Posted August 25, 2018 “Who Chit” ??? @who chit ?? MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nahm said: @Jack River No. ????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 Even if there’s an initial breakthrough or direct insight, there still may be potential ego/thought traps lurking that we need to be mindful of, which is why this forum can be helpful - to be in communication so that we can see-understand-avoid some of these traps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) If I would have started with fear or thought first knstead of always escaping and feeding the loop, I would have been free along time ago. This is why I’m glad I just watched-watch the movement of thought instead reacting. Edited August 25, 2018 by Jack River Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jack River said: If I would have started with fear or thought first knstead of always escaping and feeding the loop, I would have been free along time ago. This is why I’m glad I just watched-watch the movement of thought instead reacting. Exactly. To not seek-escape but to bring passive awareness to the entire nature of this quality of thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 From what I see in this thread this morning, fear has fed itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, robdl said: Exactly. To not seek-escape but to bring passive awareness to the entire nature of this quality of thinking. Yep. Changed my life. Psychological freedom which means to understand this fear and it’s subtly. And then there is awareness to fear. As faceless puts it, if we don’t see danger, we walk right into it. That is totally true dudes Edited August 25, 2018 by Jack River Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 If we are not aware of subtle fear, we don’t know when there is this seeking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Jack River said: Yep. Changed my life. Psychological freedom which means to understand this fear and it’s subtly. And then there is awareness to fear. As faceless puts it, if we don’t see danger, we walk right into it. That is totally true dudes Yeah, psychological freedom meaning to not try to understand fear from the vantage point of self (which is fear itself), but holistic understanding of it, which comes from unconditioned observation, free of the driving influence of memory-experience-knowledge, which is what constitutes the “me.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 Anyway, I’m goin to go lie on my board in the water Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, robdl said: Yeah, psychological freedom meaning to not try to understand fear from the vantage point of self (which is fear itself), but holistic understanding of it, which comes from unconditioned observation, free of the driving influence of memory-experience-knowledge, which is what constitutes the “me.” That’s it brah !! You put it so perfect man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Jack River said: If we are not aware of subtle fear, we don’t know when there is this seeking. 29 minutes ago, robdl said: Yeah, psychological freedom meaning to not try to understand fear from the vantage point of self (which is fear itself), but holistic understanding of it, which comes from unconditioned observation, free of the driving influence of memory-experience-knowledge, which is what constitutes the “me.” Indeed. From what I have seen many are led around by fear, and are unaware of that fact. Fear will manifest itself as other then fear,(disguise itself). Fear is extremely sneaky, cunning, and elusive Edited August 25, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Feel Good said: But you have to keep it up all the time. You don’t do anything, that’s the beauty of it my friend. It will come together. ?? Edited August 25, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Feel Good said: That's a play on words. There is a lot involved in your way of doing this. I bet I can find someone more experienced to teach me Dependence leads to fear. That’s the point. You will see. Freedom first friend. It’s a great idea be free to discuss this with others as well. It’s great that you are willing to talk to others. Again good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Feel Good said: Development of thot. Not developing, holistic understanding. 7 minutes ago, Feel Good said: Not sure what that is, sounds like hard work to me. Plus having to go through hours of your and robdl posts. Mind numbing The funny thing is it only takes as long as fear continues to influence observation. This was fairly simply to me. But I ended this psychological pursuit first, then the holistic understanding and awareness followed and was simple. To me it’s not work, but it does take all ones energy. To me this is all an art. I never came into this with a goal. That implies fear, attachment, reaction. Do what you want my friend, but I have no doubt you will see what I mean. You have to find out for yourself. I wish you the best as well. Edited August 25, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Feel Good said: You want dependence. You encourage it in the people here. To follow your posts and stay in "relationship " with you. I want to live my life, not be chained to a forum arguing with the who chit of the world I agree 1000% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) relationship with the movement of thought-self-fear, and the relationship with others is the best teacher. If we are willing to stay with what is and not evade the fact in ourselves, (as in self image and its projections), then there is actual relationship. Same goes with relationship with others. As long as we form this self image, we project that onto relationship, therefore there is no relationship. It is resistance to commune with what is. Goes for inward relationship with ourselves, and others as well. Relationship reveals what is true, but unless there is freedom without this reaction, that ‘revealing’ will be overlooked, dismissed, distorted. Edited August 25, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, Feel Good said: You got a lot of ideas we should live up to . Development of thot. Not sure what that is, sounds like hard work to me. Plus having to go through hours of your and robdl posts. Mind numbing No argument here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Feel Good said: @Faceless you edited out "do what you want' You're dependent on me aren't you? I can smell it I’m not sure I follow, friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2018 HELLO EVERYBODY, I don’t know what is going on my post... but whatsoever is out of my understanding cuz you seem to be all Highly developed cuz I’m not able to understand what is going on with @Feel Good. @who chit... I read one of the comments saying That Self Development is nothing... Are you making me feel what???? I’m a beginner in such things and you seems to be I don’t know what ! ? ?IngitScooby ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
