Almost 9/11 style terror attack

[Nivsch]

3 hours ago, Nivsch said:

I think the motivation of even the far-right in my country is not to kill Palestinians, but to annex their territories in a form of living with them in the land they percieved as first and foremost belong to them (the Jews). In Gaza the motivation of the far-right is I think to make them leave.

Of course in the edge there are Jewish terrorists and people who are more violent physically and rhetorically and more prone to actually supporting the direct and intentional killing of Arab civilians, who, I think, are less than 0.1%.

On the other hand, the spectrum of people who want to frighten Palestinians in order to deter them or make them want to leave is wider among the far-right.

Edited 5 hours ago by Nivsch

[AION]

32 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Israel has nuclear weapons

They cannot be destroyed

All they can do is reform

Others have nukes too. Turkey, Pakistan and Arabs formed the Mekka agreement. Just having nukes won't deter anybody. Israel will have to accept they are just 8 million people and just ordinary people. If they keep insisting they are the chosen people and others should bend over to them they will be whiped out because nobody in the ME is going to accept that dynamic.

[Heaven]

2 hours ago, AION said:

Others have nukes too. Turkey, Pakistan and Arabs formed the Mekka agreement. Just having nukes won't deter anybody. Israel will have to accept they are just 8 million people and just ordinary people. If they keep insisting they are the chosen people and others should bend over to them they will be whiped out because nobody in the ME is going to accept that dynamic.

Reality is saying the opposite. Your hate made you delusional to the truth. 
Israel’s economy is booming and so is their currency. Countries are still buying weapons from them and Tech.

[Basman]

19 hours ago, oOo said:

@Basman, “they just lost and got genocided” 

Most of human history btw. Genocide is the norm, not the exception when you lose an existential war. 

The notion of Native Americans as halpless victims is a political narrative central to Native American activism. And activism because war is untenable for them. Its their only viable option. They fought till they physically no longer could (plus many Americans feel bad for them). They aren't a death cult like many Palestinians are.

It's not incorrect that they are victims, but moreso in the sense of being victims of losing a war. Settlers didn't have the option of leaving and Native Americans weren't going to give up their territory. It was a conflict that could only be solved through war and genocide and the Natives simply lost. Its ugly, but that's human history in just about every country in the world. 

[Raze]

29 minutes ago, Basman said:

Most of human history btw. Genocide is the norm, not the exception when you lose an existential war. 

The notion of Native Americans as halpless victims is a political narrative central to Native American activism. And activism because war is untenable for them. Its their only viable option. They fought till they physically no longer could (plus many Americans feel bad for them). They aren't a death cult like many Palestinians are.

It's not incorrect that they are victims, but moreso in the sense of being victims of losing a war. Settlers didn't have the option of leaving and Native Americans weren't going to give up their territory. It was a conflict that could only be solved through war and genocide and the Natives simply lost. Its ugly, but that's human history in just about every country in the world. 

What you’re saying is ahistorical nonsense. There is zero evidence native Americans would have genocided the colonists, when they fist arrived multiple tribes tried to ally with them, they also had no capability to do that. 
There’s also zero reason the colonists had to commit genocide, they did it for land and wealth. The British actually originally tried to halt further expansion stating they considered it native land and colonists disagreed.
Native Americans aren’t a death cult for resisting the people killing them, a death cult would be accepting their deaths.

They are victims because the war was aggression launched against them, that would also be the case if they won.

By your logic if a burglar takes  your home and kills you when you try to stop him we should be waxing poetic about how you were a death cult and would have done the same in his shoes and that’s just history.

Edited 1 hour ago by Raze