Many People Who Are Fighting Absolute Solipsism Do Not Even Know What It Is

[UnbornTao]

16 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

Like the last statement. Simple and clear 

Sure.

[UnbornTao]

On 9/5/2025 at 10:08 PM, theleelajoker said:

Like the last statement. Simple and clear 

But in your experience is the distinction that there is not-you and that is very real for you. The goal then is to experience what you and not-you really are—and for that matter what experience is—not conclude any philosophy is the answer.

[Ishanga]

On 9/5/2025 at 5:19 PM, Sugarcoat said:

Damn why all my favorite users be leaving the forum

Maybe it’s a sign for me

🤣

 

take it, your obsessed with this place obviously, it will hinder Your Spirituality!

[Sugarcoat]

4 hours ago, Ishanga said:

take it, your obsessed with this place obviously, it will hinder Your Spirituality!

It’s a form of socialization although not up to par with real life socialization

I am more detached from socialization than most

Edited Sunday at 07:33 PM by Sugarcoat

[Natasha Tori Maru]

8 hours ago, Ishanga said:

take it, your obsessed with this place obviously, it will hinder Your Spirituality!

It might be helpful to recognise we do not always know what is best for others

 

[UnbornTao]

How are you? 

Perfect, thank you. I’m traveling incognito. 

Oh? As what are you disguised? 

I am disguised as myself. 

Don’t be silly. That’s no disguise. That’s what you are. 

On the contrary, it must be a very good disguise, 

for I see it has fooled you completely. 

- Nasrudin

[Inliytened1]

On 9/5/2025 at 4:43 AM, Someone here said:

Solipsism is weird . It says I'm the only one.  But how could I be the only one if there are no others?😵‍💫

it just means you are Absolute.

Another way of saying You are God.

[Carl-Richard]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

it just means you are Absolute.

It also means "only your bedroom exists" @Razard86

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

it just means you are Absolute.

Another way of saying You are God.

Sure. But you didn't fully grasp the total depth of what was said ..

If there are no others ..how could I be the only real one when there are no others to contrast between me and others ?

Please Try to understand I'm being serious here .

If others don't exist..I cannot be the only one 😂.  Dig that ?

Take few minutes to contemplate it .

Edited 23 hours ago by Someone here

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

It also means "only your bedroom exists" @Razard86

My edit to the last post was - another way of saying You are God (as the Absolute not the ego)

Thus, if you are God, then there can be nothing outside of you - as God is Infinite.  

Anything outside of your "sovereignty" would not make you Absolute.  So what exists is what is held within God's Consicousness, and God's Mind.  If you are sitting in a room then what exists is the room - that is what is being currently held within God's Mind.  If you think about your girlfriend, then she now exists.  If you imagine a unicorn, the unicorn exists.  But does it have an existence outside of what is held in God's Consciousness?  No.  So from that perspective @Razard86 is not incorrect he just fails to explain the details.

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

It also means "only your bedroom exists" @Razard86

I think i realized something essential In the solipsism inquiry . What does it mean for something to "exist " ? You make fun of the notion that whatever is being perceived right now right here is said to be the only thing that "exists ". 

Wherever you are right now ..I hope you are in your bedroom or a closed room between four walls...go ahead and try for million years  to have certain knowledge instead of beliefs that other rooms in your house "exist ".

What "exists"?

[Carl-Richard]

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

My edit to the last post was - another way of saying You are God (as the Absolute not the ego)

Thus, if you are God, then there can be nothing outside of you - as God is Infinite.  

Anything outside of your "sovereignty" would not make you Absolute.  So what exists is what is held within God's Consicousness, and God's Mind.  If you are sitting in a room then what exists is the room - that is what is being currently held within God's Mind.

You are not sitting in a room. That's a conceptual projection. "Room" is a conceptual projection. "Currently" is a conceptual projection. Show me a room, show me a you, show me a "currently". You can't. They are conceptual projections.

One thing Zen and Osho got right: people are retarded, don't put so much focus on words, instead hit them with a stick or dead silence.

Edited 23 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Sure. But you didn't fully grasp the total depth of what was said ..

If there are no others ..how could I be the only real one when there are no others to contrast between me and others ?

Please Try to understand I'm being serious here .

If others don't exist..I cannot be the only one 😂.  Dig that ?

Take few minutes to contemplate it .

I didn't say you were the "only" one, i said you were Absolute.  The Absolute is the collapse of the duality of the self and other.  Now, Solipsism as a philosophy is just a pointer to the Absolute, but it is a very good pointer.  It is no different then saying its Oneness.  We aren't talking about the dualistic concept of "one" here, as in "one" vs "two" we are talking Absolute Oneness.  

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

You are not sitting in a room. That's a conceptual projection. "Room" is a conceptual projection. "Currently" is a conceptual projection. Show me a room, show me a you, show me a "currently". You can't. They are constructions.

One thing Zen and Osho got right: people are retarded, don't put so much focus on words, instead hit them with a stick or dead silence.

Of course from the Absolute sense you aren't - but when I say what is being held in God's Mind i mean what is being "dreamed up" by God.   So yeah, from an Absolute "perspective" - here you cannot even say there are perspectives - you can say that the room doesn't exist either, only Consciousness exists, or God, or Existence, or Reality.  Or whatever you want to try and capture it with using language.  the I am

 

[Ishanga]

22 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

It might be helpful to recognise we do not always know what is best for others

 

He's on here for hours a day everyday, as are others, its not healthy being online for hours a day that is proven, at the least this place is not so dangerous compared to other parts of the internet, at least he is super curious about Consciousness and other things Spiritual, but in the end he won't find any answers here, just more questions upon questions until he is old and on his death bed, getting him nowhere, don't have to be a genius to see that!

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

Of course from the Absolute sense you aren't - but when I say what is being held in God's Mind i mean what is being "dreamed up" by God.   So yeah, from an Absolute "perspective" - here you cannot even say there are perspectives - you can say that the room doesn't exist either, only Consciousness exists, or God, or Existence, or Reality.  Or whatever you want to try and capture it with using language.  the I am

Or just stop playing defense for a psychotic team. If you treat solipsism and the absolute as identical, don't let other supposed solipsists get away with "only your bedroom exists".

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I didn't say you were the "only" one, i said you were Absolute.  The Absolute is the collapse of the duality of the self and other.  Now, Solipsism as a philosophy is just a pointer to the Absolute, but it is a very good pointer.  It is no different then saying its Oneness.  We aren't talking about the dualistic concept of "one" here, as in "one" vs "two" we are talking Absolute Oneness.  

You know what ..something I realized when I was 5 years old that whatever reality is or whatever existence is or whatever the nature of existence is..it's not found in words ..statements..arguments..philosophy..spirituality..sciences..religion..this ..that..the other ..what ifs and what should not and everything and anything in between. 

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Or just stop playing defense for a psychotic team. If you treat solipsism and the absolute as identical, don't let other supposed solipsists get away with "only your bedroom exists".

I see the subtle distinction you are making.  I've noticed it too.  But also notice that you can see the relative and the Absolute as identical as well, as they are, because they're one.  It's just that the average bear doesn't really grasp this, so that's why when someone talks about Solipsism it can be so gosh darn confusing for them.  They haven't even come full circle to realize that the relative and the Absolute are one thing, and thus you can talk freely about it like that.  Or that the form and the formless are one.  Same idea.

Edited 23 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Someone here]

10 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

He's on here for hours a day everyday, as are others, its not healthy being online for hours a day that is proven, at the least this place is not so dangerous compared to other parts of the internet, at least he is super curious about Consciousness and other things Spiritual, but in the end he won't find any answers here, just more questions upon questions until he is old and on his death bed, getting him nowhere, don't have to be a genius to see that!

Ok man you don't need to repeat yourself all the time . Literally every other post of yours "people have 10k posts and wasting their lives on this forum .please kids go have a life " . Its like OK dude we get it .everyone is free to invest their time and energy in whatever they want .two questions to you : why does that bother you ? And why are you posting here? 

P.s Sugarcoat is a she not a he .

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Ok man you don't need to repeat yourself all the time . Literally every other post of yours "people have 10k posts and wasting their lives on this forum .please kids go have a life " . Its like OK dude we get it .everyone is free to invest their time and energy in whatever they want .two questions to you : why does that bother you ? And why are you posting here? 

P.s Sugarcoat is a she not a he .

I post here because like others I have no one else to discuss this sort of topic with..I post less and participate less because the answers are not here for sure, but its entertaining to see the drama here when we are supposed to be searching for truth and not drama..

I care because in my perception Sugarcoat has a real attraction or desire to know truth, as do many of Us here, and in my experience after lots of trial and error i know finding the answers via logic or intellect won't work, its only entertainment (or socializing as she said).. I want to help those that are on a true path towards truth so I responded, plain and simple..