Is Insanity necessary to breakthrough to God?

[JoshB]

In some of my most massive shifts in Consciousness or Awakening, Insanity was extremely prevalent. When I realized solipsism that was insane realizing nothing outside of mind and the bathroom I was imagining I was in. When I broke through to Absolute Imagination any distinction was made Actual. Realizing I could manipulate physical "objects" through means of mind was fucking insane. Looking at another person and realizing they are me was also insane. I have noticed insanity is also relative as these no longer bother me and are fully embraced. 

What is your guy's take on insanity? Is it necessary state to go through or does it come along with this. Or is it deception. Or perhaps a dash of all?

[Yimpa]

Hi Batman.

Yep. I’ve been dipping my toes into that for the past week or so. It’s honestly overwhelming, but that’s what I signed up for. Accepting all parts of myself and realizing the Oneness of it all. Let’s keep going.

[Jehovah increases]

No, you don't have to go insane to wake up as God. But I guess one could. There are states of consciousness where you can go insane for a time.

[Someone here]

It’s not necessary to become insane to become awake or enlightened.

 But Some psychedelics are dangerous like Salvia and can fuck with your mind . 
also existential ruminating about solipsism and such can disturb your mind .

[Yimpa]

How would you define insanity?

[Joseph Maynor]

5 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

How would you define insanity?

To me insanity means you are hindered from taking care of the practical affairs of life to a greater or lesser degree.  

[Yimpa]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

To me insanity means you are hindered from taking care of the practical affairs of life to a greater or lesser degree.  

That’s a great way to put it. My very first psychedelic trip I have ever done left me completely motionless and speechless. Insane degree of consciousness, but no way possible to live life as a human that way.

Edited 18 hours ago by Yimpa

[JoshB]

52 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

How would you define insanity?

I would define it as radical breaking through of the boundaries that was held in place by consciousness. Such as going beyond human consciousness. Going from human to God is an "insane" process

what is insane for a human is sane to God

You can experience Love, Intelligence, Consciousness, Being, etc so high it's insane under human conditions 

Edited 17 hours ago by JoshB

[JoshB]

51 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

To me insanity means you are hindered from taking care of the practical affairs of life to a greater or lesser degree.  

You could enter a state where there are ZERO practical affairs 

If you deconstruct survival completely you would realize this.

Edited 17 hours ago by JoshB

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, JoshB said:

You could enter a state where there are ZERO practical affairs 

If you deconstruct survival completely you would realize this.

Been there done that!

[JoshB]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

Been there done that!

Then what point are you trying to make?

[Joseph Maynor]

12 minutes ago, JoshB said:

Then what point are you trying to make?

I thought I was pretty clear.  Maybe not.  It depends.  

[JoshB]

If you realized a cartoon or video game universe holds just as much reality as the dream you currently inhibit that would be pretty insane 

[Joseph Maynor]

16 minutes ago, JoshB said:

If you realized a cartoon or video game universe holds just as much reality as the dream you currently inhibit that would be pretty insane 

That's what happens lol.  

[Willy Phallicus]

For myself, the insanity part is on the way up until I breakthrough to the Godhead and get beyond the ego.  After that its pretty chill, although I say and experience things that other people would find insane.

You said it feels insane to look at another person and realize they are you.  Have you ever tried having a conversation with someone when in that state?

[Leo Gura]

That's not really insanity, that's trans-human-sanity.

You are going beyond human sanity, which is just an island in the Ocean of Consciousness.

Edited 14 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Yimpa]

It’s insane that my medicine is legal. This shit is too good and needs to be illegal.

[kavaris]

First i like to just start on the ground. As 'Dirt boy, poopy boy; By saying, how God, from religious paradigms, it has nothing to do w/ God realization, the stuff we're always on about, And thats sortve the first hump in communicating anything, because, to talk about god, or to ask about god or to worship god, those are all the same thing in the religious sense, as well as in their most fundamental of ways on Earth Earth... God realization is none of those things...

Then the next thing to say is like, theres like pains of insanity, that dont have anything to do with "mind" or "physical body" that exist within the ethereal being, such that you have a new idea behind what constitutes "pleasure" and "insanity" and "to realize" because insanity is a thing that can extend infinitely in areas that you previously had thought of as sensuous arenas (or even, that you hadnt considered as part of the sensuous one), or to be like "Ah i feel anxiety and pain" or "Ah i feel like this is a state of mind" And all those things are intertwined, alas the ethereal has new categories of things... Its not strictly Aristotle's Category categories / but its a word, a feeling and a category ("of some kind of...")

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[JoshB]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's not really insanity, that's trans-human-sanity.

You are going beyond human sanity, which is just an island in the Ocean of Consciousness.

Then how would you define insanity?

And if the average human realized a lot of this stuff off rip they would go insane

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, JoshB said:

Then how would you define insanity?

If you were in insanity you could not function. You would be hospitalized.

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And if the average human realized a lot of this stuff off rip they would go insane

They would feel that way at times, but just cause it feels insane doesn't mean it is insane.

The ego is scared of insanity even more than death. So the ego loves to fear-monger to itself about insanity. It is like when you have a flu and you think you are dying. You are not really dying, but the ego fears it so much that it believes it.

Of course a few people could literally go insane, but this is very rare. There is a way to do this without becoming dysfunctional and delusional.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura