contradictions in spiritual new age teachings that don't get addressed

[Mellowmarsh]

20 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Okay i get it, thank you,  so whatever happens it is still perfection. And ultimately the whole universe cant go off the rails so to speak, because it is God.

Off the rails is a human preference, it’s an appearance within that which has no preference and doesn’t mind what happens.

 

Even if the planet earth was blown to kingdom come thy will be done by nuclear war, that’s Gods perfection in this perfect unfolding of what is, because unfolding is already perfect in every instantaneous moment and could never be any other way than instantaneous.

[Olaf]

@Natasha Tori Maru thank you, I am onto it teacher

[cetus]

@Leo Gura I had a friend whose daughter was on the autism spectrum. And he would sometimes say, "They say God is perfect, but Shelly is proof that's not the case". And I would try and explain to him, but he just couldn't get the fact that it was only his view of Shelly was imperfect and that Shelly herself was absolutely perfect just as she was. 

[Wilhelm44]

14 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Even if the planet earth was blown to kingdom come thy will be done by nuclear war

And a blessed Friday to you too  

But I hear you, thank you.

Edited 2 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

And a blessed Thursday to you too  

But I hear you, thank you.

I know you hear. Because you are reading your own story. 

Thank you and me and all of history, his story 😉

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I know you hear. Because you are reading your own story. 

Thank you and me and all of history, his story 😉

It does get more magical doesnt it🙂

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

It does get more magical doesnt it🙂

Nope, and Jim was right all along, nothing is happening. 😉😎 That’s magic.

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Nope, and Jim was right all along, nothing is happening. 😉😎 That’s magic.

🙂💫

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, cetus said:

@Leo Gura I had a friend whose daughter was on the autism spectrum. And he would sometimes say, "They say God is perfect, but Shelly is proof that's not the case". And I would try and explain to him, but he just couldn't get the fact that it was only his view of Shelly was imperfect and that Shelly herself was absolutely perfect just as she was. 

Bias is a bitch.

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

It does get more magical doesnt it🙂

We can’t know anything has happened until it’s already happened, by that time it’s gone, it’s dead knowledge, it’s unscript that no one wrote. But knowledge on demand magically turns this unwritten present into script by virtue of knowing in its instantaneous conception one with the knowing that cannot be known.

[Wilhelm44]

9 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

We can’t know anything has happened until it’s already happened, by that time it’s gone, it’s dead knowledge, it’s unscript that no one wrote. But knowledge on demand magically turns this unwritten present into script by virtue of knowing in its instantaneous conception one with the knowing that cannot be known.

There still seems to be this interesting apparent divide between those that say it's possible to know God, and those that seem to be more in a space of complete unknowing (not knowing anything).

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[Mellowmarsh]

6 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

There still seems to be this interesting apparent divide between those that say it's possible to know God, and those that seem to be more in a space of complete unknowing.

You cannot know God because you are God. Do you see this?

[Wilhelm44]

10 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You cannot know God because you are God. Do you see this?

I hear you. (knower and known would be two) Which is why it perplexes me when some say that it is possible. 

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[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I hear you. (knower and known would be two) Which is why it perplexes me when some say that it is possible. 

It pleases me that you understand this. This is integrated understanding, as oneness has no conflict or argument with itself, except when there’s subterfuge which is just a misinterpretation where understanding can become lost in translation. Albeit illusory which is the nature of knowledge. The nature of believing you know what you know when in truth you don’t know what you know, you only know you don’t know.

[Carl-Richard]

23 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

There still seems to be this interesting apparent divide between those that say it's possible to know God, and those that seem to be more in a space of complete unknowing (not knowing anything).

No such divide in reality, only in language:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphatic_theology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophatic_theology

[Wilhelm44]

8 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

It pleases me that you understand this. This is integrated understanding, as oneness has no conflict or argument with itself, except when there’s subterfuge which is just a misinterpretation where understanding can become lost in translation. Albeit illusory which is the nature of knowledge. The nature of believing you know what you know when in truth you don’t know what you know, you only know you don’t know.

Thank you

[Salvijus]

12 hours ago, Olaf said:

All you need is the "I am" just focus on God (spiritual bypassing, no accountability for practical day to day life)

Awareness of I AM doesn't eliminate activity. It refines your activity to be in alignment with Truth. 

13 hours ago, Olaf said:

spiritual gurus: I am God, but I can't sustain myself without your donations

They're sustained by the Universal Law:

"As you give grace, so is grace given onto thee."