Leo, can you talk more about the 2 directions of spiritual work?

[Nahm]

@Judy2

God bless you and your patience in being the only one actually awake in regard to the information & misinformation shared on this thread. ?  
Much love. Angelic. 
So to speak of course. 

@SonataAllegro

There are no shoulds of course, all opinion. Imo you should just ask your questions to Judy. 

[Nahm]

@Judy2

Oh no. Nope. Nope. Nope. 

Thank you!

♥️

[Thought Art]

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

@Judy2

God bless you and your patience in being the only one actually awake in regard to the information & misinformation shared on this thread. ?  
Much love. Angelic. 
So to speak of course. 

@SonataAllegro

There are no shoulds of course, all opinion. Imo you should just ask your questions to Judy. 

with regards to what? My own direct experiences? She is flat out wrong in her interpretation of my post… 

I’ve had mystrical experiences and listed them and then she told me they aren’t direct experiences which is wrong. 

She misunderstood the context of what I’m saying. Then told me they were just concepts and projections without understanding or asking me to clarify anything.

don’t go patting people on the back like that giving one person the all good when you yourself might even be wrong.
 

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by Thought Art

[Nahm]

8 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

with regards to what?

The shared experience of this thread, and nothing more. 

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My own direct experiences?  She is flat out wrong in her interpretation of my post… 

There is no wrong, just opinions. 

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I’ve had mystrical experiences and listed them and then she told me they aren’t direct experiences which is wrong. 

It’s a memory in direct experience, not a thing a you has. Judy is present-presence. 

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She misunderstood the context of what I’m saying. Then told me they were just concepts and projections without understanding or asking me to clarify anything. don’t go patting people on the back like that giving one person the all good when you yourself might even be wrong.

They are just conceptual, memories. Hand fulls of beans. Wrong is a belief. I am myself. 

[Thought Art]

7 minutes ago, Nahm said:

The shared experience of this thread, and nothing more. 

There is no wrong, just opinions. 

It’s a memory in direct experience, not a thing a you has. Judy is present-presence. 

They are just conceptual, memories. Hand fulls of beans. Wrong is a belief. I am myself. 

Alright water everything down.

wrong is a belief, as is your interpretation of the situation, as is hers, as are mine.

water it all down… until it’s meaningless. 
 

She misunderstood my post. I’m learning to just let other people’s interpretations go.

 

I was listing metaphysical insights gained from mystical experience… not projections or whatever she said. 
 

she also said descriptions are not part of the absolute… which is true but also false and dualistic. 
 

On Judy being present tense - actually she’s not. She’s sitting at a computer somewhere imagining she’s interpreting symbols on a forum properly projecting she understood my points. That was not truly being or grocking anything.

 

nothing about the forum is really accurate, or present tense. It’s all mostly projection to a certain extent. So what she’s saying is obvious. 
 

your implicitly (I think) calling my direct experiences and my memories of those direct experience more false than her reading text on a forum. That makes no sense to me.

Edited December 12, 2021 by Thought Art

[Nahm]

@Thought Art

Check in with Pharrell as to how, what and why Judy minds not what you say, and be like Judy. 

[Thought Art]

1 minute ago, Nahm said:

@Thought Art

Check in with Pharrell as to how, what and why Judy minds not what you say, and be like Judy. 

Lol your not gonna tell me what to do. 
 

Judy is wrong. And so are you.

[Nahm]

@Thought Art

There’s no yous’, in spite of what yous’ say about a you. 

There is no wrong like there is no failure. These are separate self beliefs, never in direct experience. 

Clap along my man, but only if you feel like that’s whatcha wanna do. 

[Thought Art]

11 hours ago, Judy2 said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but what i found is that Leo's list of facets of the Absolute is VERY helpful for the absolute-relative-intersection, meaning it helps you bring the world of form more into alignment with the "highest values".

He is really unique in that and his concepts have helped me immensely.

But God is God, and God is most likely not keeping a list of facets of himself. 

I've never experienced the Godhead, but i strongly assume that it is truly Indescribable and anything you say about it is said too much, too little, and everything inbetween.

It is clear to me that Being can't know itself, as all knowing is actually just Being pretending to look at itself and creating a poor copy in the finite mind.

Understanding is different, for sure. It's more synonymous with Consciousness and Being, so the only way you can fully understand God is by fully Being it. At which point you no longer need labels, concepts or anything of that sort. I mean, i'd be disappointed if you did.

 

@Leo Gura maybe you can tell me what you think of this, I'd really appreciate it.

 

I wasn't describing the absolute nor the God head.

Simply a list of 10 things I personally discovered through my own interpretive process and mystical experiences.

[Thought Art]

3 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@Thought Art

There’s no yous’, in spite of what yous’ say about a you. 

There is no wrong like there is no failure. These are separate self beliefs, never in direct experience. 

Clap along my man, but only if you feel like that’s whatcha wanna do. 

Same to you? if thats what you feel like you gotta do?

Don't play the game you judge the other for play? what?

You want me to be like someone else? That's a little weird. 

I am just saying, she misinterpreted me. Your not gonna tell me other wise. 

I don't give you any authority in this context. 

This whole thing is full of hypocrasy Nahm... which is fine it you gotta do that.

[Nahm]

3 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Same to you? if thats what you feel like you gotta do?

Wanna. Not gotta. Actual freedom. 

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Don't play the game you judge the other for play? what?

You want me to be like someone else? That's a little weird. 

There’s no Judy. Check in with Pharrell again. 

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I am just saying, she misinterpreted me. Your not gonna tell me other wise. 

I am telling you otherwise. 

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I don't give you any authority in this context. 

Now spread that across the entirety of the whole of experience. ?? 

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This whole thing is full of hypocrasy Nahm... which is fine it you gotta do that.

Doesn’t feel like it is. Not a drop. 

[Nahm]

@Judy2

 

It might seem crazy what I'm about to say.
Sunshine she's here, you can take a break.
I'm a hot air balloon that could go to space,
with the air like I don't care, baby, by the way.

(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do.

Here come bad news, talking this and that.
Well, give me all you got, don't hold it back!
I should probably warn you I'll be just fine.
No offense to you,
Don't waste your time,
here's why…

(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do.

Can't nothing bring me down.
My love’s too high to bring me down.
Can't nothing bring me down.

No one knows, really. 
 

[Javfly33]

8 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@Judy2

 

It might seem crazy what I'm about to say.
Sunshine she's here, you can take a break.
I'm a hot air balloon that could go to space,
with the air like I don't care, baby, by the way.

(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do.

Here come bad news, talking this and that.
Well, give me all you got, don't hold it back!
I should probably warn you I'll be just fine.
No offense to you,
Don't waste your time,
here's why…

(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you.
(Because I'm happy)
Clap along if you feel like that's what you wanna do.

Can't nothing bring me down.
My love’s too high to bring me down.
Can't nothing bring me down.

No one knows, really. 
 

offtopic, but its worth it:  This is going to make you smile even more

?

 

Pd: by the way this is a great example of the power of "Energy" : making a rainy gloomy borough of London vibrant for some minutes.

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by Javfly33

[Nahm]

@Javfly33

Excellent! 

[Jakuchu]

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Now the ultimate work begins: becoming the most conscious and loving embodiment of God in the universe

You have some tough competitors. There are probably some god-like aliens chillin' somewhere right now. And you haven't even figured out the right method, yet 

Edited December 12, 2021 by Jakuchu

[Nahm]

@Judy2

You’re hard to add to, but I’ll go with, or a woman. ? 

[Jakuchu]

@Judy2 Almost everything I say has a humoristic undertone to it. My approach to spirituality is very humor dominant. But also I am aware that I could be misusing humor in a passiv-aggressiv way

Edited December 13, 2021 by Jakuchu

[Jakuchu]

7 hours ago, Salvijus said:

It's funny how people who meditate 20min a day, masturbate and watch youtube videos all night and do some drugs occasionally assume that they have a stronger desire to realize the truth then a monk 

You're gonna call me out like that? 

But to be fair, it's around 1hour and 30mins of meditation and I only masturbate every second day

[Raptorsin7]

Just now, Jakuchu said:

You're gonna call me out like that? 

But to be fair, it's around 1hour and 30mins of meditation and I only masturbate every second day

Lol you beat me to it, I was debating whether I should call this guy out for being so personal but dam...

[Jakuchu]

@Raptorsin7 ?

Edited December 12, 2021 by Jakuchu