Posted February 10, 2019 okay thanks thats something i can do focus day and night on the "I" and not just let it off passively as i've been doing, alright cool thanks once again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 Problem: Do I exist? Yes, at least I feel like I do Where is the I? Looking, looking, can't find it, get bored, lose motivation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 Just now, Sashaj said: Problem: Do I exist? Yes, at least I feel like I do Where is the I? Looking, looking, can't find it, get bored, lose motivation Who is aware of not being able to find it, getting bored, and losing motivation? Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 @winterknight again I don't know. Where am I supposed to be looking? All I notice are sensations in the body, images in the head, stories that are remembered. I feel like an "I" but cannot locate the origin of the "I" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sashaj said: @winterknight again I don't know. Where am I supposed to be looking? All I notice are sensations in the body, images in the head, stories that are remembered. I feel like an "I" but cannot locate the origin of the "I" Focus on that feeling intensely and don't let it go. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, winterknight said: Focus on that feeling intensely and don't let it go. Focus in the feeling of "I" ness? Is it supposed to be confusing and uncomfortable? Because thats how I feel. Im not sure I can hold it for more than a few seconds! I usually focus on feelings in my stomach as my meditation object but this object is not really an object, so how can I hold something that isn't there? Edited February 11, 2019 by Sashaj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sashaj said: Focus in the feeling of "I" ness? Is it supposed to be confusing and uncomfortable? Because thats how I feel. Im not sure I can hold it for more than a few seconds! I usually focus on feelings in my stomach as my meditation object but this object is not really an object, so how can I hold something that isn't there? Yes, it might be confusing and uncomfortable. "something that isn't there" is just a thought -- and it's not true. You are. It's just that you're not what you think you are. You have the feeling of the I. As long as you feel that you are, focus on that feeling and attempt to hold it. Try and try and try -- with as much effort as you can -- for however long it takes before you get clarity. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, winterknight said: Yes, it might be confusing and uncomfortable. "something that isn't there" is just a thought -- and it's not true. You are. It's just that you're not what you think you are. You have the feeling of the I. As long as you feel that you are, focus on that feeling and attempt to hold it. Try and try and try -- with as much effort as you can -- for however long it takes before you get clarity. it makes me wanna jump of a cliff; am I doing it right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 I just don't know how to "hold a feeling". It seems like a unsolvable puzzle to me... So something is aware of things. That is the "I" I guess. Ah I give up, thanks anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sashaj said: I just don't know how to "hold a feeling". It seems like a unsolvable puzzle to me... So something is aware of things. That is the "I" I guess. Ah I give up, thanks anyway Im curious, why are you trying to hold the "i" feeling? that awareness that "i am" is always there in the background correct? maybe he means bring it to the foreground Edited February 11, 2019 by DrewNows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 @DrewNows I was told to focus on the I and hold it as long as possible Yes, the "I am" feeling is in the background so to speak. I am struggling with the language and how it translates into action ie im not sure what I need to do as there is no object of focus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) @Sashajyes words/concepts are misleading. Only a mind can focus and divide subject and object. What is it exactly you are trying to figure out? The question: Do I exist? if so, can you answer me this: Where is the "i" that is you, which does not exist? Edited February 11, 2019 by DrewNows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DrewNows said: @Sashajyes words/concepts are misleading. Only a mind can focus and divide subject and object. What is it exactly you are trying to figure out? The question: Do I exist? if so, can you answer me this: Where is the "i" that is you, which does not exist? The question is still confusing to me. I can't find an "I". Yet I feel like an "I". But if I tried to describe this I can't, nor can I "hold" this feeling of being me. I don't really know what to do next Edited February 11, 2019 by Sashaj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sashaj said: The question is still confusing to me. I can't find an "I". Yet I feel like an "I". But if I tried to describe this I can't, nor can I "hold" this feeling of being me. I don't really know what to do next If this doesn't appeal to you, the other possibility is to just drop all thoughts. Stop thinking. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 @winterknight is just BE and do nothing are same practice or different? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 Just now, Jkris said: @winterknight is just BE and do nothing are same practice or different? "Just be" means to drop thought. "Do nothing" can be interpreted in many ways. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Sashaj said: The question is still confusing to me. I can't find an "I". Yet I feel like an "I". But if I tried to describe this I can't, nor can I "hold" this feeling of being me. I don't really know what to do next Good but what is the purpose of all this? What exactly are you seeking to accomplish? Edited February 11, 2019 by DrewNows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, winterknight said: If this doesn't appeal to you, the other possibility is to just drop all thoughts. Stop thinking. Well thats even harder. Thanks anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 @DrewNows to drop that i feeling or sense of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jkris said: @DrewNows to drop that i feeling or sense of me. thank you but what purpose does it serve to “hold onto the feeling of i am” if it is simply going to be dropped? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
