Is there a model like Spiral Dynamics but for the different stages of enlightenment?

[ItsNick]

Leo be like:

[Princess Arabia]

7 hours ago, Sidra khan said:

@Princess Arabia If your Leo hadn't posted in this thread would you still have responded to bazeras post?   , (Don't speak the truth )

My Leo? ? Leo doesn't pay me any mind when I'm being silly and flirtatious. I guess you saw my "ecstatic" comments to Davecraw when I was being silly. I had to come up with something for his silly questions. Leo isn't mine, remember, I AM Leo.

[Yimpa]

4 hours ago, lostingenosmaze said:

There's other human maps of Awakening other than your own? Pretty sure you're the only one pushing the Awakening movement, especially the Alien part.

From a certain point of view it appears that way. Very convincing, huh?

[VoidJumper]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It only takes me a week to cringe at each new video.

The rate of your self-cringe is the rate of your development. Seriously.

You guys actually believe I am so special and good? Fools you are. I see my own foolishness a thousand times better than you.

That is precisely the problem with teaching before you are done. 

Aren't you doing people a disservice by providing them with subpar information?

[Yimpa]

3 minutes ago, VoidJumper said:

That is precisely the problem with teaching before you are done. 

Aren't you doing people a disservice by providing them with subpar information?

Watch your own bias. Done with what?

Also, if you want to expand this concept further, is what’s being taught in university subpar information? 

[Leo Gura]

19 minutes ago, VoidJumper said:

That is precisely the problem with teaching before you are done. 

Aren't you doing people a disservice by providing them with subpar information?

I am providing better information than 99% of teachers on YT. It would be a disservice to not make any videos for 10 years while I seek being "done".

Edited June 29, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

33 minutes ago, VoidJumper said:

 

33 minutes ago, VoidJumper said:

 

6 hours ago, Davino said:

 

 

 

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Sidra khan said:

I don't call it silly it's amusing,  I know you from one of your famous comment under Leo's video, got interested in you and following you since then ♥️ your flirt encourages me to flirt too? hopefully other girls don't follow that path or Leo will make new strict rules ? 

I might start flirting with you too, if you keep this up, then he'll really be making some strict rules then we'll both be screwed.?

[Sandhu]

@Leo Gura You have some cult following going on here. You vilify scepticism and that seems to benefit you. People are getting locked in the ideas and path of spirituality that you present to them. It's because you portray yourself as all knowing guru. You make radical statements such as above that implies only you know the ultimate Truth. People are following you on faith. When someone raise question he is turned down because you respond to them as if they are not intelligent enough.

The point is that even if you are on the right path, teaching the right stuff you are making them your cult followers or at least dumb followers. 

[Yimpa]

@Sandhu I used to make the mistake of following Leo solely. However, I’ve come to realize that that was an armature mistake. 

It is your responsibility to see through your own delusions. No one else will do it for you, not even Leo. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Sandhu said:

@Leo Gura You have some cult following going on here. You vilify scepticism and that seems to benefit you. People are getting locked in the ideas and path of spirituality that you present to them. It's because you portray yourself as all knowing guru. You make radical statements such as above that implies only you know the ultimate Truth. People are following you on faith. When someone raise question he is turned down because you respond to them as if they are not intelligent enough.

The point is that even if you are on the right path, teaching the right stuff you are making them your cult followers or at least dumb followers. 

I like your profile pic. Pretty cool. I used to have a pic like that on my wall years ago, reminds me of it. Stop calling people dumb, you're insulting the same forum you're engaging in. Its systematic. The cult thing is getting old, pic something else original. Don't be a sheep. Come up with your own adjective. Your name means "holy person". You're not setting a good example by calling people dumb. 

[Yimpa]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You're not setting a good example by calling people dumb. 

Ironically, it is, because people are precisely dumb. 

[Sandhu]

@Yimpa I'm certainly aware of that. I was just saying that doesn't he has the responsibility to clarify Why and on what bases he makes such blunt statements. Actually such radical teachings impress people easily and they can easily locked in.

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

@Sandhu I used to make the mistake of following Leo solely. However, I’ve come to realize that that was an armature mistake. 

It is your responsibility to see through your own delusions. No one else will do it for you, not even Leo. 

Thankfully I never made that mistake. I used to follow my mind, now I'm learning to follow my heart and to surrender to where it leads. This forum is one example; and, because I know God makes no mistakes, I have no complaints because that would be foolish.

[Sandhu]

@Princess Arabia countering my complaint with no valid argument. You are Princess 

[Ajax]

5 minutes ago, Sandhu said:

@Yimpa I'm certainly aware of that. I was just saying that doesn't he has the responsibility to clarify Why and on what bases he makes such blunt statements. Actually such radical teachings impress people easily and they can easily locked in.

hahahahahahahahahaha ha ha ha...

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Ironically, it is, because people are precisely dumb. 

People are where they're at. It is part of the Divine. Everything is divine. If that's called dumb, then so be it. Can't know smart unless you're familiar with dumb, so be thankful some are dumb for you to illuminate your smartness. It is only because of the darkness why the light can shine. Different sides to the same coin. It's called duality. 

[Yimpa]

6 minutes ago, Sandhu said:

I'm certainly aware of that. I was just saying that doesn't he has the responsibility to clarify Why and on what bases he makes such blunt statements. Actually such radical teachings impress people easily and they can easily locked in.

Going off one of my precious examples (i.e. the academic structure), notice how no student dares question anything that is being taught to the professor. Otherwise, they would be kicked out. 

There is a difference between calling out a system in immature ways, and calling it out in wise ways. 

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

People are where they're at. It is part of the Divine. Everything is divine. If that's called dumb, then so be it. Can't know smart unless you're familiar with dumb, so be thankful some are dumb for you to illuminate your smartness. It is only because of the darkness why the light can shine. Different sides to the same coin. It's called duality. 

I realize that I am dumb, but I don’t assign it the conventional meaning. 

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Yimpa said:

Going off one of my precious examples (i.e. the academic structure), notice how no student dares question anything that is being taught to the professor. Otherwise, they would be kicked out. 

There is a difference between calling out a system in immature ways, and calling it out in wise ways. 

I realize that I am dumb, but I don’t assign it the conventional meaning. 

What you say after I AM you become. Be careful with your language.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Sidra khan said:

I'm 100 % sure you have not watched even 5 percent of his total videos , if you simply start watching him all of your doubts will be cleared. Don't believe on everything what his critics say about him. Do some hard work 

His doubts aren't coming from his lack of watching Leo's videos, they're coming from his own mind. Thats why he's here, trying to fight his own self-doubt.