Posted July 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nahm said: If that ‘fact’ turned out to be a belief, would the understanding of underlying change a bit? The difference between "belief" and "fact "is relative. And that itself is a relative belief and therefore a relative fact and therefore.. Make whatever you want with it... "life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived " -Osho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, Someone here said: The underlying oneness of existence doesn't change the fact that it appears fragmented and distinct and there is surely others from that relative POV.. Here I am you are talking to me right now for F sake lol. It doesn't appear fragmented anymore. You still have the ability to recognize and differentiate between objects and people, but they are nowhere as solid as they were before. It's all empty and full at the same time. It almost makes you want to punch a wall to see if the wall will suck your hand like a vaccuum. It changes the way you perceive everything. "I should've been a statistic, but decided to go against all odds instead. What if?" - David Goggins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shiva99 said: It doesn't appear fragmented anymore. You still have the ability to recognize and differentiate between objects and people, but they are nowhere as solid as they were before. It's all empty and full at the same time. It almost makes you want to punch a wall to see if the wall will suck your hand like a vaccuum. It changes the way you perceive everything. A tree is a tree is a tree. A bird is a bird is a bird. A=A=A. This is the most common sense logical rule ever.. If we cannot agree on this one we cannot agree on anything else because the very foundations are screwed.. And So the conversation will turn into a meaningless talk about nothing.. And becomes a waste of time aka mental masturbation. "life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived " -Osho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Someone here said: A tree is a tree is a tree. A bird is a bird is a bird. A=A=A. This is the most common sense logical rule ever.. If we cannot agree on this one we cannot agree on anything else because the very foundations are screwed.. And So the conversation will turn into a meaningless talk about nothing.. And becomes a waste of time aka mental masturbation. As long as you see yourself as rather something than nothing, you will see everything else as rather something than nothing. "I should've been a statistic, but decided to go against all odds instead. What if?" - David Goggins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shiva99 said: As long as you see yourself as rather something than nothing, you will see everything else as rather something than nothing. You are taking shit out of context purposely and I'm not gonna play this game lol. Watch Leo's recent episode about perspectives to understand what I'm talking about. "life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived " -Osho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Someone here said: You are taking shit out of context purposely and I'm not gonna play this game lol. Watch Leo's recent episode about perspectives to understand what I'm talking about. I'm not trying to play games at all. Don't see why i would do that. I'm just trying my best to explain the experience, but i'm probably just failing at it. "I should've been a statistic, but decided to go against all odds instead. What if?" - David Goggins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 47 minutes ago, Someone here said: The difference between "belief" and "fact "is relative. And that itself is a relative belief and therefore a relative fact and therefore.. Make whatever you want with it... Relative is a belief. The one given ya all the trouble. MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 Oh boyo here we go again. Time to pull Jack Nicholson but she is not here. What flowers in vase a shotgun. ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Nahm said: Relative is a belief. The one given ya all the trouble. If relative is a belief doesn't that mean belief is relative? ? "life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived " -Osho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 8 hours ago, An young being said: I think he is telling that you are the guy who talks in circles. I don't know if it's true or not. Totally get it.... I assumed the same thing. Wouldn't it be more concerning if someone had a different belief system every other month or so. ? The funny thing is saying the same thing over and over again can sound like someone is stuck in their limited belief system and will not budge. This is why it's so important to look for yourself. If I would have came into this work already thinking I knew the answer(full glass) not really sure what would have happened. One day I heard Adyashanti discuss how enlightenment it's not a gaining, it's a crumbling of way of untruth... See I didn't even know what I was looking for... I just figured if I gained enough knowledge to somehow the gateless gates would be open when and if I arrived. No one enters the gateless gate so be no one. “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 4 hours ago, WaveInTheOcean said: Your unconscious psychological projection onto others is hilarious ???? And that's the experience there... it's perfect whole and complete. ❤ “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, zeroISinfinity said: Half man half horse. ? More like a donkey really. Hahaha...hehe. so glad I didn't miss this ❤ “Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle. "I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 @Someone here No. MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 @Nahm if you say so. "life is not a problem to be solved ..its a mystery to be lived " -Osho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) @Someone here Come home. Freakish feelings. Nobody told me. ?God damn. ? As real as ? Hate enlightenment can't lie@Nahm. Edited July 12, 2020 by zeroISinfinity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 @zeroISinfinity Then stop pretending, and start pretending. Telling you once again my man, ain’t no such thing as serious. MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 36 minutes ago, Nahm said: @zeroISinfinity Then stop pretending, and start pretending. Got this play of words. Telling you once again my man, ain’t no such thing as serious. Yeah I Know. Time to create that Self Realized life. Set up, set up,set up. Getting lost was so fun. Way to nostalgic. Wht a mindfuck. Ok Alone is bliss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 Ok turn everything into Gold. Oh boyo end of exile and humaning. Lol at watching inside as induviduated point of Awareness looking inside of Awareness Mind. So hilarious. ?OMFG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 @zeroISinfinity Hey! Welcome back. Thought appears, doesn’t feel good, let it go. Master that non-mastery. MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, VeganAwake said: Totally get it.... I assumed the same thing. Wouldn't it be more concerning if someone had a different belief system every other month or so. ? The funny thing is saying the same thing over and over again can sound like someone is stuck in their limited belief system and will not budge. This is why it's so important to look for yourself. If I would have came into this work already thinking I knew the answer(full glass) not really sure what would have happened. One day I heard Adyashanti discuss how enlightenment it's not a gaining, it's a crumbling of way of untruth... See I didn't even know what I was looking for... I just figured if I gained enough knowledge to somehow the gateless gates would be open when and if I arrived. No one enters the gateless gate so be no one. How does one be no one ? Can you bite your own teeth? -- “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
