Xonas Pitfall

How do you define a relative self?

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1 hour ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

Dude, I'm just being curious, calm down xD

Ok ok. But I'm just telling you. You and Carl can fuck off with all the science you would like. It's just gonna tie you down further to the ego. Trust me. Not if you want  enlightenment.  The first thing Leo is going to teach in his retreat is basically self inquiry.  You're gonna find out what you thought you were. 

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59 minutes ago, kavaris said:

I see it like a painting yous are painting in the comments. As it transcended into more of an exploratory image based format via words.

The feeling yesterday went abstract (in my min... which is how it cut through). However, there was more of like a uh... watchamakalitz like a group effort...

Not just cause everyones on a diff pathz but specifically, from my perspective, its like, i experienced parts of @Inliytened1@Leo Gura's ideas, as a baseline for what was to be a perforation  /  And granted, later @Joseph Maynor @myself Added somethingz which then was like a diff topic i felt (or something intimately connected im not sure) but anyway thats how i mapped it out.

I say that, to allude to the sense making being very much complicated, but simple from a felt location as well. p.s. maybe i should add something bout yesterday, how i wasnt focused on the words nor their meaning... However, i was like, influenced, or gifted something, i just cant actually locate what that was exactly..

You're a crazy motherfucker but I like you. I like you a lot now.

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9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Ok ok. But I'm just telling you. You and Carl can fuck off with all the science you would like. It's just gonna tie you down further to the ego. Trust me. Not if you want  enlightenment.  The first thing Leo is going to teach in his retreat is basically self inquiry.  You're gonna find out what you thought you were. 

Notice how nobody asked.


Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

Notice how nobody asked.

You didn't ask because you want a spoonful of science. 


 

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Fundamentally I do not see a duality between the finite and afinite.  This is why I don't like the relative vs. Absolute duality entirely.

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13 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Fundamentally I do not see a duality between the finite and afinite.  This is why I don't like the relative vs. Absolute duality entirely.

What you like means nothing.  I like ice cream.


 

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8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What you like means nothing.  I like ice cream.

What I like is the finite.

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6 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

What I like is the finite.

Ahh. I'm onto you.  You can only know the finite.


 

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7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Ahh. I'm onto you.  You can only know the finite.

The afinite can be explored via awakenings.

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1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

You didn't ask because you want a spoonful of science. 

You just have a problem with autism. You come into the nerd squad preaching basketball and beerbongs.

It doesn't inherently make you less awake to be a nerd vs a jock. It's primarily a difference in preference and temperament. Unsolicited preaching on the other hand, perhaps a strong case for an inverse (🤓) awakening relationship.

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7 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

You just have a problem with autism. You come into the nerd squad preaching basketball and beerbongs.

It doesn't inherently make you less awake to be a nerd vs a jock. It's primarily a difference in preference and temperament. Unsolicited preaching on the other hand, perhaps a strong case for an inverse (🤓) awakening relationship.

You're autistic? No you're not. And if you were i wouldn't have a problem with it. Not sure where you got that from

 

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1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

You're autistic? No you're not. And if you were i wouldn't have a problem with it. Not sure where you got that from

Gen Z uses "autism" to mean anything that vaguely resembles nerd behavior. I'm diagnostically anti-autistic.


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The evaluator that asks do I like this? or do i dislike this?

These questions are asked non-verbally, deeply, constantly, all the time. Is the only things we care about

When doing logical higher thinking:  is this true? == does this feel true? == do i like this?

It's just a thing that evaluates.

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How is this post just me acting out my ego in the usual ways? Is this post just me venting and justifying my selfishness? Are the things you are posting in alignment with principles of higher consciousness and higher stages of ego development? Are you acting in a mature or immature way? Are you being selfish or selfless in your communication? Are you acting like a monkey or like a God-like being?

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I’ve also been reflecting on this lately.

I’m 24, studying IT & business and working as a tech consultant. I’ve noticed how easily I identify with my roles, ambitions, achievements, family and personal stories (very hard not to).

I like being ambitious, pursuing success and exploring life’s possibilities, because I genuinely enjoy it.

At the same time, I’m aware that underneath all these identities, there’s simply consciousness. And in the bigger picture, everything I build and identify with is temporary.

I find it challenging to strike a balance between fully engaging in life and not becoming too attached to it.

I try to develop a strong relative self without becoming too attached to it.

I actually just turned 24 and celebrated with friends and family. It made me realize that being 23, my birthday, and all those great experiences are already in the past. Even the photos are just reminders of moments that have already passed.

A reminder of how temporary everything is :)

I shared some of those moments on a recent post on my IG:

https://www.instagram.com/thevitalfred/

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I'm the Vital Fred, focused on elevating the health of mankind:

https://www.instagram.com/thevitalfred/ (on Instagram, Youtube, Threads)

My other brand, Actually Conscious (on Instagram), focuses on spirituality.

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6 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Gen Z uses "autism" to mean anything that vaguely resembles nerd behavior. I'm diagnostically anti-autistic.

Let's get nerdy. You know shodingers cat.  Cuz we can go all out.

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22 hours ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

More specifically, I'm wondering about the moment when "God consciousness," so to speak, chooses to localize, fragment, or embody itself as a particular individual, experiencing this specific identity for the 80 or so years of a human life.

On 8/11/2026 at 10:55 PM, Inliytened1 said:

 

"God consciusness" don't make choices, in fact it doesn't exist, because being conscious implies limitation. "Infinite consciousness" sound nice, but is impossible, any consciousness is finite. Being conscious implies limitation in many senses. It's very obvious that consciousness is a structure that reality takes, not the substance of reality. Consciousness is a process, and any process is finite, has a beginning and an end. 

It's difficult to be open to the fact that consciousness is not ontologically different than unconsciousness, consciousness is just a property that is possible. 

Being attached to consciousness because you are conscious is a closure. If you want to open yourself to the unlimited, you have to leave it

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9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

"God consciusness" don't make choices, in fact it doesn't exist, because being conscious implies limitation. "Infinite consciousness" sound nice, but is impossible, any consciousness is finite. Being conscious implies limitation in many senses. It's very obvious that consciousness is a structure that reality takes, not the substance of reality. Consciousness is a process, and any process is finite, has a beginning and an end. 

It's difficult to be open to the fact that consciousness is not ontologically different than unconsciousness, consciousness is just a property that is possible. 

Being attached to consciousness because you are conscious is a closure. If you want to open yourself to the unlimited, you have to leave it

Stop using AI and let's talk.


 

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25 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Stop using AI and let's talk.

@Inliytened1 If that's AI it needs to back to school. 

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When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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23 minutes ago, cetus said:

 

@Inliytened1 If that's AI it needs to back to school. 

Exactly, I didn't use even translator, and my English is very far to be perfect

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