Although at the end of the date I wasn't that high anymore and I started again to feel this humiliation and inferiority shit, although I wasn't conscious about ---> the issue about of drugs).

@Thought Art Anyways, after this horrific couple of days I´m pretty clear at this point that all it boils down is a pain in the stomach/third charka. Yesterday I went out socialising to a bar completely sober and for the first time I did not feel shame or fear, I just surrendered the pain of not being loved that I have in the stomach, and it seems I didn't have a lot of fear anymore. 

I think I have broken through. I think I just have to surrender to that pain, become conformable with it, express me through it, so I can release it slowly. 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Javfly33

[Javfly33]

I feel this failed date was a blessing in disguise. ?I'm not scared of the pain anymore ??????

[Thought Art]

@Javfly33 Each aspect of relating with women, the good and the bad is the prize. But, also when you get the girl it’s gonna feel so good!

Good self observation and good that you have continued to take action. I think a big part of dealing with rejection is simply moving forward. I was also dealing with rejection pain this week and it was rather intense. But, I am grateful for it. I’ve been learning more about female psychology and attraction because of it. My lesson for this particular interaction was “the dumber you act the easier it is to get laid”, and simply to have fun. I got rejected because I broke the fun player frame and was intellectual and a big self conscious and she blew me out. Even after having sex multiple times.  I didn’t realize women don’t hold your status as static and they always judge your behaviour and state and one bad interaction can blow you out! But, we learn through this direct experience. Definitely an ouch!

I know I need and I am committed to gaining massive social experience. I’m figuring out how to move to Montreal, and going out 3 nights a week. I’ve decided that relationships and sex for me are foundational for the rest of my life. 

 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Thought Art

[Buck Edwards]

@Javfly33 this is a hardcore lesson for you. First off, be strict with yourself. This might sound preachy but this is for your good. Do not have the construct - "I want her to love me." you already set yourself for disappointment that way. Rather be inquisitive. Observe the other person. See what they do. Don't get emotional and don't react. The person needs to be engaging substantial behavior for you to feel loved. Don't let them just throw bread crumbs at you. In this situation, it seems like she was testing you and you fell for it. Her asking you for a kiss is repulsive if she doesn't really love you, that's an insincere person who is just playing games. 

Try being aware of your emotions and don't invest so early on. Let the other come to you. Of course you have to keep the discussion positive yet reserved. Don't let emotions show. If a person is interested they would want to keep meeting up and wait for you to escalate. 

Love is a deep emotion felt in action. It's a sentimental emotion. The person who loves you will not wait to show affection. They will show you the highest empathy. 

Let a person be worthy of your affections. Only then you'll let in the right people in your life. 

[Bazooka Jesus]

6 hours ago, Thought Art said:

“the dumber you act the easier it is to get laid”

That right there is wisdom for the ages.

[Javfly33]

@Thought Art @Buck Edwards I'm having crazy anxiety right now can someone PM me 

[Thought Art]

@Javfly33 pmd you

[Schizophonia]

@Javfly33

There was no insult in my message.
You were just overwhelmed by the energy of my message, because I spoke to you like a man and you and the others (including the moderator who took the opportunity to give me an abusive sanction) are too used to being reassured, that we will put a little bandage on your little sore etc etc and this in the greatest unproductivity, in the greatest apragmatism.
I had to overcome a phenomenal amount of stress throughout my childhood and to a lesser extent my adolescence, perpetual tide rats of stress and despair for x or y reason. If I was saved, it was thanks to this ultra radical pragmatism, because I agreed to put my head in my poop, and nothing else.

It's up to you if you want to listen to guys who have never had to solve real problems in their life and will brush you off in the wrong direction (because it's their usual strategy to protect their ego) and then whine when we puts you in front of your own stupidity, or if you want to listen to people with real life experience and push yourself to be an accomplished man, and ultimately capture and observe your own stupidity, your own denial, and by extension your existential fears.
In the meantime, time passes, and you are still at the point of tormenting yourself over an event as trivial as a random girl who didn't try to see you again after an evening where she had fun kissing you.
If this is already enough to knock you out, then what about much more serious events that will happen in the future? The death of your parents? The onset of an autoimmune disease? An incident ?

Do what you want, but me in the meantime...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa4wM4BsZ_Q

[Javfly33]

@Schizophonia @Thought Art @Buck EdwardsEdwardsEdEwaEdwardsEdEdwardsEdwardsEdEwaErds

Sorry can't unquote.

@Schizophonia Dude are you just envious that she was attracted to me or what. Don't try to project your negativity by saying she was "having fun kissing me" lmao, as if that is a bad thing. In the first date when I actually was going to kiss her for the last time he tried to kiss me and I teased her and said to her "oh, no i only wanted in the cheek" when you do that kind of cool shit we can talk about women

[Schizophonia]

@Javfly33

I forgot to ask the most interesting question in the case, I forgot to ask the most interesting question in the matter, the real question that everyone is asking. ?

 

 

 

 

What brand of cigarette? 

[Javfly33]

6 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

@Javfly33

I forgot to ask the most interesting question in the case, I forgot to ask the most interesting question in the matter, the real question that everyone is asking. ?

 

 

 

 

What brand of cigarette? 

haha lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_(cigarette) 

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

haha lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_(cigarette) 

Oh I didn't know, what's the taste like?
At the moment my favorites are the camel essentials.

But think I'll leave the cigarettes and switch to cigars from time to time. 

[Javfly33]

16 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Oh I didn't know, what's the taste like?
At the moment my favorites are the camel essentials.

But think I'll leave the cigarettes and switch to cigars from time to time. 

The taste is not very pronounced, they just feel like smoke lol

I like them because they burn way slower than the Marlboros or camel, so they last longer

Yeah definitely cigars is a step up. Not such a compulsive habit as cigarettes and just make you look cool lol

Edited September 22, 2023 by Javfly33