Leo, can you elaborate on the idea that I “imagine” that I had a past?

[Nahm]

2 hours ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Why would you continue dream then? 

To be you. 

[zeroISinfinity]

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

To be you. 

Well my greatest desire is complete annihilation. Doesn't go hand in hand. 

I honestly don't want to exist at all. 

I suffer so much. 

[Nahm]

@zeroISinfinity

It’s unconditionally perfect. The belief you do exist is the suffering. You are under appreciating your sensitivity. You can’t look at the slip & slide anymore, yet can’t not tell them what will happen putting a toe on it. Adjust via less conditions = feeling great = no problems = you’re already doing what you most want to be. Don’t swallow that, barf it. 

[zeroISinfinity]

44 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@zeroISinfinity

It’s unconditionally perfect.

That perfection doesn't really motivate me to dream at all. Yeah sure I know what it means for this dream but there is also no need for it. Life ss much as delusional it is atleast has something to it. But you will realize eventually you lived your whole life for nothing. 

44 minutes ago, Nahm said:

The belief you do exist is the suffering.

I meant not as "self" but I want to be oblivion. Not even love. Not Concious. I will be ok with that. So to be no self pretty darn easy for this guy. But also I can't wait this body to die and this dream to finally evaporate. 

44 minutes ago, Nahm said:

You are under appreciating your sensitivity. You can’t look at the slip & slide anymore, yet can’t not tell them what will happen putting a toe on it. Adjust via less conditions = feeling great = no problems = you’re already doing what you most want to be. Don’t swallow that, barf it. 

Ok. Whatever it has such bittersweet taste to it. 

Atleast when you don't know it's so much easier. LoA, Vibrations blah blah so. Much easier. 

[Nahm]

@zeroISinfinity

?  Alert; who’s looking for motive, need, believing in body & death again.? (authenticity police) 

[zeroISinfinity]

@Nahm Also about feeling great. 

At the end of spiritual work you will find yourself at 0,alone with no distinctions and boundaries btw you and anything else. You will have none of conditions you holds towards anything. No dualistic notions, no in some sense illusion of life. 

Yeah sure you regain absolute power. You become God in sober but even that you will let go off. So. There is real "danger" of mahasamadhi. Seems very natural to you. 

[Nahm]

@zeroISinfinity

You are talking to perception like a drunk youth talking to the wall at a wedding. 

[zeroISinfinity]

10 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@zeroISinfinity

?  Alert; who’s looking for motive, need, believing in body & death again.? (authenticity police) 

We can go that route. There’s no "avatar" and I agree. 

When everything becomes ONE (unified Infinite Love). 

What's left is just my word. That makes this  to be like this and not be black thing. 

Why bother really when it's the same. 

[zeroISinfinity]

11 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@zeroISinfinity

You are talking to perception like a drunk youth talking to the wall at a wedding. 

Just tired. I really am. 

I sound like nutcase, nobody understands what I am talking about, nonsensical and what not. 

Also having difficult times when I ever think about this  too unlike most people who have "social anxiety" and whatever. Not same category of pressure and what mind can use against you in some sense. 

[seeking_brilliance]

@zeroISinfinity you just need a break. Your mind has obsessed over this for too long. You know the way, but the thinking gets in the way. Stop explaining what things are, you never will anyway. Just hang out with us and appreciate your unity. Let it all go-- the need to understand, or that you do understand. No one cares. And I mean that nicely. Its nice that no one cares. Enjoy it. Share insights with us as they arise. 

Edited July 20, 2020 by seeking_brilliance

[Someone here]

@zeroISinfinity @zeroISinfinity so you are dreaming this stuff up and it's bothering you and you wish to stop dreaming?   OK just stop dreaming then.. What's stopping you??   You can turn this movie off In a blink of an eye and since that's "your greatest desire" why you don't just do it?   What are you asking Nahm about?  Wanna die just go die.  

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

The belief you do exist is the suffering. 

You exist tho.. 

[zeroISinfinity]

 

8 minutes ago, seeking_brilliance said:

@zeroISinfinity you just need a break. Your mind has obsessed over this for too long. You know the way, but the thinking gets in the way. Stop explaining what things are, you never will anyway. Just hang out with us and appreciate your unity. Let it all go-- the need to understand, or that you do understand. No one cares. And I mean that nicely. Its nice that no one cares. Enjoy it. 

Thanks. Yes vacation, get it. It's just nostalgy for life and maybe desire for new one nothing else. 

I over do stuff. Well what can I do passionate about thing I love. Can't change that. But problem is I let go of Everything so bit off a struggle. That fine balance. 

So @Nahmcan't avoid Heaven in relative despite not actually being interested in this work and Truth for that reason.

That's why it strikes me and I reject whole thing so hard because of it. 

Edited July 20, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[Nahm]

@Someone here

If you say so. ?

[seeking_brilliance]

@zeroISinfinity its consuming you, and not in a good way. This desire to transcend 'this life' and experience will never satisfy you. You already are nameless. You already are zeroisinfinity.  Just see what happens. Don't ruin it for yourself with obsessive desires for unobtainable outcomes. (are they unobtainable because they are pushed away by thought? Hmmmm...) At the same time don't detest thought and wish it away. Find harmony. 

[Someone here]

@Nahm are you saying that if I stopped Believing that I exist I would literally cease to exist? ... Hmmm let's give it a try and report back.. 

Actually tried it :  didn't work ?. 

@zeroISinfinity funny your name is "zero IS infinity" and yet you are looking for the zero somewhere else from the infinity. 

Edited July 20, 2020 by Someone here

[Nahm]

@Someone here

No.

[mandyjw]

I can tell you the story that I had the best childhood in the entire world or a horrifically awful one without lying to you either time. Your memories and the meaning behind them follow your mood, focus, intentions and what you imagine yourself to be. They are entirely fluid. 

[VeganAwake]

57 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Nahm are you saying that if I stopped Believing that I exist I would literally cease to exist? ... Hmmm let's give it a try and report back.. 

Actually tried it :  didn't work ?. 

 

 Who is 'I' that tried it?.....look closely.

'I' is also a thought...

A thought can't dispel itself of itself when it believes its the thinker of the thoughts.

[VeganAwake]

The separate sense of 'self' cannot conceive of its own unreality, why would it.... it would be like putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger.

That's why it's been called to die before you die

[Danioover9000]

   If thinking the past is imaginary is helping your ego, then ok. Mind you, that's a big if. Most of who you are on the surface is connected to previous events in your life, which shapes your core identity. Reckless deconstruction of this can lead to psychosis that can range from mild forms like annoyance, anger, confusion, depression, all the way to suicidal thinking and full mental breakdown.