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Is Leo Gura awake or not?

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4 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Why of non duality? If the realization is that you are god creating the reality, seems that are two, you as a god in one side, the dream in other. The intention of creating and hiding that fact in the middle 

I agree that the wording sounds like it, it's what it means literally, but I thought maybe its just his personal way of describing it when he is in his baseline state reflecting back, but in the very trip itself, its just straight up non dual (some of them, maybe during 5meo). Then he seems to have other trips that are more complex, radical altered states, phenomena appearing, with or without some self present. All that combined maybe makes him describe reality the way he does instead of just the most simple non dual way, but then if he actually means that there is that "dreaming mechanism" behind reality rather than it just being worded in profound sounding way, that I don't know. 

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– Some intelligence 

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3 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

there is that "dreaming mechanism" behind reality

Then there is something out of the reality, creating it. But then, this creator would be the reality. But that creator, to choose creating a) instead to b) would take a decision based in many factors. What those factors are? Another reality behind this second reality? And those factors would exist due some causes. Where are those causes? Another reality? 

If you follow the thread you will realize that ultimately, what is is openess, absence of limits, and this is the reality. Do you get it? Maybe yes, then you will see the absolute. It's here and now. You are that. If you see it you will say: yes. And you will open your being to the totality now and you will be it. Simple and direct, without any other possibility and without the slightest doubt. 

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5 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

You simply cannot become awakened. 

Yes you can . You can have an experience called awakening . Otherwise all of spirituality and spiritual work is scam . Even if the awakening reveals that the separate self is illusory , then that is what the awakening reveals . This is like saying there is no difference between Buddha and Hitler and that they both had the same inner experience . 


“God is the Alpha Omega .. the beginning-less  beginning and the endless end . 
He is the first without start . He is the last without end . He is the manifest actuality ..nothing covers him . He is the most hidden essence  ..nothing can grasp him .. nothing below him or more subtle than him .The ego is the belief I’m separate from god . Because being god is too good to be true .No matter how dark it gets or difficult it gets ..no matter how long it is going to take .. my destiny is the infinite happiness and infinite joy and love as the best thing ever ..God .  “

-that’s a me .

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8 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Otherwise all of spirituality and spiritual work is scam .

If this were the case, then all of us would have a regret.

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4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

If this were the case, then all of us would have a regret.

Yes . There is partial truth to what VeganAwake is saying. But still , you  must realize that there is no you . Some people don’t understand that they don’t exist .

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“God is the Alpha Omega .. the beginning-less  beginning and the endless end . 
He is the first without start . He is the last without end . He is the manifest actuality ..nothing covers him . He is the most hidden essence  ..nothing can grasp him .. nothing below him or more subtle than him .The ego is the belief I’m separate from god . Because being god is too good to be true .No matter how dark it gets or difficult it gets ..no matter how long it is going to take .. my destiny is the infinite happiness and infinite joy and love as the best thing ever ..God .  “

-that’s a me .

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