Posted August 1, 2019 @winterknight Not a question, but a probe: tell us something about love, if you please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, Nemo28 said: @winterknight when concentrating on the awareness in which thoughts occur I feel kind of freedom, there is no problem, there's just awareness and it feels good. Should I stay in that awareness? If you can maintain this freedom which feels good while you are doing other things and living life, not just sitting down, yes, you can simply be there. And if a doubt/desire/dissatisfaction comes up, inquire and return to that peace. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, FoxFoxFox said: @winterknight Not a question, but a probe: tell us something about love, if you please. There’s nothing in the abstract to be said about it that’s very useful. The word is used in so many ways. It has cultural meanings, literary meanings, psychological meanings, social meanings, philosophical meanings, spiritual meanings. I could give you a kind of Hallmark quote, something like the ultimate love is just the Self, or something like that, but I’m not sure it’s particularly useful just in the abstract... I guess I could say that from the spiritual point of view, love is still relational, and the truth goes beyond relation. The truth goes beyond love, hate, and indifference. At the same time, love is kind of reflection of the truth of non-duality. But still, not very useful. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2019 @winterknight Thank you for sharing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, winterknight said: If you can maintain this freedom which feels good while you are doing other things and living life, not just sitting down, yes, you can simply be there. And if a doubt/desire/dissatisfaction comes up, inquire and return to that peace. Is That what's enlightenment is about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, Nemo28 said: Is That what's enlightenment is about? It's much closer to what it's about. Enlightenment is really realizing that there is nothing but that, there's never been anything but that. But practicing that leads to that realization. Just now, Keyhole said: Is there a method for remembering to return to this place? I'm extremely forgetful and prone to daydreaming. I have little notes around the house to remind me but I forget that they are there. Sounds like unconscious emotional conflicts that you need to work through. Go get psychoanalysis (a particular form of therapy). Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2019 57 minutes ago, Keyhole said: @winterknight Sounds expensive and not really my thing, thanks though. Well, actually, it need not be expensive at all. But chronic forgetting is certainly a red flag for unresolved emotional issues. Good luck. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2019 @winterknight just being aware on awareness certainly eliminates all the thoughts, and you enter thoughtless state which feels very nice, very interesting. Before I kinda felt like I needed to close my eyes to absorb myself into The Self, but now I can remain as just That, feels great! Thank you winterknight ♥️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Nemo28 said: @winterknight just being aware on awareness certainly eliminates all the thoughts, and you enter thoughtless state which feels very nice, very interesting. Before I kinda felt like I needed to close my eyes to absorb myself into The Self, but now I can remain as just That, feels great! Thank you winterknight ♥️ You're very welcome 6 hours ago, Keyhole said: @winterknight Would ordinary talk therapy be just as useful? I'm on medicare, so my options are more limited. Psychoanalysis is a specific form of talk therapy, and no, other forms generally aren't as useful. Follow these instructions to find an institute (and/or let me know your location and I'll help you find one), contact them, and ask them for a referral. They'll find you someone who will work with your financial situation. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 @winterknight no that i know i know experience is an illusion, I seem to have "awareness" seems be merging with the formless. Meaning "awareness" is now an illusion, its like all there seems to be The best way i can describe this is, if you everything in reality or lets say a fire, and you zoomed into it for infinity, you would eventually see the fire is not what is actually there its empty what i mean is a "no -thing particle" with no height, width, depth, center or outside, inside. but now take out the zooming effect and its just still What can you tell me about my self-inquiry position and where it is at? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Aakash said: @winterknight What can you tell me about my self-inquiry position and where it is at? Your position is that you're addicted to words, ideas, and images. True self-inquiry is about ignoring all of these. If you simply dropped all the words and ideas, all the thoughts, all the cool descriptions... Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) @winterknight I see what you mean, the simple fact i am asking you or trying to confirm it with someone is getting me re-attached to the body and mind, its like i can't ask anybody because that puts me back where i came from. So what do you suggest, just to trust myself? edit: yeah man it makes sense, the very act of trying to name or describe it, is the problem Edited August 2, 2019 by Aakash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Aakash said: @winterknight I see what you mean, the simple fact i am asking you or trying to confirm it with someone is getting me re-attached to the body and mind, its like i can't ask anybody because that puts me back where i came from. So what do you suggest, just to trust myself? edit: yeah man it makes sense, the very act of trying to name or describe it, is the problem I suggest trying to relentlessly turn the mind away from thoughts to the "I" who is aware of them. The very thought "How do I confirm it?" is a thought based on ignorance. The thought "What do you suggest?" is a thought based on ignorance. The question "should I just trust myself?" is a thought based on ignorance. "Am I there yet?" "What is my position?" etc. etc. etc. -- the same. Stop looking for answers. Stop trying to understand. Ignore all thoughts. Take a break from this forum for 30 days -- can you do that? (you've said it many times before but have never been successful) -- and in that time relentlessly focus on the I, ignoring all thoughts, all words, all questions. No matter what comes to mind, ignore it and turn back to the I. Edited August 2, 2019 by winterknight Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) @winterknight Yeah i'm planning on not answering questions or giving insights in the rest of the forum, just asking questions on this thread if i need to. It feels like my when i stop aka stop thinking. I automatically go deeper without my intention too. So i come back, it's probably because of the reason you've suggested above. Alright yeah, i guess it's become pointless to ask you as well. its me being attached to my thoughts as we've said and then attaching meaning. thanks, i will do that. Just going to sit in silence, my mind even though its processing, is still detached to my "awareness" so i guess this will only grow stronger in silence thank you Edited August 2, 2019 by Aakash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 How can I know how to act when it seems like I never had a choice in who I was going to be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Matys said: How can I know how to act when it seems like I never had a choice in who I was going to be? If you ask this question, then the next question you should be asking is: who is the one wondering this? Are you the one who has to know how to act? Engage in self-inquiry; it's the only way to get an answer. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, winterknight said: If you ask this question, then the next question you should be asking is: who is the one wondering this? Are you the one who has to know how to act? Engage in self-inquiry; it's the only way to get an answer. I fear the instability this line of inquiry will bring me, but I see what you mean and I will try. Thank you kindly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 Who is this thinker who thinks himself separate from silence? Ask within, now, and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2019 @winterknight How helpful can it be to simply sit in silence? Not inquiring, not doing anything...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Beginner Mind said: @winterknight How helpful can it be to simply sit in silence? Not inquiring, not doing anything...? Helpful. And if you can then stay in that silence even when you get up and move around and interact — even better. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites