I'm Elightened since yesterday, AMA

[AcaciaConfusa]

2 minutes ago, Arzack said:

You don't need it to walk from pole to pole to believe the earth is round.

You dont need to walk from pole to pole to know that there is no earth

[Arzack]

Just now, AcaciaConfusa said:

You dont need to walk from pole to pole to know that there is no earth

I don't understand what you mean.

[Nahm]

@Arzack

One who claims enlightenment, is one who claims enlightenment. 

[Shmurda]

@Arzack what I said was too generic because we need to deal with projections on a specific case by case basis?

I thought it was quite specific I gave an example. 

[Arzack]

Just now, Shmurda said:

@Arzack what I said was too generic because we need to deal with projections on a specific case by case basis?

I thought it was quite specific I gave an example. 

Ok so the example was ""i wish i didn't have to do this extra work""

Your assumptions here are:

1) I have to do this extra work"

But if it is "extra", maybe you don't have to do it.

This triggers a fear that if you don't do it something bad will happen.

What's that fear? 

[Arzack]

Just now, dflores321 said:

@Arzack Isnt it better for us to continue our practices and evolve further without attaching labels on what we are?

I really dont know you so there's a good chance you could be at a higher state of consciousness idk, but why limit yourself by saying you reached the finish line when there doesn't seem to be one?

Like I said, there are progressing levels of enlightenment. But if you are not enlightened you can only aim to the first level. You can't go form non-enlightened to second level, it's a step by step process.

The difference is that when you reach first level enlightenment you're more concerned to helping other reaching it too. You don't have any impending desire to reach higher levels. 

The impending desire to reach level one is gonna vanish when you reach first level.

[Ry4n]

5 minutes ago, dflores321 said:

@Arzack Isnt it better for us to continue our practices and evolve further without attaching labels on what we are?

I really dont know you so there's a good chance you could be at a higher state of consciousness idk, but why limit yourself by saying you reached the finish line when there doesn't seem to be one?

Agreed, especially when "enlightenment" has so many different degrees and flavours. It's a useless label. The spectrum is too vast. 

[James123]

4 hours ago, Arzack said:

he mind is at peace and doesn't constantly play a repeating disk of suffering guilty annoying thoughts.

There is no such a thins as mind. 

[Arzack]

Just now, James123 said:

There is no such a thins as mind. 

mind = thoughts

[James123]

1 minute ago, Arzack said:

mind = thoughts

Nope. 

Thoughts = duality. 

[Johnny5]

@Arzack How is a state of samadhi any more true than any other state?

[Arzack]

Just now, Johnny5 said:

@Arzack How is a state of samadhi any more true than any other state?

We are many persons/people. Some are in samadhi, some are not. Both are true. 

[Johnny5]

1 minute ago, Arzack said:

We are many persons/people. Some are in samadhi, some are not. Both are true. 

So what you were looking for was not truth but samadhi?

[Arzack]

Just now, Johnny5 said:

So what you were looking for was not truth but samadhi?

I was looking for a lot of things. Then I started to differentiate what things were better to look for and what were better to not look for.

Truth and samadhi are better than other things, so I looked for both in my path to enlightenment.

[Johnny5]

1 minute ago, Arzack said:

I was looking for a lot of things. Then I started to differentiate what things were better to look for and what were better to not look for.

Truth and samadhi are better than other things, so I looked for both in my path to enlightenment.

Then how is samadhi enlightenment?

[Arzack]

Just now, Johnny5 said:

Then how is samadhi enlightenment?

I don't understand your question, please elaborate it a bit so I can answer.

[Johnny5]

Actually never mind... Enjoy samadhi  ? 

[Arzack]

Just now, Johnny5 said:

Actually never mind... Enjoy samadhi  ? 

samadhi and enlightenment are two words for the same thing

[James123]

Just now, Arzack said:

samadhi and enlightenment are two words for the same thing

Enlightenment, samadhi, being human these are just thoughts. If you never learn, you never born. But just enjoy whatever you are experiencing till no one left to experience anything. Much ❤️ 

[Waken]

jee, what a bunch of bullshit people often sling to each other on this forum lol. It often gets into a back and forth of mental gymnastics, trying to disprove others using a rather arbitrary point of view

Edited September 4, 2020 by Waken