A big slap to all self-deceivers

[Faceless]

@Haumea

Time=thought/self/mechanical/fragmentation

 

 any continuity in this form can not capture wholeness/timelessness

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[Ether]

@Faceless we really got to be out of thought to fully enjoy life

[Faceless]

Just now, Ether said:

@Faceless we really got to be out of thought to fully enjoy life

Lol you got that right?

[Haumea]

Faceless:

I think I get what you're saying.

That's a frame of reference issue.

All those are brought in as a package deal within an ego state.

When you transcend the ego, you get a different frame of reference.

E.g. If there's a gross ego, there's an other, there's the world, there is fragmentation: projection, repression, etc.

All that is correct.

Then the frame slowly shifts through various stages.

I can describe the frame of reference in each state I experienced.

"Time" is annihilated when the I-thought is.

 

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[Faceless]

The amount of time one has spent to become liberated is only an indication of the approaches they have chosen. I talk to many people who say that they also have been doing this for 20-30 years yet they still don’t grasp the nature of thought which is mechanical, fragmented, limited, dualistic, and time bound. 

They ask me how I know about the nature of thought so well and I just tell them I observe myself very carefully. After a while they asked me how long I had been doing this and when I told them they couldn’t understand how that is possible. The only thing I can think is conditioning never seemed to stick that deeply and I have always been so what aware of the movement of thought and fragmentation. 

I don’t understand how others take so long to grasp this and they don’t understand how I got it so fast. 

Either way as long as we agree that fragmentation should be explored for others than we are all good right??

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[Faceless]

Others should be aware right? 

[Faceless]

Thanks for discussing this @Haumea

my only intention is for others to see the significance of this. So we can all live together in peace right

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[Haumea]

It's not exactly "the nature of thought."

It's the nature of MIND.

MIND = ego + thought.

You can have thoughts, but no "MIND", i.e. thoughts but no I-thought.

That is sahaja.

I have thoughts.

I have no I-thought.

The fragmented dualistic nature is of MIND.

It's the ego identification with thoughts that is fragmenting.

Good discussion, Faceless.

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[Faceless]

5 minutes ago, Haumea said:

It's not exactly "the nature of thought."

It's the nature of MIND.

MIND = ego + thought.

You can have thoughts, but no "MIND", i.e. thoughts but no I-thought.

That is sahaja.

I have thoughts.

I have no I-thought.

The fragmented dualistic nature is of MIND.

It's the ego identification with thoughts that is fragmenting.

Good discussion, Faceless.

Yes good discussion. 

Maybe later we can discuss from what I see that thought attributes to itself the sense of ego/ the self/ the center. 

What do you say maybe some time soon?

 

 Not now though I have to spend time with my baby boy lol.

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[Haumea]

No problem.

Sahaja literally means "co-emergent" - thoughts arise in complementary pairs simultaneously, so no fragmentation is possible.

[MofO]

@Faceless @Ether

If you are within thought. You are Mind.

If you are within Mind. You Are Open.

If we remembered you. Then we became you.

[Shanmugam]

Her full story is sad, interesting and also seen controversial: http://www.wiki-global.org/teal-swan/.. Felt like reading a novel 

[Ether]

@ShanmugamHow can you feel liberated and give opinions? If it was me, my mind would jump all over me!
 

[Neo]

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Idk she is amazingly beautiful and sexy

@egoless You could always combine a rabid online porn habit with self improvement videos. I mean, anything to save time right?