Posted June 13, 2018 @Etagnwo @Joseph Maynor Before you criticise @Faceless for being here, remember that he is an important teacher to many of us here. He doesn't do it for his own sake, he does it for us and for the world. @Faceless is my only teacher atm, and he is by far the greatest one. You have to understand his style of teaching though. @Faceless is better then both JP Spears and the Pope imo, which were my two former spiritual teachers online, before I found @Faceless . Isn't it so, yes or no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, MarkusSweden said: @Etagnwo @Joseph Maynor Before you criticise @Faceless for being here, remember that he is an important teacher to many of us here. He doesn't do it for his own sake, he does it for us and for the world. @Faceless is my only teacher atm, and he is by far the greatest one. You have to understand his style of teaching though. @Faceless is better then both JP Spears and the Pope imo, which were my two former spiritual teachers online, before I found @Faceless . I’m not criticizing him for being here. I was trying to figure out why he’s spending so much time on here if he thinks thinking is some kind of a problem. Actually, I’m trying to help him. I like him. I’m trying to get more out of him. Yo, if people don’t understand you, how effective is that? So, I advised him to express himself as if he’s talking to a fourth grader. Great teachers can teach the basics of any subject as if they’re speaking in front of a class of fourth graders. Lemme prove it to you: listen to the American Brian Green on this show explain advanced physics. Edited June 13, 2018 by Joseph Maynor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Anna1 said: So, telling peeps to stop psychological thought without them knowing their true nature isn't going to work. I’m not telling anyone to stop psychological time. That is a movement of psychological time. There is no understanding ones true nature until all such movement ceases. This whole reward system motive is the reasom psychological time does not cease. Edited June 13, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 And thinking is not bad. It has its function. But psychologically it has none. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Faceless said: There is no understanding ones true nature until all such movement ceases. I have to agree! I just don't agree with your method. Like what does this sentence mean- "This whole reward system motive is the realm psychological time does not cease. " Why must you talk like that? “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Anna1 said: I have to agree! I just don't agree with your method. Like what does this sentence mean- "This whole reward system motive is the realm psychological time does not cease. " Why must you talk like that? Exactly. His language is not registering. Faceless — if your language is not making sense to people, you gotta remedy that! Otherwise you’re a rainbow in the dark. Edited June 13, 2018 by Joseph Maynor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Faceless said: And thinking is not bad. It has its function. But psychologically it has none. Please explain this part: ‘But psychologically it has none.’ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Anna1 said: I have to agree! I just don't agree with your method. Like what does this sentence mean- "This whole reward system motive is the realm psychological time does not cease. " Why must you talk like that? 17 minutes ago, Anna1 said: So, telling peeps to stop psychological thought without them knowing their true nature isn't going to work. We only do things that benefit us Psychologically, which is where the very problem arises. The self seeks a reward. Its the movement of this i that prevents one from seeing what is. Edited June 13, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, Etagnwo said: What do you mean, conceptualize being? I’m simply drawing a distinction between meaning and pointing. ‘BE-ing’ is a pointing. We’re not concerned with what conceptual meaning BE-ing has when used in that manner. It’s a pointing term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Etagnwo said: Gobbledygook? That's what faceless teaching is to me. Sorry snick, but you're another arsehole who can't stop talking. You are the anti-embodiment of faceless krishnamurti rip off Well, it must mean something for him. Otherwise why would he be clinging so hard to it and selling it on here. I say, great, break it down so we can all understand it, that’s all. Edited June 13, 2018 by Joseph Maynor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Faceless said: Could there be a totally different approach that does not imply duality? yes there is. a catch-22 Edited June 13, 2018 by now is forever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 @Anna1 Do you see what I mean about reward? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, Faceless said: We only do things that benefit us Psychologically, which is where the very problem arises. The self seeks a reward. Its the movement of this i that prevents one from seeing what is. Yes, it's true that everyone (including you) have preferences and desires, to some extent, otherwise why get out of bed? Go to work? Pay bills? However, desires (vasanas) can be neutralized. This doesn't mean you won't have any desires, but it means you have the option to do them, not to do them or do something all together different. Neutralizing vasanas (desires) goes hand and hand with "assimilation" of Self-knowledge. So, I'm not just pulling this out of my ass..lol. You can look it up..or not...or say I'm moving in thought. “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 No-thing gets me out of bed. That’s the beauty of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, Faceless said: No-thing gets me out of bed. That’s the beauty of it. So, your laying in bed right now? Or did some-thing you desired get you up, even if it was the desire to take a pee. Lol “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Etagnwo said: but you're another arsehole Not that I care, but these kind of contents are what I constantly receive from you. I know that other people find it offensive, and hesitate to visit this forum because of you. Even though I can't care less since you only make a fool out of yourself, I can understand what people say to me in PM's. It's not cool to call people names, arseholes or whatever. Quote Gobbledygook? You really have to consume the teachings of faceless, don't you, Only to pin him down I never bother with teachings that I don't like, what's the point? I'm here because I think Leo and Faceless are the best teachers out there. I report your bullying now, please try to behave, it will make this forum a better place for all of us, not to mention all those people who hesitate to read the threads because of your bad language. Edited June 13, 2018 by MarkusSweden Isn't it so, yes or no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Anna1 said: So, your laying in bed right now? Or did some-thing you desired get you up, even if it was the desire to take a pee. Lol Oh deer, ? Thats cute anna1 Anyways I wish you the best?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Faceless said: Oh deer, ? Thats cute anna1 Anyways I wish you the best?? Haha! Ditto. “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Faceless said: ??♂️ Since we're off topic anyways...what does this mean and how do you do it? “You don’t have problems; you are the problem.” – Swami Chinmayananda Namaste ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Anna1 said: Since we're off topic anyways...what does this mean and how do you do it? It means talk to da hand. It’s a way of saying piss off. Edited June 13, 2018 by Joseph Maynor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites